Swyr/Swadesh list

Not to be confused with Schwünter.

fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, sjə̤jl, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
coda -l deleted
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
-wC, -jC simplify to -C
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
f- > h-
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S

yes

vowel shift?
yes
monophthongization!
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mu:, sje: (breathy), tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S

at least 4 is not mul smile emoticon
i can't bother tracking vowel length in korean
it's not phonemic for me

well you told me it is a few days ago grin emoticon
it isn't phonemic for many, many people
so vowel length just disappears

could it cause a tone split?

as in Cuatham, but a different one
let's make the long vowels high or rising tones

so high, mid, low and rising

low could be falling
low < breathy
as in cuatham

high, mid, falling, rising

yes

mid could be slightly mid falling

falling = high falling

so it's like upside down Mandarin

or maybe not

vowel length should just disappear
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤t, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

t->ɭ
yes
l- > ɾ-

yes
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

wɨ?

is that a korean diphthong?
that should become something else
as it's not a korean diphthong

a
or wa

grin emoticon
what about wɨ > ə or wə?

wɨ -> we

휄
nope
e + any final doesn't sound sino-korean
wɨ > o?

홃
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

no, that's 7

8 should be 렯
final ㅂ = breathy tone?

it could be one way
that wouldn't work tho
for open syllables
some more initial simplification

it's normally h but 렯 for 8 is an exception
hahaha
I see what you did there
여덟
tj-, !j-, sj > tɕ-, |-, s-
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
kjə doesn't looks sino-korean
kje? ki? ka?

껴

what about khjə?
nââââeeeuw

why?
idea: schnueher could be the sino-korean jokelang
that has all the missing syllables that should be there

켜다 • (kyeoda) (infinitive 켜어, sequential 켜니)
(…을) To light an oil lamp or candle; strike a match or lighter [quotations ▼]
(…을) To turn something on [quotations ▼]
but it's not sino
that's why
yeo, nyeo, ryeo, jeo, cheo are sino
not byeo or gyeo
maybe I should palatalize kj
nope
i need things like gye
and gyo (as in hakgyo 'school')

that's not schnueher tongue emoticon
what about
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

yes
tʰwəm doesn't sound sino-korean either
what do you mean 퉘

thəm?
what about wə > wa first

thwam
then what about 권 as in 태권도
but under that assumption
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

use quell
syllables that are -wol, -won in sino-korean are things like -jwet, -jwen in middle chinese

anyway
then wa > a after labials and coronals
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

isn't it a giblang so you can use nonexistent syllables?
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, gə-S
함, 저, 녁, 무, 세, 탐, 홀, 렬, 볍 (not in sino-korean), 거

Phonology

Inspired by Sino-Korean (rimes) and Irish (initials).

Initials

Swyr/Swadesh list initials

		Labial	Alveolar	Coarticulated	Velar	Uvular	Glottal
Nasal	voiceless	sm, bpr /m̊/	sn, dtr /n̊/	đŧr /ŋ̊!/	gcr /ŋ̊/
	voiced	m, mb /m/	n, nd /n/	nđ /ŋ!/	ng /ŋ/
Stop	tenuis	p /p/	t /t/	ŧ /ǃ/	c /k/		Ø, fh /ʔ/
	aspirated	pr, hp /pʰ/	tr, ht /tʰ/	ŧr, hŧ /ǃʰ/	cr, hc /kʰ/
	voiced	b, bp /b/	d, dt /d/	đ, đŧ /ɡǃ/	g, gc /ɡ/
Fricative	aspirated	f, ph /f/	s /s/	sc, ŧh /ɧ/	ch /x/		h, th, sh /h/
	voiced	bh, bhf, mh /v~w/	ns /z/	nsc, đh /ɧ̬/	dh, gh /ɣ/
Liquid	voiceless		sl /l̥~ɾ̊/			sr /ʀ̊/
	voiced		l /l~ɾ/			r /ʀ/

Rimes

Lifted from Sino-Korean; spelled like Revised Romanization.

Grammar

Nouns

Nouns inflect for two cases, nominative and genitive. The genitive derives from the Ancient Wiebian dative.

Definite article an

Number	Singular		Plural
Gender	Masculine	Feminine	Masculine	Feminine
Nominative	an	an-L	na-N	na-L
Genitive	an-H	na-L	na-H	na-N

Number	Singular		Plural
Gender	Masculine	Feminine	Masculine	Feminine
Nominative	an píl an éup	an gám an yèon	na bpíl na n-éop	na ghám na yèon
Genitive	an hpìl an h-èup	na ghám na yèon	na hpíl na h-éop	na ngám na n-yèon