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==Uupek== | |||
<poem> | |||
{ng, hng, k, g, x, gh, kʰ, gʰ, ngʰ, k’, kx', ˀg} x {prev, postv, phard uv} x {plain, lab'd} = 72 | |||
{ng, hng, k, g, x, gh, kʰ, gʰ, ngʰ, k’, kx', ˀg} x {velar, uvular} x {plain, r-colored} = 48 | |||
then, uvular trills! | |||
{ʀ, ʀh} x {plain, lab'd} x {plain, r-colored} = 8 | |||
128 in total | |||
{ʀ, ʀh} x {plain, lab'd} x {plain, r-colored. phar'd} = 12 | |||
now pharyngeals and glottals | |||
is ʀˁ possible? | |||
that might actually be an epiglottal | |||
i just wanted to get a 12 | |||
8 should be fine | |||
it doesn't have to be a round number | |||
{ħ, ʕ, ʔ, ʔˁ, ʜ, ʡ, h, ɦ} x {plain, lab} = 16 | |||
should i have glottal affricates? (ʔʰ) | |||
{ħ, ʕ, ʔ, ʔˁ, ʜ, ʡ, h, ɦ, ʔʰ, ʔʰˁ, ʡʰ, ʡ’} x {plain, lab} = 16 | |||
24 sorry | |||
108_12 | |||
108 | |||
is it supposed to be mp3? | |||
R, Rr, Rc.mp3 | |||
it does sound like what i'd expect | |||
that last one is sort of a fricated uvular trill | |||
like a uvular ř | |||
that means i'll include them | |||
110z sounds! (z=dozenal) | |||
now, coronals | |||
dental, alveolar, postalveolar, retroflex, (apicovelar?), palatalized dental, pal'd alveolar, phar'd dental, phar'd alveolar, phar'd retroflex -> 9 POA's and we have many more MOA's | |||
{n, hn, t, d, tʰ/tþ, dʰ/dð, þ, ð, tɬ, dɮ, ɬ, ɮ, nl, hnl, nʰ, nlʰ, t’, tɬ’, tþ’, ˀd, ˀdɮ, ˀdð} = 22 MOA's | |||
or 1Az | |||
9*1A = 146z coronals | |||
+ 110z dorsals = 256z so far | |||
we can add more MOA's | |||
{l, flap, lateral flap} * 9 = 23z more consonants | |||
279z consonants | |||
then, trills! | |||
{r, rh, ř, řh} * {alveolar, phar'd alv, postalv, phar'd retroflex} = 14z | |||
291z consonants | |||
actually sorry | |||
{n, hn, t, d, tʰ/tþ, dʰ/dð, þ, ð, tɬ, dɮ, ɬ, ɮ, nl, hnl, nʰ, nlʰ, t’, tɬ’, tþ’, ˀd, ˀdɮ, ˀdð} * 9 POA's * {plain, labialized} = 9*1A*2 = 290z consonants | |||
290z coronals + 14z trills + 110z dorsals = 3B4z in total | |||
i could have more approximants | |||
just 8 more to get to 400z | |||
i'll propose ɰ̠ ɰ̟ ɰ̟ˤ ɰ̠͡ɻ ɰ̟͡ɻ ɰ̟ˤ͡ɻ ɰ̠ʷ ɰ̟ʷ ɰ̟ˤʷ ɰ̠͡ɻʷ ɰ̟͡ɻʷ ɰ̟ˤ͡ɻʷ | |||
that's 10z though so we have 404z consonants | |||
now, clicks! | |||
{dental, alveolar, fricated alveolar, retroflex, fricated retroflex, alveolar lateral, retroflex lateral, palatal} x {!, g!, !h, g!h, n!, n!h, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar, uvular} x {normal, labialized} = 8x8x2x2 = 194z clicks | |||
affricated clicks: | |||
{dental, alveolar, fricated alveolar, retroflex, fricated retroflex, alveolar lateral, retroflex lateral, palatal} x {!, g!, n!, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar affricate, uvular affricate} x {normal, labialized} = 8x5x2x2 = 44z | |||
that's 218z clicks | |||
we have 620z consonants and no labials! | |||
time to add labials | |||
there can be four degrees of labialization: normal, lip rounding, simultaneous labial, the two previous ones together | |||
that doubles the clicks to 434z | |||
plus labial clicks: | |||
{labial, labiodental} x {!, g!, !h, g!h, n!, n!h, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar, uvular} x {normal, labialized} = 2x8x2x2 = 54z | |||
{labial, labiodental} x {!, g!, n!, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar affricate, uvular affricate} x {normal, labialized} = 2x5x2x2 = 34z that's 88z | |||
sorry | |||
{dental, alveolar, fricated alveolar, retroflex, fricated retroflex, alveolar lateral, retroflex lateral, palatal} x {!, g!, !h, g!h, n!, n!h, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar, uvular} x {normal, rounded, simultaneous labial, sim.labial+rounded} = 8x8x2x4 = 368z clicks | |||
affricated clicks: | |||
{dental, alveolar, fricated alveolar, retroflex, fricated retroflex, alveolar lateral, retroflex lateral, palatal} x {!, g!, n!, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar affricate, uvular affricate} x {normal, rounded, simultaneous labial, sim.labial+rounded} = 8x5x2x4 = 228z | |||
plus labial clicks: | |||
{labial, labiodental} x {!, g!, !h, g!h, n!, n!h, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar, uvular} x {normal, labialized} = 2x8x2x2 = 54z | |||
{labial, labiodental} x {!, g!, n!, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar affricate, uvular affricate} x {normal, labialized} = 2x5x2x2 = 34z that's 88z | |||
368+228+88 = 368+2B4 = 660z clicks | |||
660z + 404z = A64z consonants | |||
158z left | |||
linguolabials! | |||
{n, hn, t, d, tʰ/tþ, dʰ/dð, þ, ð, tɬ, dɮ, ɬ, ɮ, nl, hnl, nʰ, nlʰ, t’, tɬ’, tþ’, ˀd, ˀdɮ, ˀdð} = 1A MOA's in linguolabial -> 1Az consonants | |||
that's A82z in total | |||
Linguolabial clicks: | |||
{linguolabial} x {!, g!, !h, g!h, n!, n!h, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar, uvular} x {normal} = 8x2 = 14z | |||
{linguolabial} x {!, g!, n!, voiceless n!, !ˀ} x {velar affricate, uvular affricate} x {normal} = 5x2 = Az that's 22z | |||
A82+22 = AA4z in total (118z left) | |||
labials! | |||
{m, hm, p, b, ɸ, β, pʰ, bʰ, mʰ, p’, pɸ', ˀb} x {normal, labial} x {normal, palatal, pharyngeal, k̠p, k̟p, qpˁ} = 100z consonants | |||
so we have BA4z consonants | |||
18z more to go! | |||
ʋ ʋʲ ʋˤ ʋʷ ʋʷʲ ʋʷˤ ʙ ʙʲ ʙˤ ʙ̥ ʙ̥ʲ ʙ̥ˤ: 8 more to go | |||
these can be alveolar nonsibilant fricatives | |||
θ̠ θ̠ʷ θ̠ʲ θ̠ʷʲ ð̠ ð̠ʷ ð̠ʲ ð̠ʷʲ | |||
we're done! | |||
1000z consonants | |||
"Uupek" | |||
there are technically gaps in the chart (e.g. no retroflex nonsibilant fricatives) as well as unused combinations (nasalized fricatives ...) | |||
but i'd prefer to stop it at 1000z | |||
vowels: a i u a: i: u: | |||
</poem> | |||
==Future Gelorian== | ==Future Gelorian== | ||
===Consonants=== | ===Consonants=== | ||