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Pronunciation /səjiˈdosm̩/
Created by IlL
Setting Verse:Tricin
Language family
  • Idosic
    • Idosian
Writing system Hetmic script
ISO 639-3

Idosian (ee-DOH-see-ən; natively 〈sə〉 səyIdosm /səjiˈdosm̩/ lit. 'the language of the eastern people') is a major Tsimulh language mainly spoken in herIdosm, a country in East Txapoalli. It is one of the more innovative Tsimulh languages.

Idosian is a language with restricted initial consonants. The name is taken from one of Praimhín's conlang sketches.


  • intervocalic ʔ, h after a, ɛ, ɔ, e, o > ɹ
  • intervocalic ʔ, h after i > y, after u > w
  • high i, u > i u
  • e, o > i u
  • First get some hiatusing vowels
  • im, in in closed syllables > am, an
  • p-less: p becomes glottal stop?

there could be a rule where every unstressed syllable gets lenited that would reduce the number of possible initial consonants and if you couple that with post tonic syncope you could get some crazy phonotactics

like no initial clusters or even initial stops but weird tibetan like clusters in the middle of a word

pda-sfëtsiv > hia-zëncm

final ɛ, ɔ, a > i, u, ə, final everything else > Ø?

su-'ųdzəqw > huwózkw (cl 5) = tetrachord

-tspimi = to shine



Idosian is unusual among Tsimulh languages in that it natively has a liquid consonant /ɹ/, whereas Proto-Tsimulh and most other Tsimulh languages do not natively have liquids. Idosian gained /ɹ/ via R-intrusion, under the influence of neighboring Shalian.

Modern Idosian has 26 consonants:

Labial Alveolar Palatal Velar Uvular Glottal
central lateral plain labialized plain labialized
Nasal m /m/ n /n/ ŋ /ŋ/
Stop plain t /t/ k /k/ kw /kʷ/
voiced b /b/ d /d/ g /g/ gw /gʷ/
Affricate c /ts/ ξ /tɬ/ č /tʃ/
Fricative voiceless f /f/ s /s/ σ /ɬ/ š /ʃ/ x /x/ xw /xʷ/ ħ /χ/ ħw /χʷ/ h /h/
voiced z /z/ ž /ʒ/
Approximant r /ɹ~ʋ/ l /l/ y /j/ w /w/

m n ŋ can be syllabic.

r cannot occur word-initially.


Idosian vowels
Front Central Back
Close i /i/ ə /ɨ~ɘ/ u /u/
Mid e /e/ o /o/
Open a /a/

/ə(ɹ) a(ɹ) e(ɹ) i(ɹ) i(j) o(ɹ) u(ɹ) u(w)/ < Pre-Idosian ə a e i î o u û /ə a e ɪ i̝ o ʊ u̝/ < Proto-Tsimulh /a ą e į i ę ų u/


No initial clusters or stops are allowed, but after a stressed syllable anything goes.


Idosian is written in an orthography which lacks a letter for /ɹ/.


Like many Tsimulh languages, Idosian has remnants of a Bantu-style noun class system.

Idosian morphology is more complex than that of other Tsimulh languages due to syncope of the various prefix elements.

Also, Idosian has cases due to Shalian influence.