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Spanish style Pronoun dropping through conjugation. Isolating ala. Vulgar latin, Direct alignment as in Galavic will probably be kept. Mutations however are a distinctly Galavic innovation (Though some form may exist amongst the Kergans).
Spanish style Pronoun dropping through conjugation. Isolating ala. Vulgar latin, Direct alignment as in Galavic will probably be kept. Mutations however are a distinctly Galavic innovation (Though some form may exist amongst the Kergans).


Proto-Pyrittyl; Closely related to Galavic, the major difference is that Pyrittyl never developed the hatred for consonant clusters or mutations/leniting.
====Proto-Pyrittyl====
 
The information here refers more closely to the final product of Toryl as a language produced and deriving ultimately from the Western Borealis Language family, ultimately reverse engineered from Fayn. The goal is to have it resemble the above but comprises will be made, what is below is the grammatical frame work for what should be the under pinnings but it will be necessary to branch further out into So'raan before the language is in a final format. What is here currently can be considered notes for a proto-Toryl similar to a wholly Latin French or German English.
 
Closely related to Galavic, the major difference is that Pyrittyl never developed the hatred for consonant clusters or mutations/leniting.


Major sound changes;
Major sound changes;
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Grammar:
Grammar:


"Lun ladaen de aen ril taenae pelgaer do taal yr"
*"Lun ladaen de aen ril taenae pelgaer do taal yr"
"A thousand roads to a hill is the story of the world"
*"A thousand roads to a hill is the story of the world"
*[This is one of the few written sentances in Northern-Pyrittyl prior extinction and assimilation into Toryl, it is recorded by a contemporary who claims that this was a expression of those communities that refers to how people tend to get worked up over nothing and responding to the long standing claim that a thousand roads pass through Toryl.]


*Gender: Singular Verbs where the final vowel is a, e, ae, y, yy or y are feminine, if the final vowel is o, u or oe, aa, then the vowel is masculine. Pluralization
*Gender: Singular Verbs where the final vowel is a, e, ae, y, yy or y are feminine, if the final vowel is o, u or oe, aa, then the vowel is masculine. Pluralization may change the final vowel, but the gender remains that of the singular case.
*"aen" and "do" fill rolls of "un" and "de" in French [both one/a and from/possessive]
*"aen" and "do" fill rolls of "un" and "de" in French [both one/a and from/possessive]
*Verb conjugations;
*Verb conjugations;
** Present -[h]o/u, -[n]e, -[n]ae/aa, -[s]is/ys, -[n]ar, -[h]os/yys
** Present -[n]o/u, -[n]e, -[n]ae/aa, -[s]is/ys, -[n]ar, -[h]os/yys
** Past- [n]or/ur, -[n]er, -[n]aer/aar, -[s]in/yn, -[n]an, -[h]on/yyn
** Past- [n]or/ur, -[n]er, -[n]aer/aar, -[s]in/yn, -[n]an, -[h]on/yyn
** Future- [h]od/ud, -[n]ed, -[n]aed/aad, -[n]in/yd, -[n]ad, -[s]ot/yyd
** Future- [h]od/ud, -[n]ed, -[n]aed/aad, -[n]in/yd, -[n]ad, -[s]ot/yyd
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*SVO order, though S is usually dropped except in third person where it needs to be indicated.
*SVO order, though S is usually dropped except in third person where it needs to be indicated.
*Pluralization; Infixed ending;
*Pluralization; Infixed ending;
a->e->ae->yy
**a->e->ae->yy
o->oe/uy/aa->u->i/y->yy
**o->oe/uy/aa->u->i/y->yy [o->oe->u->i->yy, other vowels are not pluralized to, only from]
In Words ending in y in their singular form, an "a" is affixe to the word ending.
**In Words ending in y in their singular form, an "a" is affixed to the word ending.
*Yes and No exist in Toryr and Pyrittyl languages, usually derived from the roots of "Yyd" [this] and "[n]ae" [negative copula]. Yyl an Ael in Toryl.
*Yes and No exist in Toryr and Pyrittyl languages, usually derived from the roots of "Yyd" [this] and "[n]ae" [negative copula]. Yyl an Ael in Toryl.
*Prepostions: daer, do, del, de, rel, kin, ru, kor, ke, ku, nir, etc, etc.
*Prepostions: daer, do, del, de, rel, kin, ru, kor, ke, ku, nir, etc, etc.
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*No Voicing distinction in stops [b/p, t/d, k/g].
*No Voicing distinction in stops [b/p, t/d, k/g].
*Prone to contraction: Syllable/Vowel dropping.
*Prone to contraction: Syllable/Vowel dropping.
--
'Res kioni, e taino naotos, ven at rel ion eorun titol pon at tailos rasico rel at tailos teo tainos a tainos teo tailos 'kreilo?"
"I ask you, is not a that which is a lie more than than an evil itself, for it harms life by taking life from truth and truth from life."
Note; This takes directly from the Collemosian proto-language rather than from Castrian in order to experiment with sound changes.
*-[o]s male noun ending, -[a]n female noun ending.
*Time prefix, Suffix Gender, Auxiliary Mood/Anything Else.
*S-O-V order.
*May crush in some Declension, if only because "Pon" "Rel" and a handful of other prepositions seem immune to most of my sound changes.


==Zewani==
==Zewani==

Latest revision as of 21:36, 31 August 2019

Notes/Other:

Essential Notes on Languages:

  • Fén Ghír is essentially Japanese as spoken by primary students in Gaelscoil learning it from a teacher making it up as she goes along.
  • Cwengâr is essentially a drunken Japaneseman immitating Welsh as he believes it is spoken by the native sheep of the region.
  • Toryl is essentially a drunken Spaniard trying to reinvent Quenya from three year old memories of the film.
  • Lihaer is essentially the same drunken Japaneseman trying to reinvent Sindarin in order to impress the Spaniard.

Toryl

  • Final syllable "u" and "i" are Masculine/Feminine endings respectively.
  • -yl: ish/ic, may become Adjective/Genitive Form.
Consonants
Labial Alveolar Post-Alveolar Velar Glottal
Nasal m n
Stop p b t d k g
Fricative v s h
Affricate ʃ/ʒ(?)
Approximant
Trill r
Lateral app. l

Seem to be the common sounds. Combination of consonants seems to be rare but invovle: "nd", "nt", "nch", "rt", "tr","rr" & "ch" (tʃ).

"rr" could be a different sort of r, similar to the uvular ʀ of Cwengâr.

Vowels are y, ɯ, ɪ, ʏ, ʊ̈, e, ɜ, a, ä, ɑ.

Spanish style Pronoun dropping through conjugation. Isolating ala. Vulgar latin, Direct alignment as in Galavic will probably be kept. Mutations however are a distinctly Galavic innovation (Though some form may exist amongst the Kergans).

Proto-Pyrittyl

The information here refers more closely to the final product of Toryl as a language produced and deriving ultimately from the Western Borealis Language family, ultimately reverse engineered from Fayn. The goal is to have it resemble the above but comprises will be made, what is below is the grammatical frame work for what should be the under pinnings but it will be necessary to branch further out into So'raan before the language is in a final format. What is here currently can be considered notes for a proto-Toryl similar to a wholly Latin French or German English.

Closely related to Galavic, the major difference is that Pyrittyl never developed the hatred for consonant clusters or mutations/leniting.

Major sound changes;

Some sonorant and nasal clusters which were dropped in Galavic were kept in Pyrittyl, usually with the "d/t" stops; rt, nd, dr, etc. occur. There's also no merging mutation that makes a CV-CVC sound like in Fayn, thus CVC-CVC words are common, though nasal-stop/stop-nasal combinations are avoided with the second consontant dropped [n'g, m'p, etc.] thus campaign would be pronounced "Camaen" in Toryr.

The final letter consonant were softed from stop to a fricative while initial fricatives have been usually fortified to stops in Pyrittyl roots. Toryl and Late Pyrittyl loanwords [particularly So'raan] are unaffected by this.

Grammar:

  • "Lun ladaen de aen ril taenae pelgaer do taal yr"
  • "A thousand roads to a hill is the story of the world"
  • [This is one of the few written sentances in Northern-Pyrittyl prior extinction and assimilation into Toryl, it is recorded by a contemporary who claims that this was a expression of those communities that refers to how people tend to get worked up over nothing and responding to the long standing claim that a thousand roads pass through Toryl.]
  • Gender: Singular Verbs where the final vowel is a, e, ae, y, yy or y are feminine, if the final vowel is o, u or oe, aa, then the vowel is masculine. Pluralization may change the final vowel, but the gender remains that of the singular case.
  • "aen" and "do" fill rolls of "un" and "de" in French [both one/a and from/possessive]
  • Verb conjugations;
    • Present -[n]o/u, -[n]e, -[n]ae/aa, -[s]is/ys, -[n]ar, -[h]os/yys
    • Past- [n]or/ur, -[n]er, -[n]aer/aar, -[s]in/yn, -[n]an, -[h]on/yyn
    • Future- [h]od/ud, -[n]ed, -[n]aed/aad, -[n]in/yd, -[n]ad, -[s]ot/yyd

[The vowels are related to the pronouns, the consonants are aesthetic and based on what seemed to sound fitting with them in order to have them be distinguishable]

  • Adjective Ending: -il/-yl
  • SVO order, though S is usually dropped except in third person where it needs to be indicated.
  • Pluralization; Infixed ending;
    • a->e->ae->yy
    • o->oe/uy/aa->u->i/y->yy [o->oe->u->i->yy, other vowels are not pluralized to, only from]
    • In Words ending in y in their singular form, an "a" is affixed to the word ending.
  • Yes and No exist in Toryr and Pyrittyl languages, usually derived from the roots of "Yyd" [this] and "[n]ae" [negative copula]. Yyl an Ael in Toryl.
  • Prepostions: daer, do, del, de, rel, kin, ru, kor, ke, ku, nir, etc, etc.

So'raan

  • n feminine endings, -s masculine endings. a,e,i v. o,u masc/fem distiction may exist.
  • Similar sort of Vulgar Latin Grammar to Toryl but with more Greek influence [Need research for this on my end]. Maybe prefixed or infixed cases.
  • No Voicing distinction in stops [b/p, t/d, k/g].
  • Prone to contraction: Syllable/Vowel dropping.

-- 'Res kioni, e taino naotos, ven at rel ion eorun titol pon at tailos rasico rel at tailos teo tainos a tainos teo tailos 'kreilo?" "I ask you, is not a that which is a lie more than than an evil itself, for it harms life by taking life from truth and truth from life."

Note; This takes directly from the Collemosian proto-language rather than from Castrian in order to experiment with sound changes.

  • -[o]s male noun ending, -[a]n female noun ending.
  • Time prefix, Suffix Gender, Auxiliary Mood/Anything Else.
  • S-O-V order.
  • May crush in some Declension, if only because "Pon" "Rel" and a handful of other prepositions seem immune to most of my sound changes.

Zewani

  • The common "r"s of Toryl have partially transitioned to "l" clusters. (So'raan is in the middle and inconclusive)
  • Slightly more Anglicised/Germanic grammar, auxiliaries and etc.
    • No Gender difference.
    • Possible mixing of Cases/Tenses of Huon with simplified Auxiliaries/Adpositions.
  • Development of "J".

Eramos Languages

  • Essentially, Eralih should look like what would happen if the Incans colonized the Spanish.
  • Hainic/Saremitas should look like the Inuit version of this, spoken by Inuits and Manchurians respectively.
  • Dussarit should look like Eralih applied to the sound rules of Ze'raani [proto-Zewani-So'raan] or So'raan.

Meiya

Essentially a Japanese Cipher with Chinese Phonology and some Anglophonic simplifications. Changes may be made, probably in favour of the Chilai dialect.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ud27CnLq89j6q_bXQF0eN3yDKBPqAowD89U8a9jbF30/edit

Kergan

It should look wierd & forbidding. Possibly with use of Mutations, Tones and wierd forbidding grammatical features which scare little English Children.