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{{PAGENAME}} ({{PAGENAME}}: ''an dòigh Snibhear'' [''an dàe Snyèo''] /ʔán dɛ̀ n̊jʌ̀/; [[Reber Wiebian]]: ''Schnüher-Müđel'') is a Wiebian lect with a Hiberno-Korean aesthetic.
==Numbers==
<poem>
0: ím /ʔím/
1: fám /fám/
2: dyèo(-séimhiú) /dʑʌ̀/
3: nák /nák/
4: đò /ɡǃò/
5: sèong /sʌ̀ŋ/
6: trám /tʰám/
7: réol /ʀʌ́ɭ/
8: làl /ɾàɭ/
9: pryéop /pʰjʌ́p/
10: cá(-séimhiú) /ká/
100: dyéong /dʑʌ́ŋ/
1000: sál /sáɭ/
10000: cryéop /kʰjʌ́p/
10^8: yéong cryéop /ʔjʌ́ŋ kʰjʌ́p/
</poem>
 
==Notes==
<poem>
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, sjə̤jl, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
coda -l deleted
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
-wC, -jC simplify to -C
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
f- > h-
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
 
yes
 
vowel shift?
yes
monophthongization!
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mu:, sje: (breathy), tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
 
at least 4 is not mul smile emoticon
i can't bother tracking vowel length in korean
it's not phonemic for me
 
well you told me it is a few days ago grin emoticon
it isn't phonemic for many, many people
so vowel length just disappears
 
could it cause a tone split?
 
as in Cuatham, but a different one
let's make the long vowels high or rising tones
 
so high, mid, low and rising
 
low could be falling
low < breathy
as in cuatham
 
high, mid, falling, rising
 
yes
 
mid could be slightly mid falling
 
falling = high falling
 
so it's like upside down Mandarin
 
or maybe not
 
vowel length should just disappear
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤t, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
 
t->ɭ
yes
l- > ɾ-
 
yes
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
 
wɨ?
 
is that a korean diphthong?
that should become something else
as it's not a korean diphthong
 
a
or wa
 
grin emoticon
what about wɨ > ə or wə?
 
wɨ -> we
 
nope
e + any final doesn't sound sino-korean
wɨ > o?
 
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
 
no, that's 7
 
8 should be 렯
final ㅂ = breathy tone?
 
it could be one way
that wouldn't work tho
for open syllables
some more initial simplification
 
it's normally h but 렯 for 8 is an exception
hahaha
I see what you did there
여덟
tj-, !j-, sj > tɕ-, |-, s-
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
kjə doesn't looks sino-korean
kje? ki? ka?
 
 
what about khjə?
nââââeeeuw
 
why?
idea: schnueher could be the sino-korean jokelang
that has all the missing syllables that should be there
 
켜다 • (kyeoda) (infinitive 켜어, sequential 켜니)
(…을) To light an oil lamp or candle; strike a match or lighter  [quotations ▼]
(…을) To turn something on  [quotations ▼]
but it's not sino
that's why
yeo, nyeo, ryeo, jeo, cheo are sino
not byeo or gyeo
maybe I should palatalize kj
nope
i need things like gye
and gyo (as in hakgyo 'school')
 
that's not schnueher tongue emoticon
what about
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
 
yes
tʰwəm doesn't sound sino-korean either
what do you mean 퉘
 
thəm?
what about wə > wa first
 
thwam
then what about 권 as in 태권도
but under that assumption
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
 
use quell
syllables that are -wol, -won in sino-korean are things like -jwet, -jwen in middle chinese
 
anyway
then wa > a after labials and coronals
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
 
isn't it a giblang so you can use nonexistent syllables?
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, gə-S
함, 저, 녁, 무, 세, 탐, 홀, 렬, 볍 (not in sino-korean), 거
</poem>
 
==Phonology==
Inspired by Sino-Korean (rimes) and Irish (initials).
===Initials===
{| class="greentable lightgreenbg" style="text-align:center; vertical-align:middle;"
|+'''{{PAGENAME}} initials'''
! colspan="2"|
!Labial
!Alveolar
!Coarticulated
!Velar
!Uvular
!Glottal
|-
! rowspan="2"|Nasal
! | <small>voiceless</small>
|'''sm, hm, bpr''' /m̊/
|'''sn, hn, dtr''' /n̊/
|'''đŧr''' /ŋ̊!/
|'''gcr''' /ŋ̊/
|
|
|-
! | <small>voiced</small>
|'''m, mb''' /m/
|'''n, nd''' /n/
|'''nđ''' /ŋ!/
|'''ng''' /ŋ/
|
|
|-
! rowspan="3"|Stop
! | <small>tenuis</small>
|'''p''' /p/
|'''t''' /t/
|'''ŧ''' /ǃ/
|'''c''' /k/
|
|'''Ø, fh''' /ʔ/
|-
! | <small>aspirated</small>
|'''pr, hp''' /pʰ/
|'''tr, ht''' /tʰ/
|'''ŧr, hŧ''' /ǃʰ/
|'''cr, hc''' /kʰ/
|
|
|-
! | <small>voiced</small>
|'''b, bp''' /b/
|'''d, dt''' /d/
|'''đ, đŧ''' /ɡǃ/
|'''g, gc''' /ɡ/
|
|
|-
! rowspan="2"|Fricative
! | <small>aspirated</small>
|'''f, ph, phr''' /f/
|'''s''' /s/
|'''sc, ŧh, ŧhr''' /ɧ/
|'''ch, chr''' /x/
|
|'''h, th, sh''' /h/
|-
|-
! | <small>voiced</small>
|'''bh, bhf, mh''' /v~w/
|'''ns''' /z/
|'''nsc, đh''' /ɧ̬/
|'''dh, gh''' /ɣ/
|
|
|-
! rowspan="2"|Liquid
! | <small>voiceless</small>
|
|'''sl''' /l̥~ɾ̊/
|
|
|'''sr, thr''' /ʀ̊/
|
|-
! | <small>voiced</small>
|
|'''l''' /l~ɾ/
|
|
|'''r''' /ʀ/
|
|}
 
===Rimes===
Lifted from Sino-Korean; spelled like Revised Romanization. Compared to Sino-Korean, {{PAGENAME}} allows a greater variety of initial-rime combinations.
 
==Grammar==
===Nouns===
Nouns inflect for two cases, nominative and genitive. The genitive derives from the Ancient Wiebian dative.
====Definite article ''an''====
The definite article has a different tone from the syllable following it.
*càe (m): 'bow (object)'
*ák (m): 'garment'
*fyéong (f): 'work'
*èul (f): 'batch'
 
====Definite article ''ein'' (''an'')====
 
{| class="greentable lightgreenbg" style=" text-align: center;"
|-
! style="width: 90px;" | Number
! colspan="2" style="width: 200px;" | Singular
! colspan="2" style="width: 200px;" | Plural
|-
! style="width: 90px;" | Gender
! | Masculine
! | Feminine
! | Masculine
! | Feminine
|-
! Nominative
| ''ein'' (''an'') || ''eine'' (''an''-L) || ''einet'' (''na''-T) || ''einer'' (''na''-L)
|-
! Genitive
| ''eines'' (''an''-H) || ''einer'' (''na''-L) || ''einens'' (''na''-H) || ''einen'' (''na''-N)
|-
! Vocative
| ''ei'' (''a''-L) || ''ei'' (''a''-L) || ''lind'' (''le''-T) || ''lind'' (''le''-T)
|}
 
 
{| class="greentable lightgreenbg" style=" text-align: center;"
|-
! style="width: 90px;" | Number
! colspan="2" style="width: 200px;" | Singular
! colspan="2" style="width: 200px;" | Plural
|-
! style="width: 90px;" | Gender
! | Masculine
! | Feminine
! | Masculine
! | Feminine
|-
! Nominative
| ''an càe''<br/>''an ák'' || ''an fhyéong''<br/>''an èul'' || ''na càe''<br/>''na t-ák'' || ''na fhyéong''<br/>''na èul''
|-
! Genitive
| ''an hcáe''<br/>''an h-àk'' || ''na fhyéong''<br/>''na èul'' || ''na hcàe''<br/>''na h-ák'' || ''na bhfyéong''<br/>''na n-èul''
|-
! Vocative
| ''a cháe!''<br/>''a àk!'' || ''a fhyéong!''<br/>''a èul!'' || ''le càe!''<br/>''le t-ák!'' || ''le fyéong!''<br/>''le t-èul!''
|}
 
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