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The differences between dialects were huge in their last documented stage (15th century): | The differences between dialects were huge in their last documented stage (15th century): | ||
:: - Northern: Tilo egy | :: - Northern: Tilo egy percho vizo. | ||
:: - Danubian: *A egy vissi | :: - Danubian: *A egy vissi percho thήlo. | ||
:: - Slavic: Tilo egy | :: - Slavic: Tilo egy ckasta vodae. | ||
:: - Western-Germanic: Ich thilo eni preg | :: - Western-Germanic: Ich thilo eni preg vazzer. | ||
:: - Modern Grekelin (Latinized): | :: - Modern Grekelin (Latinized): Ich thilo eghy perchi viza. | ||
Despite Grekelin now being one language with two variants, some consider the Slavic dialect a seperate language, since it derives from another Proto-Grekelin dialect (Compare the Slavic and Northern dialects from above) and was not in contact with the rest of the Proto-Grekelin dialects for over 500 years. |
Revision as of 12:12, 24 July 2023
Proto-Grekelin | |
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Γρεκέλην, Grekélin | |
Created by | Aggelos Tselios |
Date | 2023 |
Native to | Hungary, Serbia, Austria |
Indo-European
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Early form | Proto-Grekelin
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Standard form | Urlogreckae ('Υρλόγρέκέλινιν')
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Dialects |
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Official status | |
Regulated by | Grekelin Language Administration |
Proto-Grekelin refers to the ancestral language of Grekelin which appears to have been spoken in the 13th to 16th centuries, before eventually evolving into Grekelin. Proto-Grekelin is mutually intelligible with both Greek and Grekelin but also maintains strong influence from Hungarian. Proto-Grekelin is made up by a series of slightly different dialects, with the most influencial one being Western-Germanic as it gave the language personal pronouns (Ίχ from German ich, Σίχ from German sich, etc). Proto-Grekelin was written with the Latin alphabet officially, but on some villages the local boards were using Greek as the majority of Proto-Grekelin speakers were Greeks.
Etymology
Grekelin comes from the Urlogrok word Groko, which means Greek. The suffix -lin comes from Proto-Grekelin "Ελλήν" which is the ethnonym for the Greeks. Eventually, Groko reverted to the Latin-related "Greko" and, as the tradition has it, the two worlds met to form Grekelin.
Another legend says that Grekelin was a very old Slavic word to describe the Greeks of the Black Sea, during the Kievan Rus times. It appears that the surname Grekelin exists in Ukrainian and Belarusian (Грекелін), while Russian has a more distinct version Грекелов.
Orthography
The Proto-Grekelin alphabet was not standardized; The speakers either used the Greek or the Latin script and often borrowed more letters when one was already used for a sound. Below is the Latin version, which was used in Austria and some parts of Vojvodina.
Letters of the Proto-Grekelin (Latin) alphabet | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Aa | Bb | Gg | Dd | Ee | Zz | Θθ | Ii | Kk | Ll | Mm | Nn | Xx | Oo | Pp | Rr | Ss | Tt | Ff | Jj | V |
Very often, the additional letters c, ψ, η were used for some sounds such as (Respectively) s, ps, ae.
Stress
Being a Hellenic language, Grekelin keeps the stress at one of the last three syllables, and does not have the freedom of Grekelin. Borrowed words were forced to be stressed in the second from last syllable.
Dialects
Proto-Grekelin had been spoken across different parts of Central Europe, usually with no connection between the populations speaking Proto-Grekelin, evolving completely differently from one another. The 4 known dialects so far are:
- - Northern Dialect, which was directly derived from Urlogrok and the main ancestor to Grekelin.
- - The Danubian dialect, which went extinct fast. It was spoken primarily in Buda-Pest (Before the cities unified).
- - The Slavic dialect which also involved into the Slavic dialect of Grekelin. It was probably the only dialect in contact with another (Northern).
- - Western-Germanic, which was spoken in Eastern Austria (Mostly Burgenland). Eventually it went extinct after giving Grekelin some Germanic influence.
The differences between dialects were huge in their last documented stage (15th century):
- - Northern: Tilo egy percho vizo.
- - Danubian: *A egy vissi percho thήlo.
- - Slavic: Tilo egy ckasta vodae.
- - Western-Germanic: Ich thilo eni preg vazzer.
- - Modern Grekelin (Latinized): Ich thilo eghy perchi viza.
Despite Grekelin now being one language with two variants, some consider the Slavic dialect a seperate language, since it derives from another Proto-Grekelin dialect (Compare the Slavic and Northern dialects from above) and was not in contact with the rest of the Proto-Grekelin dialects for over 500 years.