Proto-Ash-Ish - Revision history

Prinsessa: /* Reduplication */ -er, not -ar

2023-08-08T12:57:23Z

Reduplication: -er, not -ar

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	! colspan="2" \| Ish		! colspan="2" \| Ish
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{ash\|*kaw~kaw(-ar)}}		\| {{ash\|*kaw~kaw(-er)}}
	\| "whirl, swirl, whorl, cycle, wrap"		\| "whirl, swirl, whorl, cycle, wrap"
	\| → *ku~kwa: → {{ash\|goa}}		\| → *ku~kwa: → {{ash\|goa}}

Prinsessa: /* Syntax */ Avoiding repetition

2023-08-08T12:54:30Z

Syntax: Avoiding repetition

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	===Syntax===		===Syntax===

	Thanks to the grammatical cases word order was probably somewhat free in PAI, reflected by the resulting differences ~~in word order~~ in the daughter branches as they solidified their own word order in different ways as the case endings collapsed. Ash settled on auxiliary-noun-verb whereas Ish settled on verb-auxiliary-noun.		Thanks to the grammatical cases word order was probably somewhat free in PAI, reflected by the resulting differences in the daughter branches as they solidified their own word order in different ways as the case endings collapsed. Ash settled on auxiliary-noun-verb whereas Ish settled on verb-auxiliary-noun.

	The auxiliary verbs appear to have been used with a kind of participle ending in {{ash\|*-er}}.		The auxiliary verbs appear to have been used with a kind of participle ending in {{ash\|*-er}}.

Prinsessa: /* Consonants */ develops => developed

2023-08-08T12:50:26Z

Consonants: develops => developed

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	Here a big difference from modern Ish is the presence of a nasal consonant whereas Ish has transferred nasality as a feature onto its vowels, losing the consonant in the process.		Here a big difference from modern Ish is the presence of a nasal consonant whereas Ish has transferred nasality as a feature onto its vowels, losing the consonant in the process.

	* As in Proto-Ash, it is unclear exactly what {{ash\|q}} was. It merged with {{ash\|k}} in Ish so may have been a uvular plosive but in Ash it ~~develops~~ into a glottal.		* As in Proto-Ash, it is unclear exactly what {{ash\|q}} was. It merged with {{ash\|k}} in Ish so may have been a uvular plosive but in Ash it developed into a glottal.
	* The nasal {{ash\|*n}} likely assimilated the point of articulation of any other consonant in a cluster.		* The nasal {{ash\|*n}} likely assimilated the point of articulation of any other consonant in a cluster.
	* The approximant {{ash\|w}} was probably {{IPA\|/ɰ/}} as in Ish.		* The approximant {{ash\|w}} was probably {{IPA\|/ɰ/}} as in Ish.

Prinsessa: culture => cultures

2023-08-08T12:43:53Z

culture => cultures

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	'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].		'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].

	The PAI speakers would have lived in a mountainous area during a period of glaciation which forced them to seek new lands. Those who would become speakers of Ish left the mountains altogether and found a temperate climate where the sea was not frozen over and became skilled sailors. Those who would go on to speak Ash delved further into the mountains, finding oases of heat in geologically active areas and came to worship the dual nature of fire. Eventually the ice age subsided and perhaps following volcanic eruptions they followed in the footsteps of their long lost kin and arrived at the ocean which now reached much further inland. This is where the two groups would eventually meet again and new ~~culture~~ combining the old with the new would develop.		The PAI speakers would have lived in a mountainous area during a period of glaciation which forced them to seek new lands. Those who would become speakers of Ish left the mountains altogether and found a temperate climate where the sea was not frozen over and became skilled sailors. Those who would go on to speak Ash delved further into the mountains, finding oases of heat in geologically active areas and came to worship the dual nature of fire. Eventually the ice age subsided and perhaps following volcanic eruptions they followed in the footsteps of their long lost kin and arrived at the ocean which now reached much further inland. This is where the two groups would eventually meet again and new cultures combining the old with the new would develop.

	==Phonology==		==Phonology==

Prinsessa: their => the

2023-08-08T12:43:02Z

their => the

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	'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].		'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].

	~~Their~~ PAI speakers would have lived in a mountainous area during a period of glaciation which forced them to seek new lands. Those who would become speakers of Ish left the mountains altogether and found a temperate climate where the sea was not frozen over and became skilled sailors. Those who would go on to speak Ash delved further into the mountains, finding oases of heat in geologically active areas and came to worship the dual nature of fire. Eventually the ice age subsided and perhaps following volcanic eruptions they followed in the footsteps of their long lost kin and arrived at the ocean which now reached much further inland. This is where the two groups would eventually meet again and new culture combining the old with the new would develop.		The PAI speakers would have lived in a mountainous area during a period of glaciation which forced them to seek new lands. Those who would become speakers of Ish left the mountains altogether and found a temperate climate where the sea was not frozen over and became skilled sailors. Those who would go on to speak Ash delved further into the mountains, finding oases of heat in geologically active areas and came to worship the dual nature of fire. Eventually the ice age subsided and perhaps following volcanic eruptions they followed in the footsteps of their long lost kin and arrived at the ocean which now reached much further inland. This is where the two groups would eventually meet again and new culture combining the old with the new would develop.

	==Phonology==		==Phonology==

Prinsessa at 12:42, 8 August 2023

2023-08-08T12:42:50Z

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	<templatestyles src="AshStyle/style.css" />		<templatestyles src="AshStyle/style.css" />
	'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].		'''Proto-Ash-Ish''' (henceforth referred to as PAI) is the reconstructed protolanguage linking the [[Ash]] and [[Ish]] languages through their own respective protolanguages, [[Proto-Ash]] and [[Proto-Ish]].

			Their PAI speakers would have lived in a mountainous area during a period of glaciation which forced them to seek new lands. Those who would become speakers of Ish left the mountains altogether and found a temperate climate where the sea was not frozen over and became skilled sailors. Those who would go on to speak Ash delved further into the mountains, finding oases of heat in geologically active areas and came to worship the dual nature of fire. Eventually the ice age subsided and perhaps following volcanic eruptions they followed in the footsteps of their long lost kin and arrived at the ocean which now reached much further inland. This is where the two groups would eventually meet again and new culture combining the old with the new would develop.

	==Phonology==		==Phonology==

Prinsessa: /* Laryngeal and rhotic colouring */ Ish: nose, smell

2023-08-08T12:14:02Z

Laryngeal and rhotic colouring: Ish: nose, smell

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	\| "nose"		\| "nose"
	\| → {{ash\|nẽdẽ /DẽDẽ/}}		\| → {{ash\|nẽdẽ /DẽDẽ/}}
	\| "nose"		\| "nose, smell"
	\|}		\|}

Prinsessa: /* Vocabulary */ -er, not -ar

2023-08-08T12:12:41Z

Vocabulary: -er, not -ar

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	\| "bad"		\| "bad"
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{ash\|*taw(-ar)-}}		\| {{ash\|*taw(-er)-}}
	\| "stand"		\| "stand"
	\| → {{ash\|*twa:}} → {{ash\|laa}}		\| → {{ash\|*twa:}} → {{ash\|laa}}

Prinsessa: .ash-column

2023-08-08T12:04:10Z

.ash-column

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	A sentence in PAI may thus have looked as follows:		A sentence in PAI may thus have looked as follows:

	<div ~~style~~="~~float: left~~">		<div class="ash-columns">
			<div class="ash-column">
	{{gloss		{{gloss
	\|phrase={{ash\|*ntaw qeka te kaw-er}}		\|phrase={{ash\|*ntaw qeka te kaw-er}}
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	}}		}}
	</div>		</div>
	<div ~~style~~="~~float: left~~">		<div class="ash-column">
	{{gloss		{{gloss
	\|phrase={{ash\|*kaw-er qeka te ntaw}}		\|phrase={{ash\|*kaw-er qeka te ntaw}}
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	}}		}}
	</div>		</div>
	~~<div style="clear: both">~~</div>		</div>

	It seems Ash preferred the first syntax while Ish settled on the second. The corresponding sentences in their own protolanguages would have been something like the following:		It seems Ash preferred the first syntax while Ish settled on the second. The corresponding sentences in their own protolanguages would have been something like the following:

Prinsessa: /* Syntax */

2023-08-05T21:12:13Z

Syntax

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	}}		}}

	The order of the referents and the participle were free to move around:		The order of the referents and the participle were probably free to move around:

	{{gloss		{{gloss