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A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs as well as diachronic Dravidian ones

Kyravar Mazhi revamped

Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund

Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh" through some kind of Czech ř-like sound (which can be dialectal)

mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?

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-'''Tamizh''' is an Indo-European language spoken in [alternate history].
+A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs as well as diachronic Dravidian ones
-=Todo=
-Conjugation of "to carry":
-<poem>
-peruva, peruvar, peruva, peruvóm, peruvai, peruven = future/habitual tense inflection
-perutti, peruttir, perutti, peruttóm, peruttai, perutten = past tense inflection
-perukir, perukir, perukir, perukiróm, perukirai, perukiren = present tense inflection
-needs more TAM suffixes
+==Kyravar Mazhi revamped==
-</poem>
+Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund
-kuzhai = hill
+Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh" through some kind of Czech ř-like sound (which can be dialectal)
-ót(u)- = to run (from h₃ed- semantically drifted from 'hate')
+mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?
-h2er-t- 'order' (c.f. sanskrit ṛta, avestan arta) -> ārþ 'time' -> -árt (when) (like how clofabosin got sertib) -> -ál (if) (e.g. peruttál = if (someone) carried)
-ariþ 'time'
-límai 'lake'
-aittru 'bear' (the animal)
-toru 'house' (from *dóru 'wood' -> 'timber' -> 'house')
-virat 'root'
-þintu 'string'
-tí 'fire' (from *dyéws 'sky' -> 'sun' -> 'fire')
-kém 'ice' (from *ǵʰyems)
-stáva, státti, stákir 'stand'
-kwinsuva, kwinsutti, kwinsukir 'wander' (from *gʷem 'come/go' + -sḱe durative)
-poríva, porítti, poríkir 'give' (from *bʰoreyeti)
-firsuva, firsutti, firsukir 'deny' (from *pṛsḱe- 'ask' -> 'suspect' -> 'deny')
-veippa, veitti, veikkir 'know' (from *weyd)
-Vrippa, Vritti, Vrikkir 'believe' (to decide on V; from *ḱred-dʰeh3 'believe' -> hret- -> Vrit-, with the dʰeh3 reinterpreted as a perfective marker)
-alispa, alisti, aliskir 'protect' (from *h₂léḱseti); ''aliskiren'' means "they are protecting"
-orukíva, orukítti, orukíkir 'pull' (from *h₃roǵéyeti 'straighten' -> 'stretch' -> 'pull')
--mṇ -> -men -> -me -> -mai (abstract noun)
-=Plan=
-In the first stage, verbs develop aspect marking by suffixing -dheh3 and -bhuh2 (the first is perfective and the second imperfective, much like Welsh uses gwneud and bod).
-In the second stage, the imperfective and perfective aspects turn into nonpast and past tenses, like what happened in Israeli Hebrew and Arabic. Erosion turns the suffixes into -v-/-pp-/-p- and -nt-/-tt-/-t- respectively (through Grimm-like sound changes: dh -> d -> t while old t -> þ; the nasal in -nt- comes from PIE verbs where -nu- is infixed in the present tense).
-In the last stage, a new present tense is innovated from a combination of *gʰi- and *kʷel 'to turn', which gets morphed into a suffix -kir- (by a somewhat Persian-like sound change: l -> r, rd/rt -> l. and old *rH and *lH -> zh) Meanwhile, the old nonpast is used for both the habitual present and the future tense. Verbs analogically level into 7 classes with variations.
-The syntax gets more head-final and agglutinative as it evolves (and grammatical gender gets correlated with lexical gender), and the modern form is practically Altaic.
-=Phonology=
-Somewhere between Germanic and actual Tamil: p f t þ s k h kw hw~w m n ŋ l r zh y v a á e é i í o ó u ú ai ei eu au
-u = /ɨ/
-PIE *t d dʰ -> þ t t
-=Grammar=
--kki / -kku = dative case (from PIE *ǵʰes- 'hand')
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