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'''Ferlitian''' is a [[Lakovic]] language.
'''Ferlitian''' is a [[Lakovic]] language.


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a -> ã -> a + nasalization of the following consonant
ten is "tam"
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what should happen to r?
OMG
I got the perfect idea
English style "r colored vowels"
but
with trills
ùrat -> /r̩ran/
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some accents of Wiebian can have a "floor of the mouth tap" for ɭ
or some registers/idiolects/...
3 should end with an n
by analogy with 1 and 2
well...
I could use some swedishy sound changes
sje for example should be a thing
and ʈ should come from other sources
there should be some front rounded vowels as well
and possibly prenasalized consonants?
d > ð > slit fric > sje?
instead of L?
maybe initial d -> sj
and medial d -> L
"tjukk l" essentially
tsiw -> tji:
with the viby-i 😀
because it's wiebian
basically, a syllabic palatalized dental fricative
actually i'd keep 2 as uran
Trây may use these vowel changes in open syllables:
i > ai, ai > ê
u > au, au > ô
alon, uran, tjî, ntsak, myt, sjang, avårt, tliev, plö, tam
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ie is /iə/
rt is /ʈ/
î is viby-i
8 can become ntliev by analogy with 4
actually i can switch 2 back to urat
simply because of
interference from 3
alon, urat, tjî, ntsak, myt, sjang...
and similarly with 5 and 6
though the usual reflex of c is t
alon, urat, tjî, ntsak, mysj, sjang, avårt, ntliep, plö, tam
again with 8 getting the initial consonant of 9
ferlitian should be some lakovic language
what should it look like?
in etalocin?
something more strictly CV than Amharic?
yeah
the -am suffix could be the default plural
or there can be a gender split of sorts
with feminine nouns pluralizing in -s
(!)
and masculine ones in -am
and of course gender would be lost after that because of contact with hlou shum
(that's in wiebian)
how do you like that
wiebian is as un-german as it can get
yeah wiebian should lose gender
but ferlitian perhaps not
yeah
could ferlitian sound a little bantu
ferlitian might use a phonology similar to what i had for yacavestub
like some hybrid of bantu and croatian
m n ŋ p t k b d g f s ts h v z l r j
i e ə a o u
it would be the new rozzino
:D
if windermere is netagin
ferlition might even be a little head-final?
ferlitian*
adoni, raći, civi, maseči, mući etc.
final -i may be devoiced
especially after voiceless consonants
yeah
č could be like polish cz
there might be cases and such
it's like "uncanny valley feynman italian"!
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tho it maybe shouldn't be CW
there can be more geminates
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mućći
pronounced as preaspirated consonants? 😀
(i love those)
muhći
adoňňi, raći, civi, masehči, muhći, ...
d between vowels is ð
or could d always be ð? 😀
civi sounds almost like /tsivç/
masehči is like /masɛhtʃʲ/
should it have no voicing?
a can be /ɔ/-ish
while o becomes ø and ü stays as y?
at least non initially
maybe
though
voicing is an etalocian feature
it could be that ferlitian just happens not to have it
yeah
Grammar: SVO with cases? like Estonian
yeah
Me aRRUcha LAMpe etta TIche -> /mi ɔ'r̥uʈʂɔ lɔmpʲç eʰtɔ ti:tʃʲç/
this is like another nurian
quasi-italian with weird pronunciation
yeah
that shouldn't be an accent of dodellian though
one accent of dodellian can have somewhat retroflexed l
(and could the same be true of clofabosin? 😀 )
efenol "of the path" -> [e̞fe̞no̞ɭ]
that can be common in dodellia like philly l is in talma
ferlitian may not have that though
but
one dodellic language could turn ll into ɖɖ!
chaɖɖo
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adoňňimi < adoňňi-mi = together
i imagine that consonants before i are palatalized by default
as in japanese
the vowels of ferlitian would be
ɛ ɔ i u ø y
too weird?
could standard clofab have uvular R?
so it would sound like it's spoken in an israeli accent
and could things like -vir sound like german r colored vowels?
maybe not
àplon -> /ɔʰtɬønə/?
final vowels could be added
yeah
i think telugu did that
kannada too
*nīr "water" -> nīru
and italian
sunt -> sono
yeah
in water = ahtlönemi
should there be final nasal vowels as in portuguese?
ahtlönim
waters
*evra intensifies*
/ɔʰ'tɬønĩ/
or could that get ng instead
ahtlöning
-ng is good
in waters = ahtlöningmi
with waters = ahtlöniňňa
there's that -ñña 😀
sounds like amarəñña
it needs an accusative
how about -ye?
ahtlöneye, ahtlöniňňe
yeah
there are basically no consonant clusters in ferlitian
i could do the french trick
initial ks- -> sk- (as in windermere) -> ek-
stress is on the last syllable of the root
so case endings are unstressed
ksìʔ > ekii 'star'
or ekihi?
ekiyye maybe
/ɛkij:ə/
final ə may be syncoped
in the accusative it's ekiyyeye /ɛkij:e:/
yeah
śkey could become uk-
ukeyye
or should i use holtzmann's law as in gothic and norse?
ukegge
/ukɛʥ:i̤/
we might get accidental n-words
they could just flal out of use
that's a problem...
yy could be pronounced /ʥ:/
yeah
or i could write it đđ
yeah
gg anyway isn't consistent with croatian orthography
looks sami almost
yeah
there are some uralic touches
which is expected
ukeđđe
ukeđđing 😀
looks like "u kidding"
maybe i should spell it -im but pronounce it -iŋ
or use hmooby orthography
-ng isn't really logical in non-IE languages
so i shouldn't be using it in windermere 😀
ukeđđiŋ looks even more sami so i should probably just use that
geminate voiced stops may actually be voiceless 😀
since voiceless stops get preaspirated
this is like "rozzino read like icelandic"
ferlitia would be some kind of autonomous region in dodellia
would they have clofabosin loans?
this is like the new ksieħ
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==Phonology==
==Phonology==
m n ŋ p t k b d g f s ts h v z l r j {{angbr|''m n ŋ p t c b d g f s ts h v z l r y''}}
m n ŋ p t k b d g f s ts h v z l r j {{angbr|''m n ŋ p t c b d g f s ts h v z l r y''}}

Revision as of 02:35, 18 August 2018

Ferlitian is a Lakovic language.

Phonology

m n ŋ p t k b d g f s ts h v z l r j ⟨m n ŋ p t c b d g f s ts h v z l r y⟩

Amkima vowels
Front Central Back
Close i /i/ y /y/ u /u/
Mid e /e/ ö /ø/ a /o/

Grammar

SVO with cases

  • -(i)ng: plural
  • -mi: locative
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