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==Nurified Celtic==
==Nurified Celtic==
==Məbhótəḷ==
/kə 'ʂʏnə kə 'sləfə toː ʔəs'fɛː/ = the tree grows on the ground
Məchə̄tva:
nunukəʔ > nunəx
qsamňuo > qramňuo > qrɔwɲə > qrɔːɲə
ďə̄ > ɟəː
sai > sɛː
fie > fiə
hū > uː
schau > skau > skɔː
zṇiepsai > ʐɳi:fsə
łaisəṭ > ɬɛ:səʂ
cə:ʈa:b > cə:ʂəv
łuchṭi > ɬʏxʈ
panāch > fəna:x
zoudū > zo:ðə
fie > fi:? (like German)
yes
c -> c (palatal stop)
dve -> dvɛ:
2
schau > skau > skɔː
looks like pgmc->german backwards
but that's just the spelling
i think different məbhótəḷ accents will realize the vowels differently (as diphthongs or monophthongs)
yes
tayo -> tayɔ:
cattāro -> cahta:rɔ:
pañca -> pañca
cha -> cə
might be too short
sadijə̄ > sɛðə
sorry
3,4 = tsayɔ:, cahtsa:rɔ:
7: satta -> sahtsa (i can get "seitse" in a descendant 😃 )
8: aṭṭha -> ahtə
9: nava -> nava
10: dasa -> dzara
20: should be a Khmer word
məpʰɨj < *muəj pʰɨj
tho I don't know the Old Khmer etymon
i don't know if bh was a valid cluster in Old Khmer
it was probably ph + breathy voice
yes
-> paihya or paih
does that undergo the breathy vowel shift?
no
the breathy vowel shift is independent
pchai > pəxai > pəxɛ:
5*20 = sata (dissimulated from satsa <- sata in Pali; a separate word)
400: slVk (i have to decide on the vowels)
buchou > buxə
i feel like doing something with final vowels
final long -> short and short -> Ø
yes
like arabic dialects
ťchə̄ṭāb > cəxə:ʈa:b? or maybe it's treated as cə:ʈa:b
cə:ʈa:b is good
-> Ccotab
> çəʈa:v or çʈa:v
i'll assimilate that cluster
sʈa:v
çʈ is hard
or ʂʈ
ʂʈa:v
yes
thank god you don't have a triconsonantal root system!
non-breathy ā and e can merge into ɛ (via æ)
yes
zṇiepsai > ʐɳi:fsə
the end goal should be a vowel system that looks a little Mon-Khmer but not too much
łaisəṭ > ɬɛ:səʂ
śéasaṭh 😃
if there are two heavy syllables in a row should the first one be stressed or the second one?
your previous word looks worse in terg orthography: ḍhnḍaoiphsa
how do you imagine mechetva stress?
comic terg 😃
i'm totally going to use fhbhf- for /w/
or glottalized w
i would not be able to use umlaut as much if stress doesn't tend toward initial
if i use non-initial stress i might go with pseudo-rencadian
with not as many vowels
what about: stress is on the first heavy syllable, or if no syllable is heavy, the first syllable
yes
heavy = long vowel, diphthong or VC
that works
cə:ʈa:b > cə:ʂəv
it reminds me of siaoued, with the retros and ə:
yes
łuchṭi > ɬʏxʈə
Schlüchṭe
panāch > fna:x
or fəna:x?
maybe fəna:x
yes
sorry, ɬʏxʈ
final long vowels become schwa, final short vowels vanish
ɬʏxʈ = summer?
should i start from Pali or from one of the other Prakrits (like the one that led to Hindi)
the latter would be interesting
(Hindi uses postpositions and i can easily merge them to create case endings)
zoudū > zo:ðə
ʔidieb > di:v
on the other hand Pali has the advantage that speakers of my conlang would easily be able to read the Buddhist texts 😃
pouňuob > po:ɲəv
maybe i'll get r but not word initially
qsamňuo > qrɔːɲə
bühe
əŋʔī > əŋŋi: > ŋi:
ƛauchkīb > ƛaukīb > tɬœ:xəv
or maybe > ƛaukkīb > tɬœ:xəv
tɬœ:kəv
hichsaim > chsaim > xrɛ:w
n(ə)xrɛ:w?
ŋy:ŋə
fsīzie > fri:ə
bīpchou > bi:fxə (or bi:fə?)
zmaiṭcha > zmaəʂ
ḍuofďəƛ > ḍuoďďəƛ > ɖuəɟəɬ
luťi > lʏç
suojau > su:ə
ƛeizbouď > tɬe:bo:j or tɬe:bəj
əňchāƛmāḍ > əŋkāƛmāḍ > ga:ɬməʐ
vaiṭṇə̄ > wɛ:ṇə
snuo > snuə
dbou > bou > bo:
= cow
souṇəz > so:ɳə
rdbuag skals -> buachaill
vəbeib > wəbe:v
beibələm > be:vlo:
gouchuḷ > go:xəɭ
pūntū > pu:də
tchai > tɛ:
əṇsausie > ʐœ:ə
jāffīṭ > jɛ:fəʂ
panāch zoudū ʔidieb sie pouňuob ḷu būďīz əŋʔī za ƛauchkīb sgi hichsaim huŋei fŋieŋŋuo tuo fsīzie bīpchou zmaiṭcha chṇə ba ŋou ňī ḍuofďəƛ luťi suojau łei sə̄ zou ƛeizbouď əňchāƛmāḍ kə̄ buoḷə̄ łūknu kḍaďə̄ schā chuopḍei slī vaiṭṇə̄ snuo dbou souṇəz vəbeib gouchuḷ ňu pūntū tchai əṇsausied stabaiλ jāffīṭ əlsou pgaiheiʔ sachna tfə nałchuos ʔī əlsie sībī ňūdies guo ūtti zə̄sň­ə̄ň hu ʔei zuku huchduod bouhaun gemcheib tā hi miƛū mou hə̄ smie ňai ʔauppəʔ zai qṭaumeiʔ baiqī qəʔeib souhies ďū chiʔou ṇū əltaifsous ʔeitbā ʔuoʔə̄ʔ ʔə fuoffouṭ ki buo bou ʔūmə qū ʔie mau ʔə̄chpāb ṇā łai pṇīhə̄ zə̄ chlai łgouzīp dou λāsūs ḍou baimpai lə̄ ƛəňňu ťu łou beiλə ḍīzuoʔ zīʔuo bi ṭa sū ṇī klə̄ʔouḷ chie zi simie ʔai zu chougə̄ hīsau əlgə̄ chə̄suʔ qāvei paibīʔ pḍū fsuosiez ʔīfdə̄ λə̄chsī ʔachauf ḍubbai mā əlʔəqīʔ λḍeichḍāz łqeiḍaḷ ʔeibə̄ dachbaup chzū zu sbə bā sniefŋi łū viemied chdazzau buoʔūk łulqām ʔau kai λau ḷā hūvau chaubu ďibə̄ liebāň tlai zuchzauḍ buḍā pə̄mpieb sou hāmī chei łoubuo təʔū ʔałach pəfei əltou sū zna hā juopəg əŋməgzeich ʔuoṇḍū ƛəziḍ lə pouffī zau ŋə sa deichsouď ʔuchiej schīʔouz kłəzai jāpnəŋ guovə̄ chḷīłuk sū łāggād guonā lie bābūch gī ʔousə λṇei zī sāvū ta zmi ƛətpūs ənmei chi ḍie pu lieheich zu gissai λuƛuo sgou λəplai hietňei pie chḍə̄ pṭuo ƛā sei ŋeipu λū suosūs fə fouŋkauf fei əňďāňňūʔ biepau zāsai ənʔə̌ʔuʔ zūkā na ƛūŋŋaiq qā ʔie zouḷḷuol bī əňʔa mjusi ƛouṇṇou pikie sāṇṇei deizuo hachāʔ əňʔie ənnuomuo ʔauďāp ṭuŋmoul guṇma zāʔi hāŋŋa ṭu ʔə bu fou ʔouʔei gə̄ ʔəzə ʔīḷə̄s λə̄ chu misuʔ chou saiŋnə̄ sə̄ ʔau ŋə əŋmuosei łū gau ƛu gī əŋgāḷīb ʔī baiṇu hinmū hā ṭūbə pə̄ḍeig əlneinsaz mīgə ṭei ʔəlŋie hi ṭuogūλ əŋnə fie λī zie həsei əḷṇinzī veihāz λou vou belŋīch nou əmbə̄ zə̄ďau keichie tiebieď lulmauṭ mləqəʔ əlnuozou ənzaʔā ňou najə̄ʔ mi əmbailʔə̄p ənƛiṭuo łou ŋa pumbaud ʔaṭīλ ḍu bie bou ḍai ʔa ʔīgā əlŋei dou fāʔū mlilňie ḍuo əṇṭə zou vuḷu ʔəʔib suƛou kə̄ dāzie ṭə əḷḷie ṭə ḍūŋŋad ba mu ʔū qinsais ʔaunsaich ʔā zaiza zə̄ŋauz sū əmbau ʔailuň ʔaimmu zau fou ʔai əňťei bə̄kous suo əňňauʔu jeihāʔ əṇḍau λī hie chə jə əňňū λitouł pau ťuo łiʔie λai ňā hīňďəd vū piełať səduḷ λeimīf jai jīʔə̄ƛ ti ŋai sainə̄ch əlnei zī fə̄ʔəʔ ʔou dou əňňə chə̄mpəʔ dəḍā haiguo nūṭə̄ʔ ŋei di ʔə̄llub ňā die qei əlʔu əntievi qu əlʔa jaiďəʔ ŋaiňaiʔ zī ənzəʔaip ṭuo zāŋkuď jeiṭauḍ feiňňūd əṇsuo λuombīb vu mŋīzāp mňūsiʔ
Mutations: lenition, glottalization (aka reverse urú)
m n ɳ ɲ ŋ p t tɬ ʈ c k q ʔ b d dɮ ɖ ɟ g f s ɬ z w l ɭ j 0 {{angbr|''m n ṇ ň ŋ p t ƛ ṭ ť k q ʔ b d λ ḍ ď g f s ł z w l ḷ j 0''}}
*lenition: w n ṇ j ŋ f θ ɬ ʂ ç x χ 0 v ð ɮ ʐ j ɣ ʍ h 0 w l ḷ j 0 {{angbr|''mh n ṇ ňh ŋ ph th ƛh ṭh ťh kh qh ʔh bh dh λh ḍh ďh gh fh sh łh zh w l ḷ j 0''}}
*glottalization: b d ɖ ɟ g p t tɬ ʈ c k ʔ p t tɬ ʈ c k f s ɬ s ʍ ɬ ɬʵ ç ʔ {{angbr|''bm dn ḍṇ ďň gŋ p t ƛ ť k q ʔ pb td ƛλ ṭḍ ťď kg f s ł sz ƕw łl ł̣ḷ çj ʔ-''}}
Need consonant cluster assimilations.
Stress on the last heavy syllable (except the final syllable). > Umlaut and syncope.
Umlaut, stage 1:
# a ə i u aa əə ei ii ou uu ai au ie uo
#* > a ə i u aa əə ei ii ou uu ɛɛ ɔɔ ie uo
#* (i) - ɛ e i y ɛɛ ee ei ii øy yy ai ay ie yø
#* (u) - ɔ o y u ɔɔ øy yy ou uu øy au yø uo
#* (a) - a ə ı ı aa əə ıı oo əə aı aı ıə ıə
Vowel shift 2:
Grammar: Head-final with mutations and gender
==Terg analogue==
==Terg analogue==
Evolves from a language that sounds "alien" to S-Naquian
Evolves from a language that sounds "alien" to S-Naquian
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