User:Praimhín/Tamizh - Revision history

Praimhín at 09:44, 26 July 2022

2022-07-26T09:44:46Z

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	A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs		A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs as well as diachronic Dravidian ones

	==Kyravar Mazhi revamped==		==Kyravar Mazhi revamped==

Praimhín: /* Kyravar Mazhi revamped */

2021-09-17T17:56:36Z

Kyravar Mazhi revamped

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	Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund		Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund

	Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh"		Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh" through some kind of Czech ř-like sound (which can be dialectal)

	mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?		mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?

Praimhín: /* Kyravar Mazhi */

2021-09-17T17:55:24Z

Kyravar Mazhi

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	A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs		A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs

	==Kyravar Mazhi==		==Kyravar Mazhi revamped==
	Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund		Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund

	Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh"		Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh"

	mãzhã "rain"		mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?

Praimhín: /* Kyravar Mazhi */

2021-09-17T17:53:57Z

Kyravar Mazhi

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	Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become "zh"		Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh"

			mãzhã "rain"

Praimhín: /* Kyravar Mazhi */

2021-09-17T17:53:20Z

Kyravar Mazhi

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	==Kyravar Mazhi==		==Kyravar Mazhi==
			Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund

			Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become "zh"

Praimhín at 17:51, 17 September 2021

2021-09-17T17:51:09Z

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		A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs

		==Kyravar Mazhi==

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2020-02-05T04:10:51Z

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2020-02-05T04:10:14Z

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	~~'''Tamizh''', a.k.a. '''Indian Mixolydian''', is an Indo-European language spoken in [[Lõis]].~~
	~~=Todo=~~
	~~rename and make it a Mixolydian language?~~

	~~<!--Conjugation of "to carry":~~
	~~<poem>~~
	~~peruva, peruvar, peruva, peruvóm, peruvai, peruven = future/habitual tense inflection~~
	~~perutti, peruttir, perutti, peruttóm, peruttai, perutten = past tense inflection~~
	~~perukir, perukir, perukir, perukiróm, perukirai, perukiren = present tense inflection~~

	~~needs more TAM suffixes~~
	~~</poem>~~

	~~kuzhai = hill~~

	~~ót(u)- = to run (from h₃ed- semantically drifted from 'hate')~~

	~~h2er-t- 'order' (c.f. sanskrit ṛta, avestan arta) -> ārþ 'time' -> -árt (when) (like how clofabosin got sertib) -> -ál (if) (e.g. peruttál = if (someone) carried)~~

	~~ariþ 'time'~~

	~~límai 'lake'~~

	~~aittru 'bear' (the animal)~~

	~~toru 'house' (from *dóru 'wood' -> 'timber' -> 'house')~~

	~~virat 'root'~~

	~~þintu 'string'~~

	~~tí 'fire' (from *dyéws 'sky' -> 'sun' -> 'fire')~~

	~~kém 'ice' (from *ǵʰyems)~~

	~~stáva, státti, stákir 'stand'~~

	~~kwinsuva, kwinsutti, kwinsukir 'wander' (from *gʷem 'come/go' + -sḱe durative)~~

	~~poríva, porítti, poríkir 'give' (from *bʰoreyeti)~~

	~~firsuva, firsutti, firsukir 'deny' (from *pṛsḱe- 'ask' -> 'suspect' -> 'deny')~~

	~~veippa, veitti, veikkir 'know' (from *weyd)~~

	~~Vrippa, Vritti, Vrikkir 'believe' (to decide on V; from *ḱred-dʰeh3 'believe' -> hret- -> Vrit-, with the dʰeh3 reinterpreted as a perfective marker)~~

	~~alispa, alisti, aliskir 'protect' (from *h₂léḱseti); ''aliskiren'' means "they are protecting"~~

	~~orukíva, orukítti, orukíkir 'pull' (from *h₃roǵéyeti 'straighten' -> 'stretch' -> 'pull')~~

	~~-mṇ -> -men -> -me -> -mai (abstract noun)~~
	~~-->~~

	~~=Plan=~~

	~~(to revise)~~

	~~In the first stage, verbs develop aspect marking by suffixing -dheh3 and -bhuh2 (the first is perfective and the second imperfective, much like Welsh uses gwneud and bod).~~

	In the second stage, the imperfective and perfective aspects turn into nonpast and past tenses, like what happened in Israeli Hebrew and Arabic. Erosion turns the suffixes into -v-/-pp-/-p- and -nt-/-tt-/-t- respectively (through Grimm-like sound changes: dh -> d -> t while old t -> þ; the nasal in -nt- comes from PIE verbs where -nu- is infixed in the present tense).

	In the last stage, a new present tense is innovated from a combination of gʰi- and kʷel 'to turn', which gets morphed into a suffix -kir- (by a somewhat Persian-like sound change: l -> r, rd/rt -> l. and old rH and lH -> zh) Meanwhile, the old nonpast is used for both the habitual present and the future tense. Verbs analogically level into 7 classes with variations.

	~~The syntax gets more head-final and agglutinative as it evolves (and grammatical gender gets correlated with lexical gender), and the modern form is practically Altaic.~~

	~~=Phonology=~~
	~~PIE t t’ d -> "Mainstream PIE" t d dʰ -> Proto-Mixolydian tʰ d t -> Proto-Indian Mixolydian *t d t -> t ð t~~

	~~fully tentum~~

	~~avyō yōs tesrai vilnō ne est, etvą̄s vaide, smą girvą vatą vetentį, smą mēdą parą; tu smą nērą ātu perentį.~~

	~~=Grammar=~~

	~~-kki / -kku = dative case (from PIE *ǵʰes- 'hand')~~
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	~~[[Category:Languages]]~~

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2020-02-03T01:44:18Z

Phonology

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	avyō yōs ~~kesrai~~ vilnō ne est, etvą̄s vaide, smą girvą vatą vetentį, smą mēdą parą; tu smą nērą ātu perentį.		avyō yōs tesrai vilnō ne est, etvą̄s vaide, smą girvą vatą vetentį, smą mēdą parą; tu smą nērą ātu perentį.

	=Grammar=		=Grammar=