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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' (''Wieb-Muts'' [''Vạp Mã''] or ''Reber-Muts'' [''Rạp Mã'']) is a Wiebian dialect continuum that includes Modern Standard [[Wiebian]] (both the European and the North American varieties). It is often simply called "Wiebian" in-universe.
Indo-European pseudo-Hmong?
==Words==
*good: ''wick'' (''vệch'')
*I am king: ''Nu luh Hauer.'' (''Nà là ho.'')


==Numbers==
-g -Ø -m -s -b -v -j -d = cases
va:m, dɪɧɐ, naɐ̯k, !au, ze:lɪɧ, ʃtu:m, ʀaut, lɛɐ̯ts, pfaɐ̯p, ki:ɐ̯


væ:m, dɛɧ, naɐ̯k, !au, ze:ʟəɧ, ʃtu:m, ʀəut, lɛɐ̯ts, pfaɐ̯p, ki:ɐ̯
(nom, voc, acc, gen, dat, instr, loc, abl)
 
ve:m, dɛɧ, naak, !oo, zi:ʟəɧ, ʃtaum, ʀaut, ljaats, pfaap, kaiɐ
 
ve:m, dɛɧ, naak, !oo, zi:ŋɧ, tʰaum, ʕaut, ljaas, faap, kaiɐ
 
fe:m (l -p m), ɗɛj (l -p b), naak (l -p g), !oo (h -p m), si:ŋ (l -p b), tʰaum (h -p m), 'aut (l -p g), ljaa (l -p b), faap (h -p g), kaiɐ (h -p m)
 
*1 ''wahm'': ''viềm''
*2 ''discher'': ''đẫy''
*3 ''narg'': ''nộc''
*4 ''muhl'': ''màng''
*5 ''sälisch'': ''xỡng''
*6 ''stuom'': ''thim''
*7 ''rut'': ''ứt''
*8 ''lerz'': ''lỡ''
*9 ''pfarb'': ''vốp''
*10 ''kior'': ''ra''
*100 ''däll'': ''đầng''
*1000 ''seit'': ''xượt''
*10000 ''krüeb'': ''kệp''
*11 (dozenal): ''gepfod'': ''phứt''
*12 (dozenal): ''gepfemm'': ''phâm''
*12^2 ''zann'': ''xăn''
*12^3 ''uog'': ''ích''
 
==Letters==
*T: Trabe > tˁɑɑp > độp
*G: Galst > galʔ > kwaʔ > quạ
*K: Kohl > kool > koow (h -p m) > củ > cư
*W: Wier > vjaʔ > vaʔ > vạ > vơ
*N: Narch > naaç > naaj (l -p b) > noi > nổi
*Q: Kried > qˁeit > keit (h +p g) > kiệt
*L: Lecken > *Leck > EMW lek > LMW lek (l -p g) > lậc
*P: Pfut > faut > ... > vát
*C: Ang > ʔaŋ > ăng
*Ŧ: Ŧeib > ǃeip (Canadian raising!) > chiếp
*J: Jamm > dằm
*F: Fitt - pretty sure it's vết
*M: Mersch > maa (l -p b) > mả > mở
*D: Dachel > EMW daxu > LMW ɗoo (l -p b) (with compensatory lengthening) > đủ > đử
*Đ: Đruche > EMW g!ˁoux > !ow (l +p b) > !xẻo > chảo
*R: Rift > EMW ʕeft > ʔew (l +p g) > ếu > éo
*S: Schnade > nʰeit > ... > niết
*ß: Discherschnader > *discher Schnade > đẫy niết
*H: Hammel > hamu > hom (h -p m) > hỏm > hôm
*B: Bruog > EMW bˁook > ɓook (l +p +g) > bức
*Z: Zamm > xăm
*I: *ii > ai > ai > aa > ưa
*U: uu > au > au > ea > a
*E: ee > ii > ii > ơi?
*O: oo > uu > uu > yy > i
*A: aa > ei > ia > ia
 
==Phonology==
Based on Vietnamese. Pinyin in '''bold'''.
===Consonants===
{| class="bluetable lightbluebg " style="width: 700px; text-align: center;"
|+ '''Reber Wiobian consonants (Hauerreberjamms)'''
! colspan="2"|  
! | Labial
! | Dental
! | Alveolar
! | Click
! | Palatal
! | Velar
! | Uvular
! | Glottal
|-
! colspan="2" | Nasal
| '''m''' /m/
| '''n''' /n̪/
|
|
| '''nh''' /ɲ/
| '''ng''' /ŋ/
|
|
|-
! rowspan="2" |Plosive
! | <small>plain</small>
| '''p''' /p/
| '''t''' /t̪/
|
| '''tr''' /ǃ/
| '''ch''' /c~tɕ/
| '''c, qu''' /k/
| '''k''' /q/
| '''Ø''' /ʔ-/
|-
! | <small>implosive</small>
| '''b''' /ɓ/
| '''đ''' /ɗ/
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-
! rowspan="2" |Fricative
! | <small>voiceless</small>
|
|
| '''x''' /s/
| '''s''' /ɧ/
|
|
|
| '''h''' /h/
|-
! | <small>voiced</small>
| '''v''' /v/
| '''d''' /ð/
| '''gi''' /z/
|
|
| '''g''' /ɣ/
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Affricate
| '''ph''' /pf/
| '''th''' /ts/
|
|
|
| '''kh''' /kx/
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Trill
|
|
| '''r''' /r/
|
|
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Approximant
| '''ł, o, u''' /w/
|
| '''l''' /l/
|
| '''j''' /j/
|
|
|
|}
 
===Vowels===
{| class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="text-align: center;"
|-
! &nbsp;
! Front
! Central
! Back
|-
! Close
| '''i, y''' /i/
| '''ư''' /ɨ/
| '''u''' /u/
|-
! Close-mid
| '''ê''' /e/
| '''ơ''' /ɤ/
| '''ô''' /o/
|-
! Open-mid
| '''e''' /ɛ/
| '''â''' /ə̆/
| '''o''' /ɔ/
|-
! Open
| colspan="3" | '''ă''' /ă/ '''a''' /a/
|}
 
==LMW > Early Reber Wiebian==
===An Bhlaoighne-style tone mergers===
<poem>
-phar:
h -p b: hoi
h -p g: sac
h -p m: ngang
l -p b: nga
l -p g: nang
l -p m: huyen
+phar:
h +p b: huyen
h +p g: nang
h +p m: hoi
l +p b: ngang
l +p g: sac
l +p m: nga
</poem>
 
===Consonant shift===
 
===Vowel shifts===
<poem>
I need Late Middle Wiebian (placeholder name) > Early Viet gib Wieb
Perhaps I'll start with au > eaa
because we need luh > là
 
funny that even the tone matches
Sie should become 'shi' in your chinese gib
zi: > zaj > zʲeai > Si (central vowel) > shi
 
/ʂɻ̩/
all the same tone!
 
yes
that would make a great Chinese parody
I should have a language named Shi
1: shi1
2: shi4
3: shi2
4: shi4
5: shi3
6: shi4
7: shi1
8: shi3
9: shi1
10: shi2
 
how do you tell the difference between 1, 7 and 9?
it's a jokelang
 
grin emoticon
like everything in Kuusi Palaa is "kuusi palaa"
 
yes
ɑɑ > ɔɔ
ææ > eə̆
 
btw the word for 'not' in Gussnish, 'owwan' is just the exlocative of 'la'
is o-S the exlocative?
or was it on-?
 
ow-S(genitive)
sorry
ow-
 
æn / sæn
me / ow
rø / tsø
λø / ød
?? / ??
in / not in
with / without
?? / ??
 
to / not to (used in negative imperatives)
in / not in
with / without
like / unlike
the first two don't trigger séimhiú but the rest do
jia > iə
ɥa, ɥø > wiə (uya, uyê-)
Zürde ('offering') > xuyết
 
nice!
ɥa, ɥø, ɥya > wiə
I probably won't be able to get all the viet rimes
wo wua > uə
actually
ɥa > wɛ?
ɥø > we
yy > uy
/wi/
oo > ô:
> u:
uu > ɨɨ
ou > ô:?
ei > ê:?
øy > ơ:?
ai > ay in open syllables, ɛ: in closed?
same for ay
au > au in open syllables, ɔ: o in closed?
jaa sounds like eaa from au
let's merge them
waa > oa /wa:/
ɥaa > ?
 
ưa?
that's a good idea
əa > ə:
øø > ə:?
 
ơi?
the problem: where do I get -j finals?
I should have vowel reflexes specific to open syllables
 
yes
or have AW -l -> -j
like in Viet
 
how?
Viet cây (tree) ~ Mương câl
Viet mười < Proto-Vietic *maal
some -j finals are not allowed in vietnamese
for example after /e/
 
just merge them
về ~ Muong wềl
 
*êy -> ê
that's one option
or alter the nucleus
 
êy -> ây?
*êy > ơi
 
yes
we went over
ɑ > o
æ > ă
e. ø > â
i > ê
o > o
u > ô
y > ơ
ii should move out of the way
to a diphthong
ơi?
øø > ươi(?)
i forgot wa > oă
perhaps ei ou øy should become ơi ơu ơi
in open syllables
I need to look at each Viet rime and ask "how can I get it?"
don't care much about oeo, uyu
viet does have quẹo
i can get -w from -f and -ft
</poem>
 
==Grammar==
===Copula===
The copula is ''luh'' (''là'' - just like in Vietnamese!).
 
===Pronouns===
====Correlatives====
*''mahr'': like this
*''ahr'': like that
*''jahr'': how?
 
[[Category:Wiebic languages]][[Category:Pfeunic languages]]

Latest revision as of 18:11, 11 July 2018

Indo-European pseudo-Hmong?

-g -Ø -m -s -b -v -j -d = cases

(nom, voc, acc, gen, dat, instr, loc, abl)