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/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/
/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/
== Indo-Arabic ==
== Arabic ==
=== "Culturally Indian Arabic" ===
=== "Culturally Indian Arabic" ===
q k g {{gh}} {{ng}}  
q k g {{gh}} {{ng}}  
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=== "Indian MSA analogous to Indian English" ===
=== "Indian MSA analogous to Indian English" ===
2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y
2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y
== Hiberno-Arabic analogous to Hiberno-English ==
=== Hiberno-Arabic analogous to Hiberno-English ===
{{aleph}}+ b+ t+~θ+ t+~θ+ d{{ž}}+ h{{phar}} x d+ d+ r{{vel}} z+ s+ {{sh}}+ s{{vel}} z{{vel}} d{{vel}} z{{vel}} {{aleph}}{{phar}} {{gh}} f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+
{{aleph}}+ b+ t+~θ+ t+~θ+ d{{ž}}+ h{{phar}} x d+ d+ r{{vel}} z+ s+ {{sh}}+ s{{vel}} z{{vel}} d{{vel}} z{{vel}} {{aleph}}{{phar}} {{gh}} f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+


(+ = causes following a u ā ū to become e ü e:~æ: ü:)
(+ = causes following a u ā ū to become ɛ ʊ̈ e:~æ: ü:)
 
# [bɪsmɪˈl:ɛ:hɪ r{{vel}}:ɑh{{phar}}ˈmɛ:nɪ r:{{vel}}:ɑˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ʔɛl ˈh{{phar}}ɑmdʊ̈ lɪl:ˈlɛ:hɪ ˈr{{vel}}ɑb:ɪl ʔ{{phar}}a:ləˈmi:n]
# [ʔɛr{{vel}}:ɑh{{phar}}ˈmɛ:nɪ r:{{vel}}:ɑˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ˈmɛ:lɪcʰɪ ˈjɛwmɪ ˈd:i:n]
# [ˈʔi:jəcʰə ˈnæʔ{{phar}}p⁼ʊ̈dʊ̈ və ˈʔi:jəcʰə nəstʰæˈʔ{{phar}}ɐi:n]
# [ˈʔɪhdinɛ: s{{vel}}ëˈr{{vel}}ɑ:d{{den}}{{vel}}əl mʊ̈stʰəˈgi:m]
# [s{{vel}}ëˈr{{vel}}ɑ:d{{den}}{{vel}}ə l:əˈdi:nə ˈʔɛnʔ{{phar}}æmtʰə ʔ{{phar}}æˈlɛɪhɪm ˈɣɐjrɪl məɣˈz{{vel}}u:bɪ ʔ{{phar}}æˈlɛɪhɪm vəlɛ: ˈz{{vel}}:ɑ:l:i:n]

Revision as of 19:21, 27 July 2022

Irish reading tradition for an Indic language

-h's interpreted as lenition

retroflexes are ignored but Th and Dh become dental fricatives

should be for a middle Prakrit (a liturgical form of Sauraseni)

Jamaican/Finnish Latin

  • Ecclesiastical Latin ti -> tsi gone wild: in this dialect it becomes si
    • Reflexive pronouns disappear (since tibi and sibi merge)
  • ē, ō -> ie, uo (the opposite of Romance languages)
    • could create interesting false friends with Romance languages like "bacon"/"beer can"

Tonal Latin

  • louksnā -> lū̀ˀna

Traditional English pronunciation of Sanskrit

Idea: "What if Sanskrit had a reading tradition from Medieval England"

  • "Cerebrals" merge with dentals as in southeast Asian languages
  • Word-final nasal -ṃ merges with -m as in the traditional reading of Latin
  • Miraculously final -aḥ and -o merge into /-oʊ/, the former is an independent development from Prakrit languages -- it comes from the usual assimilation of "silent gh"

Rigveda

/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/

Arabic

"Culturally Indian Arabic"

q k g ɣ ŋ tsˁ tʃ j ʒ nj tˁ t d ð n pˁ f b b m y r l w š sˁ s h

Skt CiCāCa gets borrowed as Stem III

"Indian MSA analogous to Indian English"

2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y

Hiberno-Arabic analogous to Hiberno-English

ʔ+ b+ t+~θ+ t+~θ+ dʒ+ hˁ x d+ d+ rˠ z+ s+ ʃ+ sˠ zˠ dˠ zˠ ʔˁ ɣ f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+

(+ = causes following a u ā ū to become ɛ ʊ̈ e:~æ: ü:)

  1. [bɪsmɪˈl:ɛ:hɪ rˠ:ɑhˁˈmɛ:nɪ r:ˠ:ɑˈhˁɐi:m]
  2. [ʔɛl ˈhˁɑmdʊ̈ lɪl:ˈlɛ:hɪ ˈrˠɑb:ɪl ʔˁa:ləˈmi:n]
  3. [ʔɛrˠ:ɑhˁˈmɛ:nɪ r:ˠ:ɑˈhˁɐi:m]
  4. [ˈmɛ:lɪcʰɪ ˈjɛwmɪ ˈd:i:n]
  5. [ˈʔi:jəcʰə ˈnæʔˁp⁼ʊ̈dʊ̈ və ˈʔi:jəcʰə nəstʰæˈʔˁɐi:n]
  6. [ˈʔɪhdinɛ: sˠëˈrˠɑ:d̪ˠəl mʊ̈stʰəˈgi:m]
  7. [sˠëˈrˠɑ:d̪ˠə l:əˈdi:nə ˈʔɛnʔˁæmtʰə ʔˁæˈlɛɪhɪm ˈɣɐjrɪl məɣˈzˠu:bɪ ʔˁæˈlɛɪhɪm vəlɛ: ˈzˠ:ɑ:l:i:n]