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(Idea is Praimhín's.) A TimeTraveler-Tricin-Irta crossover. Contrary to its name, it's not meant to be totally unrealistic.
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* it assumes travel between Irta and [[Verse:Tricin/TT-Eevo]] is possible
* a distribution of Celtic languages that differs more from ours (such as a medieval Irish empire stretching as far as our France)
* we assumed that Tricin has other languages that don't exist in Canon Tricin, such as [[Hlou]].


Trician languages on Earth?
'''Crackfic Tricin''' is a Tricin-Irta crossover created by [[User:Praimhín|Praimhín]] and [[User:IlL|Inthar]]. Contrary to its name, it's not meant to be totally unrealistic.
* it assumes travel between [[Verse:Irta]] and a Crackfic version of [[Verse:Tricin]] is possible. Tricin got an influx of Irtan immigrants after the religious turmoil in Europe in Irta's 18th century (the majority of Irtan immigration, though there have been Irta immigrants to Tricin before), and brought along their tech which was more advanced than Tricin at the time (right after the Jeodganite Revolution). This explains why English is dominant in CF Tricin.
* The Bjeheondian sprachbund is more like our Central European one.
* Hetomic, English, Netagin, Irish, Clofabosin and Naquian are the most widely used languages in Crackfic Tricin, and Clofabosin and English are lingua francas.
 
==Todo==
 
Include a weird Irtan dialect of English in addition to Standard English?


==People==
==People==
*Etsoj Jopah -> Tsăhong Starwise (/stɑɹɪz/; /staˈʁis/ in Windermere)
*Etsoj Jopah -> Tsăhong Starwise; he waxes poetic about OIr and not Tigol (/stɑɹɪz/; /staˈʁis/ in Windermere)
*Rewhd Avnin Sgutsis -> Ruth Avon Steele /ʁuð ej'von stil/ (A British-Talman)
*Rewhd Avnin Sgutsis -> Rút na hAbhann-Cruaiche, Tsarfati-Talman ethnomusicologist
*Prăfin fa Bălang -> Pda Fien (Dr. Finn)
*Prăfin fa Bălang -> Pda Fien (Dr. Finn)
*Pda Blin (Dr. Pancake)
*Pda Blin (Dr. Pancake)
*Oyffea Ni Făletbăheartec, creator of An Bhlaoighne
*Anuratha Pathmanaban /ɑnuʁɑ'd̪ɑ pɑd̪mɑnɑˈbɑn/, Indo-Bjeheondian inventor
*Anuratha Padma /ɑnuʁɑ'ðɑ pɑd'mɑ/, Bjeheondian linguist
*Hāṇatocī Vaḷdāka Sarapaṇaṭṭa - Palkhan poet
*Hāṇatocī Vaḷdāka Sarapaṇaṭṭa - Palkhan poet
* P{{cll}}dacnìje el Bejzàvìje - [[Verse:Thab Skawj]]


==Languages==
==Languages==
*Semitic, Camalic, IE, Japanese - spoken by immigrants from Apple PIE
*Semitic, IE, Japanese, Tamil etc. - spoken by immigrants from Irta
**[[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Ăn Yidiș|Ăn Yidiș]], spoken instead of [[Izeweg]]
** Hyperfrench
** Al-Qayljiyyah (Muslim Gaelic), spoken in Muslim parts of Iberia
**Bjeheondian English
**Bjeheondian English
**Onishian English
**Onishian English
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**Dodellian Persian
**Dodellian Persian
**Balang Greek
**Balang Greek
**Onishian Camalic
** Cualand Irish
**Þrwhasian Camalic
** Talman Irish
** Cualand Japanese
**Palkhan Ǎn Yidiș
** Slavic (with the Germanic vocab replaced with Celtic; spoken by early IE immigrants to Tricin), replaces Netagin
*** Old Church Slavonic
**** Slavo-Windermere (''yengsüc Nengscăy'') -- naturally evolved Windermere with lots of Old Church Slavonic vocab
*** Common Slavic
**** Netažin
*Talmic
*Talmic
**Middle Anbirese
**Tigol
*** Judeo-Anbirese
*** Middle Anbirese
**Wiebian (''Altwiebisch''; ''alt'' ~ Eevo orđ 'big', ''Isch'' ~ Eevo ''esg'' 'voice')
**** Judeo-Anbirese
** Ancient Wiebian (''Altwiebisch''; ''alt'' ~ Eevo orđ 'big', ''Isch'' ~ Eevo ''esg'' 'voice')
***a YIVO Yiddish-inspired descendant, ''mingenvibish'' or Modern Wiebian, or ''vibish tzekh an ing'' "Wiebian of the time" spoken in Wieb
***a YIVO Yiddish-inspired descendant, ''mingenvibish'' or Modern Wiebian, or ''vibish tzekh an ing'' "Wiebian of the time" spoken in Wieb
***''Behlwiebisch'', a Boarisch-like Wiebian dialect
***''Behlwiebisch'', a Boarisch-like Wiebian dialect
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***a tonal language inspired by Danish and Vietnamese
***a tonal language inspired by Danish and Vietnamese
* Lakovic
* Lakovic
** Windermere
** Windermere (Terg vernaculars are extinct)
** Tseer
** Tseer (extinct today)
*Crackfic Capetan
*Crackfic Capetan
**"A Tuzzo Lanto"
**"A Tuzzo Lanto"
*Palkhan
*Palkhan
*Hlou, spoken in the Hlou Autonomous Region of Dodellia
* An Bhlaoighne (the original bhlaoighnous version)
* Humpback Welsh (a Cuam-Flei language)
* Humpback Welsh (a Cuam-Flei language)
*Idavic
**Shalaian
*Rhythiazolamide?
===Wiebian===
===Wiebian===


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Bjeheondian English is typically non-rhotic. Windermere-influenced accents realize the syllabic r as a front rounded vowel /ø/, and in unstressed position, /ə/ rather than the native Windermere /ɐ/. Final devoicing is a dialectal feature of certain Wiebian accents.
Bjeheondian English is typically non-rhotic. Windermere-influenced accents realize the syllabic r as a front rounded vowel /ø/, and in unstressed position, /ə/ rather than the native Windermere /ɐ/. Final devoicing is a dialectal feature of certain Wiebian accents.


Stress may differ in Bjeheond due to a mixture of spelling pronunciation, regularization and influences from regional dialects of Apple PIE, often tracing to Greek or Romance languages. Sometimes the Dreimorengesetz is applied synchronically -- e.g. -tion nouns are regularized as in ''attríbution''
Stress may differ in Bjeheond due to a mixture of spelling pronunciation, regularization and influences from regional dialects of Irta, often tracing to Greek or Romance languages. Sometimes the Dreimorengesetz is applied synchronically -- e.g. -tion nouns are regularized as in ''attríbution''


====Trician creole English====
====Trician creole English====
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Onishian non-creole English is entirely an offshoot of an Irta British dialect
Onishian non-creole English is entirely an offshoot of an Irta British dialect
===Cualand English===
Uninhabited before it was settled by Scellans and a few centuries later, by the English (Mavor Tswcyn should have an opinion on this)
Cualand English has three main accents: broad, general and cultivated. Broad Cualand accents have phonemic /x/ as well as lots of Eevo words, like ''eell'' /eɪx/ "love", ''nwtxáh llys'' /nuˈtʃɑxəs/ "hello", ''cain'' /kaɪn/ "food". Even Cualand itself is often referred to simply as ''a Luav''. Eevo words are mostly spelled exactly as in the original.
Words from other Trician languages may appear in Cualand English, like ''Pda'' from Windermere ( ~ ''fundi'' in South African English), and ''quetty'' "cool, remarkable" from Clofabosin.
Cultivated Cualand English is practically our timeline's Estuary or RP British English, and General Cualand English is somewhere in between.
Other common languages in Cualand are Eevo, Dodellian, Windermere, Hivatish, Mandarin (written entirely in pinyin with tone markers; hanzi isn't used in Tricin), Sogdian and Shalaian.
=== Cualand Eevo ===
Cualand Eevo is still spoken by a majority but has a very noticeable British English-esque accent unlike in regular Tricin's Fyxoom. ''b d g'' etc. are often fully voiced. Cualand Eevo doesn't pronounce word final l's and ñ's, e.g. deljađ /deɪjəð/, serñ /sɛɹʊ/. The combinations <hb hd hg> are pronounced as though they were <llb lld llg>, e.g. ahdyn /æxtən/. Some other pronunciations:
*trovihwñ /tɹɔvɪhuː/
*beđ ry /bɛðˈɹɜː/
*Snawhaswel /snaʊhəseɪ/
Sometimes h is dropped in Cualand Eevo, as in Modern Hebrew, so Snawhasewl is pronounced /snaʊəseɪ/ and the Windermere prefix hyl- is simply pronounced /ʊ/.
====Judeo-Eevo====
Hebrew-speaking parts of Cualand have a unique accent of Eevo displaying both Hebrew (+ other Crackfic Trician Jewish languages) phonetic and lexical influence and developments internal to Eevo.
*"segolates" get epenthesized with ɛ instead of ə
*Eevo l is pronounced as in Talman Eevo; this manifests in the Hebrew of native Eevo speakers who use the Eevo l for ayin
===Pida English===
A register of Cualand English with Windermere words with Scellan pronunciation literally all over the place, as well as calques of Classical Windermere phrases and occasionally Classical Windermere syntax (such as topic final-word order). Common in the Mărotłist community
===Cualand Far East Semitic===
Far East Semitic is commonly spoken in the New Andegur region of Fishome. The dominant FES language is the one that's closest to proto-FES.
===Cualand Hebrew===
our timeline's Modern Hebrew with a Hiberno-English accent; influenced more by Wiebic than Irta Modern Hebrew which is more influenced by Ăn Yidiș
*qamatz gadol and qamatz qatan are the same for some speakers, for most speakers QG=patach and QQ!=patach, for a small minority QG=QQ!=patach
*a new phoneme emerges, /θ̠/, which is a lenited form of both tav and tet but it doesn't pattern like the other begadkefat consonants
*heth and ayin as in Modern Hebrew, a minority pronounces heth as ħ when it derives from PSem ħ, but not when it comes from PSem x
*different casual pronunciations - et ha becomes /ɛθ̠ə/; though in some parts of Cualand the first vowel gets dropped as in our timeline
*resh may be a retroflex approximant, alveolar flap or retroflex flap (like in Irtan Modern Hebrew)
*vav and lenited beth become the Hawaiian v~w phoneme, for modern speakers it's /v/
*ani "I" is sometimes pronounced /ɪni/; this is a regionalism in Cualand and is rare nowadays
*tzere and segol are sometimes distinguished in some older Cualand accents as /e:/ and /ɛ/, but these are merged in modern accents. Even in older accents, tzere is realized as /ɛ/ in closed syllables, such as /lɛv/ "heart" and /zɛɻ/ "wreath". Tzere is never a diphthong in Cualand.
*In older Cualand dialects there was a distinction between segol from PSem *a, pronounced /æ/ and segol from PSem *i, pronounced /ɛ/, but these have been merged in the modern language.


=== A Tuzzo Lanto ===
=== A Tuzzo Lanto ===
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=== Talman Jews ===
=== Talman Jews ===
Languages: Judeo-Anbirese
Languages: Judeo-Anbirese
These guys use tropes based on diasem
==== Judeo-Anbirese ====
==== Judeo-Anbirese ====
Preserves Middle Anbirese ''þ'' and ''δ'' (which becomes unaspirated t/z in Modern [[Anbirese]]), slender s > š instead of sje
Preserves Middle Anbirese ''þ'' and ''δ'' (which becomes unaspirated t/z in Modern [[Anbirese]]), slender s > š instead of sje
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/2 b v g ğ d ð h w z H T j k x l m n s 3 p f S q r š t þ/ = [2 b v g g d ð h v z x t= j kh x l n n s ng ph f ts k= r S th þ]
/2 b v g ğ d ð h w z H T j k x l m n s 3 p f S q r š t þ/ = [2 b v g g d ð h v z x t= j kh x l n n s ng ph f ts k= r S th þ]
=== Pokémonlangs ===
A genre of in-universe giblangs where words have aesthetics combining different source languages or layers of a given language
* Eevo Pokémonlang
* Ăn Yidiș Pokémonlang


=== Galoyseg ===
=== Galoyseg ===
{{main|Galoyseg/Crackfic}}
Spoken by Bjeheondian Jews in the Slithy region of Cualand and Bjeheond; written with the Hebrew alphabet
Spoken by Bjeheondian Jews in the Slithy region of Cualand and Bjeheond; written with the Hebrew alphabet


A time traveler Galoyseg (more conservative vowels kept at the stage reflected by Hebrew orthography); same as canon Galoyseg except with Hebrew and Bjeheondian loans
A time traveler [[Galoyseg]] (more conservative vowels kept at the stage reflected by Hebrew orthography); same as canon Galoyseg except with Hebrew and Bjeheondian loans


Galoyseg Hebrew should use ŋ for ayin
Galoyseg Hebrew should use ŋ for ayin


The Hebrew spelling is very conservative and effectively treats PCel as PSem: Proto-Celtic *t that became /s/ becomes tav rafe, Proto-Celtic *ā becomes cholam, and Proto-Celtic *a that became Old Galoyseg *ā becomes qamatz. Hebrew loans are always written fully vocalized.
The Hebrew spelling is very conservative and effectively treats PCel as PSem: Proto-Celtic *t that became /s/ becomes tav rafe, Proto-Celtic *ā becomes cholam, and Proto-Celtic *a that became Old Galoyseg *ā becomes qamatz. Hebrew loans are always written fully vocalized.
טאָבות toves = language
טעות toŋes? = mistake
טאָבות סליתעג toves Sliseg = another name for Galoyseg
נוֹבות אן אוּיסקיד ביב אין דוּר


==Terrestrial terminology in Crackfic-Windermere==
==Terrestrial terminology in Crackfic-Windermere==
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==Religions==
==Religions==
* Tswcynism
* Tswcynism
* [[Verse:Tricin/Neh-Byþin|Hylnehbyþin]], liturgical lang is Fishomian Eevo
* [[Verse:Tricin/Hylnehbyþin|Hylnehbyþin]] (in its early stages; pretty much LW rationalism and Effective Altruism), "liturgical language" is English rather than Eevo as in Canon Tricin
*Buddhism (mainly Netagin speakers)
*Buddhism (mainly Netagin and some Windermere speakers; primarily in Bjeheond, Talma and Etalocin)
**''Imwang'eth Ăfur Smech''
**''Imwang'eth Ăfur Smech''
*Judaism
*Judaism
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*Mărotłism
*Mărotłism
*Ñeðraism
*Ñeðraism
**Snielism
* Snielism
*Christianity
*Christianity
**Bjeheondian Catholic Church (Tar Ăcles Yălămtsor Biechănd), common among Irish-Bjeheondians
** Remonitionist (Multiversalist Church of Cualand)
**Trician Catholic Church (Tar Ăcles Yălămtsor mi Sngeaf), common among Irish-Tricians; however many Irish-Tricians are not Catholic
***Trician saints?
***Trician saints?
** Trician Orthodox Church --- uses Old Church Slavonic
*Syncretic mixes
*Syncretic mixes
**Hivantish Reformed Church - various levels of syncretism with Hivantish paganism; not exclusively Hivantish in Cualand
**Hivantish Reformed Church - various levels of syncretism with Hivantish paganism; not exclusively Hivantish in Cualand
**Snielo-Buddhism (mystical side of Trician Buddhism; uses Mărotłist terminology)
**Snielo-Buddhism (mystical side of Trician Buddhism; uses Mărotłist terminology)
**Snielo-Kabbalah
**Snielo-Kabbalah
**Niemneab (a neo-animist movement with Snielist touches; a common "New Age" religion in Cualand)
**Niemneab (a neo-animist/Druidic movement with Snielist touches; intended as a "reconstruction" of a hypothetical ancient Fishomian paganism, IRL also inspired by traditional Hmong religion)
*Jopahism (an offshoot of Snielism)
*Jopahism (an offshoot of Snielism)
*Oompa-Loompaism (Capetan paganism)
*Oompa-Loompaism (Capetan paganism)
*New Atheism


==Pop culture==
==Pop culture==
*''Keks, Alter Keks'', a misheard song
*''Keks, Alter Keks'', a misheard song
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