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'''Txapoalli''' (English: /tʃɑːpoʊˈɑːli/ ''chah-poh-AH-lee'', [[Naquian]]: ''Txapoalli'' /tʃapoˈalːi/; [[Eevo]]: ''Nyçés'') is a large continent in Tricin. It contains (at least) two cultural regions, which are quite different:
'''Txapoalli''' (English: ''chah-poh-AH-lee'' or ''chap-oh-AL-ee'', [[Naquian]]: ''Txapoalli'' /tʃapoˈalːi/; [[Eevo]]: ''Nyçís'' via Windermere ''Năchis'') is the largest continent in Tricin by land area, followed by Cualuav. Txapoalli is just a geographically defined region. It contains three main cultural regions, which are quite different.
*Naquosphere
*Sjowaazhosphere
*!Zoom Islands


==Languages==
==Regions==
TODO: more languages.
*Naquiz: Northwest Txapoalli (closer to Talma)
*Hetm: Central Txapoalli
*Sowaázh daSóol: Off West Txapoalli
*herIdosm: East Txapoalli
*the Rencad (PTs ''*čɢenkad'')
*Onishia


Language families, to the extent they can be reconstructed:
==History==
*Naquic
===Ancient===
**[[Naquian]]
Proto-Sowaazhic speakers settled Sowaázh.
***Tizian
**Initial Salishy clusters?
*Quihum
**Old Sjowaazheñ
***[[Sjowaazheñ]]
**[[Apple PIE]]
**Primitive Zoom
***[[!Zoom]] (not part of Mainland Txapoalli)
**Sẹkha (Pseudo-Sanskrit)
***Pseudo-Sanskrito-Thai
*Tzaloxic
**[[Trây]]
**Tzaloxian
**[[Pradjuul]]


Idea for Sjowaazhosphere: "Sinosphere languages recast as Native American languages", steal from Semitic languages too
The [[Naquian]] Empire was initially typically polytheistic, like other ancient Quihum religions.
*Mandarin: Sjowaazh (Quihum)
*Cantonese: Something related to Sjowaazh (Quihum)
*Vietnamese: Trây
*Korean: Old "Geulic Tamil" idea (Naquic)
*Khmer: Tzaloxian
*Tibetan: Initial Salishy clusters (Naquic)
*Burmese: Register tones, glottalized resonants (Naquic?)
*Japanese: CV-heavy language (Nizutsam, thus Clofabic?)
*Thai: Sanskrito-Thai gib (~ Quihum)
*Mongolian: Weird asymmetrical inventory (Quihum)


Common grammatical features:
The [[Hetomic]] Empire was also founded.
*Rich politeness/honorific system (especially Quihum)
*Bantu-style noun classes (especially Tsimulh-Naquic)
*Active-stative-ish tendencies (Tzaloxic)
*Relational nouns
*Head-marking tendency


==Music==
===Medieval===
===Naquosphere===
Near the end of Naquian Empire era there emerged a tradition of theater exploring themes that were the province of religion. This caused something of a conflict in society; the old religious authorities, who would brook no replacement of the traditional religion, took measures against the "theaterists". However it failed.
Uses 7-tone neutral third scale subsets of 27edo: 6L 1s or 3L 4s


<poem>
===Modern===
early naquians could have started out with JI
Silphium Wars?
the difference between naquian music and etalocian music would be that the former cared more about "expressiveness" (kind of like the romantics) than harmony (making their approach to tuning more 'fluid')
hence, peppermint tuning!
that expressiveness could have come from theater
whereas the etalocians value precision/purity of harmony more
which is why the art song tradition emerged much later
(like even the way the instruments are built in etalocin reflect a more structurally microtonal approach)
that might have weird consequences for naquian "mathemusic"
like, naquians may think of the scale in terms of rough 'pitch classes' (formalized by CS)


some things that might arise in the actual music:
==Names==
1) heavy ornamentation (trills, yodeling, falsetto, vibrato ...)
The Eevo name ''Nycís'' probably derives from a form of ''Naquiz'', borrowed through Windermere.
2) neutral third scales (Bruno Nettl found that infants experimenting with singing tend to use neutral thirds quite a bit)
==Geography==
but no throat singing
*Arpala Mountains
choral "polyphony" of a different kind (less focused on pure harmonies and more on "gestures")
and Partch-style corporeality!
folk music of course might use just intonation with instruments that use the overtone series (like the jaw harp and overtone flutes)
the weird side effect is Etalocin doesn't have a "Partch figure"
(because Partchian music is an ancient tradition)
the Xaetjeon people collectively import it to Etalocin
some instruments can start out as simple devices used to imitate natural phenomena (animal calls, wind, thunder ...) in theater
then some clever modern Naquian would find a way to capture those effects on the ngjeomsam 😀
let's say the emphasis on neutral thirds leads to a rough division of the octave into 7 parts
and a 27 tone octave (that's another neutral third MOS)
though the closest i can get to 7edo in 27edo is 4 4 4 3 4 4 4
or 4 4 4 4 3 4 4 for a mode with a perfect fifth
that gives me an idea for terminology
each step in 7edo can be likened to a lunar cycle (divided into 4 parts, full moon, waning, new moon and waxing)
there will be overlap between the "full moon" of the first step and the "waxing" part of the last step (since there are 27 and not 28 steps in the naquian octave)
or the step that's subdivided into 3 can be considered "defective"
this "micro"-subdivision is used in two places
1) with instruments of fixed pitch
2) in pedagogic methods so students can get a rough idea as to where the intervals lie
(for students of voice and flexible pitch instruments)
Þwhgad could give the name '["Naquian tuning"]' to tetracot temperament 😀
or '["Naquian temperament"]' (a misnomer on many levels!)
in fact a 7 step octave would make it possible for a notation a lot like our staff notation to be adopted in the naquosphere! (leaving etalocians with something symbolic like daseian?)


a possible naquian notation
==Languages==
the 27 tone "scale"
TODO: more languages.
(dots signify raising and lowering by discrete quantities, fancier shapes next to the notes are used for other ornaments)
sounds like C Db Ed Fd(trilled with G) G->F#->G kind of
often played as 1/1 21/20 5/4 9/7 3/2->10/7->3/2 on the sewvore
</poem>


===Sjowaazhosphere===
Language families:
Tuning-wise, Sjowaazheñ music is based on the meantone diatonic scale like Western music, but uses modal rather than tonal harmony; modes other than major and minor are common.
*[[Lakovic languages]]
**[[!Zoom]]
**[[Qlenziêr]]
*[[Tsimulh languages]]
**[[Hetomic]]
**[[Pelhyys]]
**[[Idosian]]
**[[Rencadian]]
**[[Sacred Swuntsim]]
***[[Swuntsim]]
*[[Quame languages]]
**[[Naquian]]
***[[Tizian]]
***a pseudo-Georgian/Nuxálk
***[[Whehmer]]
***Other Naquic languages
*[[Sowaár]]
*[[Witcanese]]
*Arpalan
**[[Varquun]]
*Onishic
**Ejectivepolyvietnamese
*A fifth family (dependent marking, honorific mania)


==Historical figures==
Common features:
*Quēhtłoyoz - [[Naquian]] grammarian
*Larger than average consonant inventories, often with ejectives, affricates, and lateral obstruents (Tsimulh, most of Naquic, and Sowaazhic)
*Huichaltzah - [[Naquian]] explorer, conlanger and playwright
*One area with aeiou, one area with tendency toward small vowel inventories
*Mauaz nah Païxa - [[Tzaloxian]] explorer
*Pitch accent or tone (Lakovic, Sowaazhic)
*Wañjeyi - [[Sjowaazheñ]] poet
*Rich politeness/honorific system (especially Quihum)
 
*Bantu-style noun classes (especially Tsimulh)
==Religion==
*Active-stative-ish tendencies
===Naquian===
*Relational nouns
Early polytheism turns into sci-fi - but then what?
*Head-marking tendency (Hetomic)
===Sjowaazheñ===
Jotting down ideas
 
Sjowaazheñ religion is Basically Buddhism but more proselytizing. They apply the concept of karma and reincarnation to the world collectively in addition to individual humans. That's how the world itself began and ended many times; if humanity collectively behaves badly enough, an apocalypse will come due to the accrued karmic debt and a new universe will arise from the ashes. [I'm not going to use exactly these terms - it's not exactly a "relex" of Buddhism.]
 
Karma/sin and payoffs - The genius of Christianity is to subvert this (in a really twisted way, perhaps)
 
==Places==
*Tui-Faäni/Uānithazza - ancient capital of Naquian Empire
*Shjhedaad = capital of Sjowaazh
[[Category:Tricin]]
[[Category:Tricin]]

Latest revision as of 19:47, 25 January 2023

Txapoalli (English: chah-poh-AH-lee or chap-oh-AL-ee, Naquian: Txapoalli /tʃapoˈalːi/; Eevo: Nyçís via Windermere Năchis) is the largest continent in Tricin by land area, followed by Cualuav. Txapoalli is just a geographically defined region. It contains three main cultural regions, which are quite different.

Regions

  • Naquiz: Northwest Txapoalli (closer to Talma)
  • Hetm: Central Txapoalli
  • Sowaázh daSóol: Off West Txapoalli
  • herIdosm: East Txapoalli
  • the Rencad (PTs *čɢenkad)
  • Onishia

History

Ancient

Proto-Sowaazhic speakers settled Sowaázh.

The Naquian Empire was initially typically polytheistic, like other ancient Quihum religions.

The Hetomic Empire was also founded.

Medieval

Near the end of Naquian Empire era there emerged a tradition of theater exploring themes that were the province of religion. This caused something of a conflict in society; the old religious authorities, who would brook no replacement of the traditional religion, took measures against the "theaterists". However it failed.

Modern

Silphium Wars?

Names

The Eevo name Nycís probably derives from a form of Naquiz, borrowed through Windermere.

Geography

  • Arpala Mountains

Languages

TODO: more languages.

Language families:

Common features:

  • Larger than average consonant inventories, often with ejectives, affricates, and lateral obstruents (Tsimulh, most of Naquic, and Sowaazhic)
  • One area with aeiou, one area with tendency toward small vowel inventories
  • Pitch accent or tone (Lakovic, Sowaazhic)
  • Rich politeness/honorific system (especially Quihum)
  • Bantu-style noun classes (especially Tsimulh)
  • Active-stative-ish tendencies
  • Relational nouns
  • Head-marking tendency (Hetomic)
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