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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' (''i | '''{{PAGENAME}}''' (''i γgaaħ hAnvirav'' /i ɣaːħ ˈhanviɾəv/) is a [[Talmic languages|Talmic language]] (in the subbranch of Tigolic, which also includes [[Eevo]]) somewhat inspired by Irish. On the planet of [[Verse:Tricin|Tricin]] ({{PAGENAME}}: ''i Samoaχ'' /i səˈmɔːx/), it is an analogue of German in terms of influence and grammar. {{PAGENAME}} is the official language of the Talman nation [[Verse:Tricin/Anvir|Anvir]] and of former colonies in Cualuav and Txapoalli; after [[Eevo]], it is the second-largest Talmic language in terms of number of speakers. Like most modern Talmic languages, {{PAGENAME}} is a descendant of [[Thensarian]]. It is spoken on the northwest coast of the continent of Etalocin (called ''Eħa'' /ˈɛħə/ in {{PAGENAME}}) on the planet of Tricin. Thanks in large part to the printing press, Modern {{PAGENAME}} rapidly gained prominence over a larger area in Northern Talma and came to serve as a lingua franca for northern mainland Talma. Today, {{PAGENAME}} still enjoys status as a "cultured" language and is one of the most widely taught foreign languages. | ||
This language began as ''Tíogall'', which was a thought experiment posing the question "What would Irish look like with umlaut instead of palatalization?". For a while it developed as an Irish-German hybrid. At one point I decided to remove all "giblangs" from modern Tricin, or languages with the aesthetics of one natlang (unless the premise was funny, like [[Bhadhagha]] or [[Clofabosin]]). Since Tíogall was basically an Irish with German characteristics, it was abandoned. I still decided that Talmic languages needed somewhat more internal diversity (in particular, a "German" analogue to Eevo's "English"), so I decided to revive this project. Since I don't want a German analogue to be so obviously Hiberno-German, this time I'm eschewing obviously German features in the aesthetic such as front rounded vowels, and I'm trying a somewhat Old English and Slavic aesthetic. Also grammar-wise, while keeping a somewhat Celtic grammar (e.g. mutations, head-initial syntax), I'm playing with decidedly non-Celtic grammatical features such as split-ergativity (which was in my original Tíogall), and a singulative-collective-plurative system. | This language began as ''Tíogall'', which was a thought experiment posing the question "What would Irish look like with umlaut instead of palatalization?". For a while it developed as an Irish-German hybrid. At one point I decided to remove all "giblangs" from modern Tricin, or languages with the aesthetics of one natlang (unless the premise was funny, like [[Bhadhagha]] or [[Clofabosin]]). Since Tíogall was basically an Irish with German characteristics, it was abandoned. I still decided that Talmic languages needed somewhat more internal diversity (in particular, a "German" analogue to Eevo's "English"), so I decided to revive this project. Since I don't want a German analogue to be so obviously Hiberno-German, this time I'm eschewing obviously German features in the aesthetic such as front rounded vowels, and I'm trying a somewhat Old English and Slavic aesthetic. Also grammar-wise, while keeping a somewhat Celtic grammar (e.g. mutations, head-initial syntax), I'm playing with decidedly non-Celtic grammatical features such as split-ergativity (which was in my original Tíogall), and a singulative-collective-plurative system. | ||
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*need vowel changes from Old Eevo | *need vowel changes from Old Eevo | ||
**a > ea, e > eo, i > iu in certain conditions - what type of pal'n do these new vowels trigger | **a > ea, e > eo, i > iu in certain conditions - what type of pal'n do these new vowels trigger | ||
***e.g. cell 'small' > *cĕoll > | ***e.g. cell 'small' > *cĕoll > chow /tʃow/ | ||
**already have eo éu iu íu/iú | **already have eo éu iu íu/iú | ||
*Actually palatalization is NOT as simple as this. y ø a o u vs. i ie vs. ia io iu vs ja jo ju je/ĺa ĺo ĺu ĺe affect consonants differently. | *Actually palatalization is NOT as simple as this. y ø a o u vs. i ie vs. ia io iu vs ja jo ju je/ĺa ĺo ĺu ĺe affect consonants differently. | ||
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**sX- > asX- (X = obstruent) | **sX- > asX- (X = obstruent) | ||
**sR- > sVR- (R = m, n, ń, ŋ, r) | **sR- > sVR- (R = m, n, ń, ŋ, r) | ||
*'' | *''mee in aavaħ'' (this DEF book) = 'this book' | ||
*Revise Thensarian declension based on Anvyrese | *Revise Thensarian declension based on Anvyrese | ||
*Have a separate schwa phoneme ''a'' /ə/? | *Have a separate schwa phoneme ''a'' /ə/? | ||
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*''-z'' is one plural suffix (often used for single syllable nouns ending in vowels; from palatalized lenited -dh) | *''-z'' is one plural suffix (often used for single syllable nouns ending in vowels; from palatalized lenited -dh) | ||
**''-a'' pl. ''-az'', not ''-aí'' as in irish or tiogall | **''-a'' pl. ''-az'', not ''-aí'' as in irish or tiogall | ||
*''cht'' > '' | *''cht'' > ''c'' à la Wenedyk, final slender ''-t'' > ''-cy'' | ||
*Use polishy spelling? | *Use polishy spelling? | ||
*aim for siaksisz gib? | *aim for siaksisz gib? | ||