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Tsarfati music is stylistically halfway between our Ashkenazi music (due to Irta Eastern European music being similar to our timeline's) and Irish folk music. | Tsarfati music is stylistically halfway between our Ashkenazi music (due to Irta Eastern European music being similar to our timeline's) and Irish folk music, and influenced First Remonitionist music. | ||
Before the Tsarfati Enlightenment, rhythmic elements from Irish prosody, such as Scotch snaps, used to be considered a regionalism, because most dialects of An Yidis do not have vowel length. However, during the Tsarfati Enlightenment period, Irta Irish elements including Irish prosody became a trend. This was less strong in areas where Hasidism was popular. | Before the Tsarfati Enlightenment, rhythmic elements from Irish prosody, such as Scotch snaps, used to be considered a regionalism, because most dialects of An Yidis do not have vowel length. However, during the Tsarfati Enlightenment period, Irta Irish elements including Irish prosody became a trend. This was less strong in areas where Hasidism was popular. |
Revision as of 08:45, 12 May 2022
One theme (in continental Europe): non-common practice uses of 12edo, 5-limit JI, meantone, or diatonic edo tunings
Azalic music
Azalic music is built up on similar principles to ancient Greek music theory, but they divide string lengths into constructible ratios which aren't always rational. The most common tunings used in Azalic music divide a JI interval, most commonly 2/1, 3/2 or 12/7, into 16 equal parts, and various MOS subsets of these are used for melody, particularly Lemba, Mavila, and Magic temperaments.
Common Mavila scales used in Azalic music are the Antilocrian mode, 3 2 2 3 2 2 2, and the seventh mode of the harmonic minor, 3 2 3 2 2 3 1.
In Irtan cultures outside the Azalic Urheimat but influenced by Azalic culture, 16ed12/7, and its octave equivalent counterpart 41edo, became the most prominent tuning whereas Irta's North Africa (the Azalic Urheimat) mostly uses variations on 16 tone octave equivalent and related scales. Crannish music, which is generally polyphonic, uses harmonic series approximations to 16edo.
Azalic scales directly influenced the music of Irta's Southern United States and Mexico.
Irta Irish classical music
"If Irish/Scottish folk music is the same as in our timeline what would Irish elite music be like"
Irta Irish Renaissance music
Should be a development of sung bardic poetry, with French Renaissance influences
Irish Counter-Remonition
Tuning: Fixed pitch instruments are tuned to 5 to 10 note subsets of 2-3 chains of Pyth fifths separated by 5/4, commas are intentionally used. At some point this is standardized to 34edo
Names for the tuning standard and notes relative to it (like how Arabs don't use all 24 notes of 24edo)
Irta Irish Romanticism
post-2nd Rem
Albionian and folk Irish music influences, Irish lieder are a tradition along with French and Azalic English ones (reaction to excesses of the Counter-Remonition period)
In literature, nature poetry makes a comeback
Western European music
Three distinct classical styles emerge in Western Europe in Irta, all of which are popular. The first two arise directly out of Remonitionism -- the style that arises from the First Remonition is a neo-medievalism derived from the music of various Italic-speaking cultures as well as Tsarfati Jewish music, but Second Remonitionist music is much more meditative and chanting/intoned singing-based. European Christian music (except Irish classical music) is the same as in our timeline up to the First Remonitionist Reformation in the 16th c.
Should be heavily influenced by Azalic culture by the end of 2nd Remonition
Irta Baroque
A neo-medievalist movement which develops in France, Spain and Italy, "what if Baroque used 17edo/17wt"
Baroque dance suites in 17edo which use Baroque dance rhythms but not our Baroque harmony; canons and fugues, but not using Fuxian counterpoint
2-part counterpart likes resolving to fifths and uses tons of Machaut cadences (Eb-G -> D-A, Ed-Gt -> D-A, E-G# -> D-A)
Nowadays First Remonitionist styles are much more popular in Riphea, Riphean colonies and Cualand.
John Wellwise /wɛlɪz/ is the counterpoint guy (interpreting "Fuxian" as Mandarin 富賢)
Irta Baroque trends
Bleu temperament often shows up as an attempt to capture an "Azalic" sound in a 17edo framework
Second Remonitionist music
Early Second Remonitionist musical styles are derived from Greek Buddhist chanting and Azalic polyphonic traditions found in Irta, and follows a system of four roughly equal divisions of a perfect fifth. (Incidentally this is very similar to our timeline's Georgian music)
Both practices were dominant among Remonitionists who first migrated to Tricin, and the most common musical system among Remonitionists in Cualand is 41edo.
Classical and Romantic music
Classical and Romantic music are very similar to our timeline.
Triadic polyphony in Irta evolved mainly from folk adaptations of Second Remonitionist polyphony, with melodic tendencies as in our timeline's "expressive intonation" resulting in a roughly 12 tone division of the octave. A notable difference is that the piano isn't as prominent -- in contrast, string ensembles and voice are given precedence which makes the classical idea of intonation in Irta much more fluid than in our timeline, with theorists often acknowledging subtle variations of a note, and there are various proposals to explain intonation in Irtan classical music.
Many composers in Irta regard fixed pitch instruments as inadequate for capturing the nuances of intonation. and these composers mostly write for strings, voice, and trombone. Some developed cross-fingering techniques for woodwinds to better approximate expressive intonation.
Interestingly this results in Irtan Western classical music being thought of as one of the prominent microtonal world traditions and there are various myths across Irta about the number of notes in Western music, 35 being a commonly cited number.
Arabic
No maqam 3ajam in places that use a 17edo-based theory; Irta's maqam 3ajam comes from 5-limit major in Irta Irish theory, often approximated with 34edo
Corsican
Sean-nós style in Arabic maqams, this style is called ānə (cognate to Maltese għana) in Corsican Arabic
New maqams
Some maqams named after Irish or Celtic places or scales in Irta Irish classical music
More maqams with Arabic names like "Rahat Al Arwah"
Irta Irish borrows maqām names (via Corsican Arabic, e.g. Rāhatı alı-Arvēh) and the term megāmı itself, and translates other maqam terms
Tsarfati
Tsarfati music is stylistically halfway between our Ashkenazi music (due to Irta Eastern European music being similar to our timeline's) and Irish folk music, and influenced First Remonitionist music.
Before the Tsarfati Enlightenment, rhythmic elements from Irish prosody, such as Scotch snaps, used to be considered a regionalism, because most dialects of An Yidis do not have vowel length. However, during the Tsarfati Enlightenment period, Irta Irish elements including Irish prosody became a trend. This was less strong in areas where Hasidism was popular.
Tuning
Intonation often happens by ear and is not necessarily JI-based (cf. maqam music). Tuning systems used differ by the individual community. Fixed pitch instruments use various primodal scales and detempered 34edo. Neutral intervals are commonly used as in maqam.
Liturgy uses diatonic or maqam modes:
- Torah readings use Mixolydian or Jiharkah
- Haftarot use Aeolian or Nairuz
- Non-Eicha Megillot use Dorian or Rast
- Esther uses this melody (except parts where the Eicha melody is used): https://www.virtualcantor.com/Esther1.mp3
- Eicha uses Phrygian or Bayati
- Most blessings use the same scales as our Ashkenazim do
- Some blessings and prayers use a tuning of Lydian with a supermajor 3rd
Todo: Cantillation tropes
Folk music
Tsarfati Jewish folk songs are known as טאָנתּאן dontăn in Ăn Yidiș (singular טאָן don; cognate to Irish dán 'poem (among other meanings)'). They may be in Ăn Yidiș or in a macaronic mixture of Ăn Yidiș, Hebrew, and other languages. They have some traditional Hivantish, our timeline's Eastern European, and our timeline's Irish elements but are unique. Like in our timeline, Hasidic Judaism is also an influence with its emphasis on dancing, devotion, and wordless melodies.
Instruments from Gaelic music:
- pib-ilăn - uilleann pipes
- fehăł (from in-universe OIr **fethal, from Early Romance *vitola) - fiddle
- cłorșăch - a version of the Welsh triple harp adapted to common Tsarfati scales (If you say "Jew's harp" in Irta they'd likely think you mean this.)
Instruments from Hivantish music:
- șeyņăł - kantele
Other instruments, often used in larger ensembles:
- harpsichord -- a staple of Irta klezmer
- organ
- tromba marina and horns for harmonic series scales
Modern cłorșăchăn are usually electro-acoustic.
Talma
Hebrew cantillation
Based on oneirotonic, uses modes such as LLLSLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LSLLSLLS, LSLSLSAS, LSLSLLLS, SLSLLSLL, with varying tunings which can change when singing; marimbas are common in synagogues
Cualand
Hebrew cantillation
Cantillation tropes in Cualand are diatonic, LCJI-based, or overtone scale-based. Some melodies use Locrian. Doctrinally Judaism is no more weird than the full range of Rabbinic Judaism in our timeline.
Primodality
Evolution
Primodality is invented in Cualand. Like in our timeline, primodality is chord-scale theory applied to overtone scales. In Irta, chord-scale theory arises within the Irta Arab maqam tradition (which has a standardized abstract gamut) whereas the original maqam culture survives in other cultures such as Turkic and Corsican music.