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[[{{PAGENAME}}/Lexicon|{{PAGENAME}}-English lexicon]]<br/>
[[{{PAGENAME}}/Swadesh list|Swadesh list]]<br/>
{{Infobox language
|creator = User:IlL
|setting = [[Verse:Tricin]]
|name = {{PAGENAME}}
|nativename = θensārimai
|pronunciation=  θensaːrimai
|nation = Talma
|extinct = 220 v.T.
|familycolor=PfK
|fam1= [[Quame languages|Quame]]
|fam2= [[Talmic languages|Talmic]]
|fam3= Thensaric
|clcr=qth
|notice=IPA
}}
'''{{PAGENAME}}''' (''gaθwai θensārimai'') is an ancient Talmic language and the ancestor of most living [[Talmic languages]], including [[Skellan]], [[Anbirese]], [[Nurian]] and [[Qazhrian]]. It is inspired by Proto-Celtic, Latin, High Valyrian, and Welsh. Important texts in Thensarian include the ''Avoranloeδūn'' (tentative, from avor-an-loeδ- meaning "comprehensively gather"; the collection did NOT originally have a name, the name was given by later Talman religious operatives), a collection of various texts such as ancient Talmic prose myths, wisdom literature, poetry and early scientific texts, and a seminal text for modern Talman religions.
==Todo==
*Make Proto-Talmic > Thensarian vowel changes mirror Pre-Celtic > Proto-Celtic changes
*Antraδēs = a place name
*''lugoboe'' 'land'
**OEevo ''luġaḃ''
***Eevo ''luav''
**Nurian ''lugabui''
*What to do with PTal ou and ō?
*nocterae = chain (got it by interpreting Noether as Welsh)
*''Andaegōr'' = 'sun's perch'
*More u's - often gets umlauted in daughters
*Fossilized aspect distinctions for stative verbs vs active verbs
**hear vs. listen
**see vs. look
**seek vs. find - som for seek, ___ for find?
*Δokletom = a name?
*Accusative case
==Background==
:''See also: [[Talmic languages]].''
==Phonology==
===Consonants===
{{PAGENAME}} used 17 consonants.
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width:700px;text-align:center;"
! colspan="2" |
!  |Labial
!  |Dental
!  |Alveolar
!  |Palatal
!  |Velar
!  |Radical
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Nasal
| '''m''' /m/
|colspan="2"| '''n''' /n/
|
| [ŋ]
|
|-
! rowspan="2" |Plosive
! |<small>voiceless</small>
|
| '''θ''' /t̪~θ/
| '''t''' /t/
|
| '''k''' /k/
| '''ȝ''' /ʡ~ɴ̆/
|-
! |<small>voiced</small>
| '''b''' /b/
| '''δ''' /d̪~ð/
| '''d''' /d/
|
| '''g''' /g/
|
|-
! rowspan="2" style="" |Fricative
! |<small>voiceless</small>
| '''φ''' /φ~h/
|
| '''s''' /s/
|
|
| '''ħ''' /χ/
|-
! |<small>voiced</small>
|
|
| [z]
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Trill
|
|
| '''r''' /r/
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Approximant
| '''w''' /w/
| '''l''' /l/
|
| '''j''' /j/
|
|
|}
;Notes
*Voiceless plosives /p t k/ are lightly aspirated in syllable onsets but are unaspirated after /s/. They're always unaspirated in certain areas.
*[ŋ] occurs as an allophone of /n/ before velars /k, g/.
*/r/ is an alveolar trill [r] or tap [ɾ].
*/l/ is dental [l̪].
*[z] occurs as an allophone of /s/ in /sb, sd, sg/.
*/ʕ/ is either a radical plosive [ʡ] or a uvular nasal flap [ɴ̆]. The first realization is more common word-initially.
===Vowels===
{{PAGENAME}} had the following monophthongs:
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width: 540px; text-align:center;"
! rowspan="2" style="width: 90px; "|
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Front
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Central
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Back
|-
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
|-
! style="" |Close
| '''i''' /i/
| '''ī''' /iː/
|
|
| '''u''' /u/
| '''ū''' /uː/
|-
! style="" |Mid
| '''e''' /ɛ/
| '''ē''' /eː/
|
|
| '''o''' /ɔ/
| '''ō''' /oː/
|-
! style="" |Open
|
|
| '''a''' /a/
| '''ā''' /aː/
|
|
|}
The diphthongs are '''ae ao ei eo iu oe ou ui'''.
===Stress===
Stress is word-initial, ignoring some unstressed prefixes such as pronominal object prefixes.
===Phonotactics===
====Some allowed clusters====
*R = resonant X = obstruent
*Clusters allowed word-initially are in '''bold'''.
=====Geminates=====
*''mm nn ll rr φφ tt kk ss θθ''
=====RR=====
*'''''mn mr''' nl nw lm ln lw rl rm rn rw '''wl wr'''''
=====RX=====
*''mφ ms nt nθ ns nc nħ''
*''mb nd nδ ng nȝ''
*''lφ lb lt ld ls lk lg lȝ lħ''
*''rφ rb rt rd rs rθ rδ rk rg rȝ rħ''
=====XR=====
*'''''φn bn tn θn kn gn ȝn ħn'''''
*'''''sm sn sl sr sw'''''
*'''''φl bl tl dl kl gl ȝl ħl'''''
*'''''φr br tr dr θr δr kr gr ȝr ħr'''''
=====XX=====
*'''''sφ st sc sȝ''' sb sd sg''
*''ks kt ħs ħt''
=====XXR=====
*'''''sφl sφr str skl scr sȝl sȝr'''''
==Orthography==
Alphabetical order: '''R D I A Ħ Φ L M G K B S V O J Ȝ Δ T N Θ E U'''
==Morphology==
:''Main article: [[Thensarian/Morphology]]''
==Syntax==
Like many of its descendants, Thensarian is almost completely head-initial (except for compounds).
===Constituent order===
===Noun phrase===
===Verb phrase===
===Sentence phrase===
===Dependent clauses===
''Sequences of tenses'' are important in Thensarian grammar. The mood of a verb sometimes serves the same functions of subordinating conjunctions in English such as ''if''. Sometimes it is erroneously said that Thensarian has no word for ''if''; conjunctions meaning "if" exist (''φīs'', etc.) but they are not mandatory.
==Example texts==
*Early Thensarian: ''Stamāber (-bris) glādōm gnowilatlom'' = The gods accepted the sacrifice.
*Primitive Tigol: ''Φēswrostamāber glāduom gnowilatlom''
==Other resources==
[[Category:Languages]][[Category:Languages]][[Category:A priori]][[Category:Talmic languages]][[Category:Quihum languages]][[Category:{{PAGENAME}}|*]][[Category:Tricin]]

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