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-'''Irta''' (Hivantish for "Earth") is an alternate history of IE and nearby cultural regions. The premise is "different diachronic evolutions of English, Hebrew, Māori and a few other languages". Some other languages like French and Arabic are a bit more different from our timeline.
-The proto-branch of English in this universe is set in what would be Spain and Portugal in our timeline.
-The only IE branches in Irta not directly inspired by any real life IE languages are Mixolydian, [[Thurish]] and [[Hivantish]].
-==Sketchpad==
-Hivantish can be dominant in the British Isles and most of continental Europe while English is mostly spoken in former colonies?
-South America is mainly French- and Irish-speaking?
-== Sprachbünde ==
-=== Western Europe and North Africa ===
-Large vowel systems
-This sound shift/sprachbund began with the development of Proto-Azalic itself. Remarkably, Spanish was spared of the massive vowel shifts, because it lacked vowel length and had a simple 5-vowel system.
-The Maghrebi sprachbund is considered the "core" of this sprachbund. Languages outside of the Maghrebi sprachbund:
-* Ăn Yidiș
-* Proto-Azalic and English
-* French
-* British Hivantish
-=== North African ===
-Khmerization (from RTR/emphaticness > creaky voice, ATR/nonemphatic > breathy voice), resulting in some of the largest vowel systems in Irta.
-Uvular R, which vocalizes in some languages
-Headedness varies but likes suffixed definite articles
-* [[Padmanábha|Bhadhaghanábha]]
-* [[Nüüretampuor]]
-* Irtan Maghrebi Arabic
-* an Azalic language
-* Modern Camalanàbha
-== Hivantish ==
-* Old [[Hivantish]]
-** [[Modern Hivantish]]
-==Mixolydian==
-A satem IE isolate written in the Latin alphabet; pronunciation is quite similar to Pinyin
-Inspired by Polish and Albanian (aesthetically); Greek and Latin (grammatically)
-z c s zh ch sh r rr j q x = /z ts s ʐ ʈʂ ʂ ɹ/ɽ r ʑ tɕ ɕ/
-dz dzh dj = voiced versions of c ch q
-Stop aspiration is as in Persian (st sounds like sth etc.)
-j from PIE *y, y is used for /j/ in loanwords and from vowel breaking of PIE *e, e.g. yest "is" <- Proto-Mixolydian *esti
-today Mixolydian is a small minority language; Mixolydians have almost entirely shifted to local languages (English, Greek, Romance, Iranian, Indian, Chinese)
-==Latin and Romance==
-Latin is a tonal language like Greek and Sanskrit
-===Hyperfrench===
-French through Proto-Slavic -> Russian sound changes (nasal vowels get denasalized etc.)
-r -> h consistently; a four way stop distinction as in Hindi
-===Modern Latin===
-A language actually named after a cognate of "Latin" spoken in Latium; it has a roughly Catalan/Romanian/Occitan aesthetic
-''Latzial''?
-Should be close to Southern Italian lects (that gave us "capeesh")?
-=== Ladino ===
-Should Ladino be Judeo-Latzial rather than Judeo-Spanish?
-=== Balkan Romance ===
-A Modern Spanish gibby Romance language is spoken in the Balkans, in a sprachbund with Irtan Modern Greek; however, it has completely different sound changes from Spanish.
-==Modern Greek==
-Written in a version of Linear B, roughly Syllabics + katakana inspired
-a lot more ways to write /i/ depending on PIE etymon? maybe *i and *iH can use different glyphs?
-===Hypergreek===
-Some sound splits conditioned by PIE etymon which are merged in Proto-Greek but do not affect intelligibility for a Modern Greek speaker
-=== Portuguese gibby Hellenic ===
-[[Elicá]]
-=== Irtan Yevanic ===
-should be similar to our Modern Greek but with way more Arabic loans
-The Yevanim bring Arabic culture to Jews in Irta, whereas in our world it was the Sephardim.
-==Mitanni==
-Weirdest interpretation of Mitanni cuneiform
-==English==
-{{main|Azalic/English}}
-Most in-universe English dialects don't merge some PIE sounds, like *ei and *ī, which are merged in Proto-Germanic. Otherwise they sound a lot like English accents from our timeline.
-===Hyperamerican===
-an English accent with lots of non-Germanic sound splits as well as General American sound mergers
-LOT ~ THOUGHT, but PIE ey !~ PIE ī
-==Semitic==
-*Proto-Central Semitic
-** PNWS
-*** [[Togarmite]]
-*** (Hyper-)Canaanite
-**** Hebrew
-**** [[Crannish]]
-*** Aramaic
-** Arabic
-*Proto-East Semitic
-** Akkadian
-** [[Far East Semitic]]
-===Hebrew===
-:''Main article: [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Hebrew]]''
-Paleo-Hebrew in this universe distinguishes most consonants of Proto-Semitic, unlike in our timeline. This is reflected in some in-universe Hebrew accents which preserve distinctions like צׁ (tsadi w/ right dot) /ts̠/ vs צׂ (tsadi w/ left dot) /ts/, cognate with Arabic emphatic S/Z and D.
-Though in-universe Tiberian Hebrew is identical to that in our timeline, some in-universe reading traditions, such as Gaelic Hebrew, distinguish
-* cholam from Proto-Semitic *u and *aw = /o/
-* cholam from Proto-Semitic *ā = /u/ (/uə/ in some other reading traditions)
-* Proto-Semitic *ū = Swedish u (/u/ in some other reading traditions)
-Some accents merge the first two vowels like our TibH and Israeli did, some merge the second two, and others, such as [[Ăn Yidiș]] Hebrew, keep all three distinct. Hyper-Israeli reflects the first (and qamatz qatan) as (Seoul) Korean eo, the second as Korean o, and the third as Korean u.
-=== Arabic ===
-Classical Arabic is the same as in our timeline. Arabic is not spoken in our Maghreb, but ''is'' spoken in Turkey (with lots of Turkic loans).
-==Egyptian ==
-get "Noether" or "Paf-Noether" (a Padmanábha surname) from *nāťar 'god', via a divergent descendant of Old Egyptian
-==Māori==
-Proto-Austronesian in Irta has the same urheimat as in our timeline but a very different phonology and morphology; its phonology is small like Finnish and its morphology is Altaic-ish; its evolution into Māori as we know it, a VSO language, is analogous to PIE's evolution into Irish.
-== Celtic ==
-No ē-ey-iH merger?
-*(Hyper)Celtic
-** Picto-Goidelic continuum
-***Old Irish
-**** [[Verse:Irta/Icelandic Gaelic]]
-**** Middle Irish
-***** Modern Irish
-***** [[Ăn Yidiș]]
-** Old Galatian
-*** [[Galoyseg]]
-**[[Nüüretampuor]] (spoken in North Africa)
-=== Alternate history Canadian Gaelic===
-Can date back to Primitive Irish times, incorporates Algonquian loanwords
-or should it be a Celtic-Algonquian creole?
-==A priori ==
-* [[Camalic]]
-* [[Cuam]]
-==Sinitic and Sino-Xenic==
-===Mandarin===
-In-universe Mandarin has two scripts: an alternate history Pinyin and a Hebraization invented by __.
-East Asian languages in Irta generally use the Roman alphabet
-Alternate history pinyin: uses Zhuang tone letters
-b p m f, d t n l, z c s, zr cr sr r, ź ć ś (or otherwise unmarked; clear from context), g k h
-a, ae, au, an, ang
-y for Pinyin e
-"z" by itself is used for Pinyin "zi", Pinyin "ji" is written "zi" or sometimes "gi" (this alternate history Pinyin is introduced during Early Modern Mandarin times so literate users keep older distinctions though spelling mistakes are common nowadays)
-=== Judeo-Mandarin ===
-A form of Zhongyuan or Southwestern Mandarin
-used in the Jewish Autonomous Region of Apple PIE China
-==== Initials ====
-באָ פאָ מאָ ףאָ טא תא נא לא קא כא חא ק'י כּ'י שי זרי צרי שרי רי זי צי סי
-==== Rimes ====
-אַ א אי אָ אוֹ אוּ a e i/(i after retros and dentals) o u ü; the dot in יִ can be omitted.
-אַי עי אַל' אָל' אַן אן אַנק אנק אוֹנק אר/-ר ai ei ao ou an en ang eng ong er/-r
-ל'אַ אָ ל'אַי ל'עי ל'אַן ל'אן ל'אַנק ל'אנק wa o wai wei wan wen wang weng
-ייאַ ייע ייאל' ייאָל' ייען ייִן ייאַנק ייִנק ייוֹנק ya ye yao you yan yin yang ying yong
-אוּע אוּען אוּן yue yuan yun
-ole telisha-gedola etnahta darga = Tones 1 2 3 4 (not motivated by similarity to cantillation melodies; important thing is visual distinguishability)
-should use tone letters instead, Hmoob style
-==== Sample ====
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-Rénrén shēng ér zìyóu, zài zūnyán hé quánlì shàng yīlù píngděng. Tāmen fùyǒu lǐxìng hé liángxīn, bìng yīng yǐ xiōngdì guānxì de jīngshén hùxiāng duìdài.
-===Japanese===
-ch, j written as slender t d/z
-Subete no ningen va, umarenagara ni site ziıụ de ari, catsu, songen to cenli to ni tsuite bioηdoη de aru. Ningen va, liseη to lioηsin to o sazucerarete ori, tagai ni doηhọ no sẹsin o motte cọdọ sinacereba naranai.
-R in native words, L in sino words
-η for historical -ng
--ts, -c for final -tsu, -ku in sino words
-ceu /kjo:/ "today" <- *kefu?
-English words and wasei-eigo are written in italics; this isn't true of Romance words, e.g. pan "bread"
-the word for thank you is written "obligatọ" by folk etymology
-===Accents===
-Apple PIE Japanese can distinguish slender d and slender z
-===Korean===
-모든 인간은 태어날 때부터 자유로우며 그 존엄과 권리에 있어 동등하다.
-boðɨn inɡänɨn tʰæeɤnaʁ tæeβuʰtɤ d̤z̤äjuʁoumjə xɨ d̤z̤onɤmɣwä xwɤ̃ʁiɛj isə d̤oŋðɨŋäðä
-''Modyn inganyn tæ'enar ptæbute zaıuroumıe gy zonymgwa gwenriei isse doňdyňhada''
-===alt-history Sinitic languages===
-==== Swedish/Icelandic inspired Sinitic ====
-Second-largest Chinese lect in Irta
-Develops its own version of erhua (transcribed ''-r'') from Cuam influence but it means something different
-* ''njem'' 'to think' > ''njemr'' (the m is lenited) 'thoughts'
-===Sinospheric IE===
-==Indosphere and Austroasiatic==
-Tamil can use Cyrillic
-Vietnamese can use an abugida based on the Far East Semitic abugida
-==Religions of Irta==
-===Europe===
-* French, Latzial and Irish: Catholicism
-** French: a Reformation which results in something very much like our Unitarianism but it's started by ex-Catholics
-* Azalic: another Reformation (called "Protestant" in universe but very different from our Protestantism, more like "Christianity turned Buddhist"), minority Catholicism (the King James Bible does not exist as we know it but another text is used)
-** The two Reformations (which are both anti-Trinitarian; the second is overtly atheist); in Crackfic Irta they spark a wave of migration to Tricin
-** Similar movements in the Jewish and Hivantish worlds
-*** "Reform Judaism" is a result of this
-* Hivantish: Hivantish paganism, Protestants are a minority
-* Balkan Romance and Greek: Greek Orthodox
-* Ăn Yidiș and Irta Yevanic: Judaism (obviously)
-===Africa===
-* Maghreb: Buddhist, Catholic
-===Asia===
-*Tamil, Indian Austroasiatic: druids; Catholic, Protestant, Sufi (various levels of syncretism)
-*Togarmite: Sufi, various Hellenistic
-*Far East Semitic: Sufi, druids, animist, Jewish

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