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varaske ha-vavaralas halov ha-sotsorite | varaske ha-vavaralas halov ha-sotsorite | ||
ha-lisat, nome ras, sere ha-seralas ras | |||
veńavaj mir valo ta | veńavaj mir valo ta | ||
tavańa mir ha-livav nomete | tavańa mir ha-livav nomete | ||
vańa vańa sataka mir jan vańa tan | vańa vańa sataka mir jan vańa tan | ||
ha-koralas, mare mir, nivańa nonete mir ras, netesi rase | |||
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|tear-{{sc|dyn-nonact-quickly}}||{{sc|poss}}-mosaic||life||{{sc|def}}-stones<{{sc|dim}}>={{sc|dir}} | |tear-{{sc|dyn-nonact-quickly}}||{{sc|poss}}-mosaic||life||{{sc|def}}-stones<{{sc|dim}}>={{sc|dir}} | ||
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|ha- | |ha-lisat||no-m-e||ras||ser-e||ha-seralas||ras | ||
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|{{sc|def}}-ruler||{{sc|intens}}-great-{{sc|stat}}||{{sc|3p.m}}||sit-{{sc|stat}}||{{sc|poss}}-chair||{{sc|3p.m}} | |{{sc|def}}-ruler||{{sc|intens}}-great-{{sc|stat}}||{{sc|3p.m}}||sit-{{sc|stat}}||{{sc|poss}}-chair||{{sc|3p.m}} | ||
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==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
*Almost everything is explained in the short article [[Van]]. Do take a peek. | |||
*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO. | |||
*Time is *not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!). | |||
*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb. | *A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb. | ||
*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main clause they are marked with the directive '''=e'''. | |||
*:''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → ''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;{{sc|dir}}” where the second relative clause matches with ''ha-tok'', i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark. | |||
*When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun. | |||
*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David” | |||
*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word. | |||
*The directive enclitic '''=e''' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. Oh, right, let's not forget, sometimes it works a bit like a translative, (NP NP=e), e.g. ''mak nansi=e'' “Mark became Nancy”. It attaches to phrases. | |||
==Bonus== | |||
*''vavaralas'' and ''varaske'' looking similar? That's because a mosaic in Van is a "a collection of torn things/things you tear". | |||
*The diminutive infix ''<ri>'' is a recycled favourite from an old sketch. | |||
*''lisat'' and ''sataka'' looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root ''√sat-'' “to govern, rule”! | |||
*''√mar-'' is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”~“just”. |
Latest revision as of 09:58, 13 July 2015
varaske ha-vavaralas halov ha-sotsorite
ha-lisat, nome ras, sere ha-seralas ras
veńavaj mir valo ta
tavańa mir ha-livav nomete
vańa vańa sataka mir jan vańa tan
ha-koralas, mare mir, nivańa nonete mir ras, netesi rase
Interlinear gloss
var-a-s-ke | ha-vavaralas | halov | ha-sotso<ri>t=e | |||||
tear-dyn-nonact-quickly | poss-mosaic | life | def-stones<dim>=dir | |||||
ha-lisat | no-m-e | ras | ser-e | ha-seralas | ras | |||
def-ruler | intens-great-stat | 3p.m | sit-stat | poss-chair | 3p.m | |||
veń-a-vaj | mir | valo | ta | |||||
come-dyn-suddenly | 2p | sea | away | |||||
ta-vań-a | mir | ha-livav | no-met=e | |||||
good-do-dyn | 2p | poss-favour | intens-sky=dir | |||||
vań-a | vań-a | sataka | mir | jan | vań-a | tan | ||
cause-dyn | do-dyn | law | 2p | like | proverb-dyn | 1p | ||
ha-koralas | mar-e | mir | ni-vań-a | no-net-e | mir | ras | net-e-si | ras=e |
def-friend | upright-stat | 2p | perhaps-cause-dyn | intens-hold-stat | 2p | 3p.m | hold-stat-little | 3p.m=dir |
Notes
- Almost everything is explained in the short article Van. Do take a peek.
- Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.
- Time is *not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).
- A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ni- “perhaps” on the verb.
- A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main clause they are marked with the directive =e.
- mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok. “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase. “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;dir” where the second relative clause matches with ha-tok, i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark.
- When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun.
- mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”
- no- is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.
- The directive enclitic =e habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. Oh, right, let's not forget, sometimes it works a bit like a translative, (NP NP=e), e.g. mak nansi=e “Mark became Nancy”. It attaches to phrases.
Bonus
- vavaralas and varaske looking similar? That's because a mosaic in Van is a "a collection of torn things/things you tear".
- The diminutive infix <ri> is a recycled favourite from an old sketch.
- lisat and sataka looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root √sat- “to govern, rule”!
- √mar- is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”~“just”.