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Ceige: Made a sexy blue sortable table and got rid of the template table.

2014-11-07T13:49:31Z

Made a sexy blue sortable table and got rid of the template table.

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 | って、　と言う<sup>JP</sup>
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Ceige: /* Particles */

2014-11-07T13:47:07Z

Particles

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	===Particles===		===Particles===
	The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.		The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.
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Ceige: /* Particles */

2014-11-07T13:45:17Z

Particles

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 ===Particles===
 The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.
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Ceige: /* Particles */

2014-11-07T13:26:36Z

Particles

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	! style="width: 250px; " \|Other language Equivalent		! style="width: 250px; " \|Other language Equivalent
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Topical		! style="" \| Topical (also Mirative)
	\| vä		\| vä
	\| va		\| va
	\| Topic particle		\| Topic particle. Homophone of the mirative, which is for expressing surprise and admiration.
	\| は<sup>JP</sup>		\| は<sup>JP</sup>
	\|-		\|-
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	\| の、な<sup>JP</sup>		\| の、な<sup>JP</sup>
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Genitive-Emphatic		! style="" \| Genitive (also Emphatic)
	\| nö		\| nö
	\| no		\| no
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	\|　で<sup>JP</sup>, -de<sup>TR</sup>		\|　で<sup>JP</sup>, -de<sup>TR</sup>
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| mo		! style="" \| Additive
	\| mö		\| mö
	\| mo		\| mo
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	\| で、に<sup>JP</sup>, -lla <sup>FI</sup>, -yle <sup>TR</sup>		\| で、に<sup>JP</sup>, -lla <sup>FI</sup>, -yle <sup>TR</sup>
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| ~~Locative-Dative-Benefactive~~		! style="" \| Terminative
	\| ni		\| ni
	\| ni		\| ni
	\| Indicates destination, goal, or ~~intention~~		\| Indicates destination, goal, intention or location.
	\| に <sup>JP</sup>		\| に <sup>JP</sup>
	\|-		\|-
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	\| と <sup>JP</sup>		\| と <sup>JP</sup>
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Exessive-~~Elative~~		! style="" \| Exessive-Ablative
	\| lö		\| lö
	\| lo		\| lo
	\| "and then", "after that", "from there"		\| "and then", "after that", "from there"
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Nominaliser-Conjunctive		! style="" \| Nominaliser (also Conjunctive)
	\| kä		\| kä
	\| ka		\| ka
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	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| ~~Infidelic-Increditive-Hesitative~~		! style="" \| Dubitative
	\| nü		\| nü
	\| nu		\| nu
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	\| ん<sup>JP</sup>		\| ん<sup>JP</sup>
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Pensitive		! style="" \| Pensitive-Deliberative
	\| mü		\| mü
	\| mu		\| mu

Ceige: Fixed mah table

2014-11-07T13:13:21Z

Fixed mah table

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	The '''core''' vowels in their traditional groupings:		The '''core''' vowels in their traditional groupings:
	[[File:Crescentvowels2.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Crescent Vowel diagram showing the realisation of the vowels affected by vowel harmony.]]		[[File:Crescentvowels2.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Crescent Vowel diagram showing the realisation of the vowels affected by vowel harmony.]]
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	==Grammar==		==Grammar==
			==Nouns==
			Nouns may form the plural with -i (occasionally written -j), which is a fusion of two historical suffixes. The first being ''-ʔi'', which can be thought of as a verbal shorthand for reduplication, and the second is ''-ñ-'', which referred to collectives. The two ended up merging.

			Cases and other particles adjoin to the end of the noun, ''after'' the plural marker.

			Words ending with ''-i'' will end up with ''-ei''.
	===Particles===		===Particles===
	The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.		The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.
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	! style="width: ~~68px~~; "\|		! style="width: 50px; "\|
	! style="width: ~~68px~~; " \|Front~~-vowel~~ Form		! style="width: 50px; " \|Front Form
	! style="width: ~~68px~~; " \|Back~~-vowel~~ Form		! style="width: 50px; " \|Back Form
	! style="width: ~~68px~~; " \|English Equivalent		! style="width: 250px; " \|English Equivalent
	! style="width: ~~68px~~; " \|Other language Equivalent		! style="width: 250px; " \|Other language Equivalent
	\|-		\|-
	! style="" \| Topical		! style="" \| Topical

Ceige: Added particles

2014-11-07T12:53:46Z

Added particles

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	The shape of vowels that aren't e/i (which are considered additional epenthetic vowels) has been referred to as ''crescent shaped''. This is because of how they are realised (see diagram).		The shape of vowels that aren't e/i (which are considered additional epenthetic vowels) has been referred to as ''crescent shaped''. This is because of how they are realised (see diagram).

			==Grammar==
			===Particles===
			The following particles are used in noun and verb<sup>[hmmm...]</sup> phrases. They represent noun case and verbal mood, quite often, as well as having various conjunctive roles.
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			! style="width: 68px; "\|
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Front-vowel Form
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Back-vowel Form
			! style="width: 68px; " \|English Equivalent
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Other language Equivalent
			\|-
			! style="" \| Topical
			\| vä
			\| va
			\| Topic particle
			\| は<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Accusative
			\| mä
			\| ma
			\| Direct Object
			\|　を<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Genitive
			\| nä
			\| na
			\| -'s
			\| の、な<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Genitive-Emphatic
			\| nö
			\| no
			\| Functions like the genitive, also as an emphatic particle
			\| の、な<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Locative~Essive
			\| ðä
			\| ða
			\| Indicates the existence of something (in relation to another thing's position)
			\|　で<sup>JP</sup>, -de<sup>TR</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| mo
			\| mö
			\| mo
			\| too, also
			\|　も<sup>JP</sup>, 도 <sup>KO</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Approximative
			\| pi
			\| pi
			\| towards, about, almost, roughly
			\|　Not to be confused with Komi -лaнь
			\|-
			! style="" \| Allative-Translative
			\| vi
			\| vi
			\| Indicates direction, heading, path
			\|　''Almost'' equivalent to へ<sup>JP</sup>, -way <sup>EN</sup>. Also used to make adjectives.
			\|-
			! style="" \| Locative-Instrumental
			\| mi
			\| mi
			\| Indicates location, but also methods - "by"
			\| で、に<sup>JP</sup>, -lla <sup>FI</sup>, -yle <sup>TR</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Locative-Dative-Benefactive
			\| ni
			\| ni
			\| Indicates destination, goal, or intention
			\| に <sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Comitative
			\| tö
			\| to
			\| "and, with", also used for quotes
			\| と <sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Exessive-Elative
			\| lö
			\| lo
			\| "and then", "after that", "from there"
			\|-
			! style="" \| Nominaliser-Conjunctive
			\| kä
			\| ka
			\| Makes the phrase act like a noun, but also can be used as if it has a conjunction with it
			\| と、って、の<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Adverbal
			\| kü
			\| ku
			\| Treats the phrase like a nominal turned into an adverb <!--Yeah that's a bit silly a description-->
			\|
			\|-
			! style="" \| Infidelic-Increditive-Hesitative
			\| nü
			\| nu
			\| Indicates belief from the speaker that something is unlikely, or that they're not sure about something regarding it.
			\| ん<sup>JP</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Pensitive
			\| mü
			\| mu
			\| Indicates that the speaker is considering or thinking about something. Also the "um" word.
			\|
			\|-
			! style="" \| Comitative-Adjectival/Aggregational
			\| lü
			\| lu
			\| "con-, with". Often used in an adjectival sense. E.g. coffee ''with milk''.
			\| -li<sup>TR</sup>
			\|-
			! style="" \| Emphatic-Finalitive
			\| lä
			\| la
			\| Emphasises that something is the way it is
			\|
			\|-
			! style="" \| Quotational
			\| jü
			\| ju
			\| Used in quotes, equivalent to "it says..."
			\| って、　と言う<sup>JP</sup>
			\|}

Ceige: Added vowel shiz

2014-11-07T12:03:17Z

Added vowel shiz

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	Essentially, the differences between older forms of the language and newer forms is that the newer forms avoid any and all clusters by making them geminated consonants.		Essentially, the differences between older forms of the language and newer forms is that the newer forms avoid any and all clusters by making them geminated consonants.

			===Vowels===
			The '''core''' vowels in their traditional groupings:
			[[File:Crescentvowels2.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Crescent Vowel diagram showing the realisation of the vowels affected by vowel harmony.]]
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			! style="width: 68px; "\|
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Front
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Near Front
			! style="width: 68px; " \|Back
			\|-
			! style="" \|Close
			\| i
			\| ü
			\| u
			\|-
			! style="" \|Mid
			\| e
			\| ö
			\| o
			\|-
			! style="" \|Open
			\|
			\| ä
			\| a
			\|}

			The shape of vowels that aren't e/i (which are considered additional epenthetic vowels) has been referred to as ''crescent shaped''. This is because of how they are realised (see diagram).

Ceige at 11:23, 7 November 2014

2014-11-07T11:23:58Z

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	<~~super~~>The single lateral counts as everything ''but'' labial</~~super~~>		<sup>The single lateral counts as everything ''but'' labial</sup>

	====Notes for the older form of the language====		====Notes for the older form of the language====

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2014-11-07T11:21:24Z

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==Phonology==
===Consonants===
The consonants are grouped into their traditional classifications.
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width: 660px; text-align:center;"
! style="width: 68px; "|
! style="width: 68px; " |Labial
! style="width: 68px; " |Dental
! style="width: 68px; " |Palatal
! style="width: 68px; " |Velar
! style="width: 68px; " |Glottal
|-
! style="" |Plosive
| p
| t
| s
| k
| ʔ
|-
! style="" |Fricative
| v
| ð
| z
| g
|
|-
! style="" |Sonorant
| m
| n
| j
|
|
|-
! style="" |Lateral
|
| l
|
|
|
|}
<super>The single lateral counts as everything ''but'' labial</super>

====Notes for the older form of the language====
''On assimilation where clusters arise...''
* Any two plosives that come in contact result in a geminated version of the second plosive.
:* ''akta'' > ''atta''
:* ''atpa'' > ''appa''
:* ''aʔka'' > ''akka'' &c.
* Any two fricatives that some in contact result in a geminated version of the second one's corresponding plosive.
:* ''aðga'' > ''akka''
:* ''avða'' > ''atta'' &c.
* Any plosive or fricative that comes before a '''nasal''' will result in its gemination.
:* ''apna'' > ''anna''
:: ''but''
:* ''apja'' = ''apja'' (while ''aja'' appears dialectally, it is not part of the most achaic level of the language)
* Any fricative that comes after a '''nasal''' will be converted to a plosive.
:* ''anða'' > ''anta''
:: Furthermore, the nasal will match the traditional place of articulation ('''TPOA''') of the plosive, even if it means becoming denasalised.
::* ''anza'' > ''ajsa'' (this is largely historical).
* Where two non-sonorant (sonorant excl. laterals) consonants of the same '''TPOA''' come in contact, it tends to result in the gemination of the second consonant. For this, the lateral counts as
:* ''aðta'' > ''atta''
:* ''atla'' > ''alla''
:: ''but''
:* ''apla'' = ''apla''
:: There is one '''exception''': L can precede any consonant (although historically it shifts to J before S)
::* ''alta'' = ''alta''

====Notes for the speech of (X LARGE AND NEW) group====
''On assimilation where clusters arise...''
* Plosives with plosives, fricatives with fricatives, etc et al, form geminates
:* ''atka'' > ''akka''
:* ''aðpa'' > ''appa''
* Anything next to a nasal forms a nasal geminate (''not in the older form'')
:* ''amna'' > ''anna''
:* ''anta'' > ''anna''
* All dentals next to a lateral form a lateral geminate (''not in the older form'')
:* ''alka'' > ''alla''
:* ''alna'' > ''alla''
* Remaining laterals are absorbed into geminates if at the front, and vice versa.
:* ''alma'' > ''amma''
:* ''amla'' > ''alla''
:* ''apla'' > ''alla''
:* ''alka'' > ''akka''
:* ''alsa'' > ''assa'' &c.
:: For fricatives, this can result in the lateral being dropped, or the same as above.
::* ''alga'' > ''aga'', ''akka'' (These are called "dissonant gradation pairs").

Essentially, the differences between older forms of the language and newer forms is that the newer forms avoid any and all clusters by making them geminated consonants.