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Main difference from OTL: Ashokan missionaries get to Carthage, whose lect of Canaanite also somewhat differs from OTL
Main differences from OTL:
* Ashokan missionaries get to Carthage (this fact isn't provable in-universe)
*... whose lect of Canaanite also somewhat differs from OTL and is more IE-influenced (from Azalic speakers; e.g. tense markers and negated adjectives/abstract nouns (e.g. ''bl h3wlt'' or later ''hbl 3wlt'' 'refraining from violence/wronging/victimizing') are more common)


== Hadīqūt ==
== Hadīqūt ==
Hadīqūt is the Ancient Knench Buddhism-influenced offshoot of Punic religion that among other things condemns both human and animal sacrifice; poorly attested because of Christian suppression, but evidence survives in Latin and Greek texts
Hadīqūt (out-of-universe note: this is a loan translation from Greek ''eusébeia'', which translates ''dharma'') is an offshoot of Punic religion that among other things condemns both human and animal sacrifice; its beliefs are somewhat poorly attested because of Christian suppression, but evidence about it survives in Latin and Greek texts.


It is forbidden to overexploit sacred groves (''2šrym''/''2ašērīm'', ''2šr''/''2ōšēr'' is collectivized from ''2šrt''/''2ašērō'')
It is forbidden to overexploit sacred groves (''2šrym''/''2ašērīm'', ''2šr''/''2ōšēr'' is collectivized from ''2šrt''/''2ašērō'')


(The name of the religion should be whatever the best translation of "dharma" is in Ancient Canaanite; 𐤃𐤓𐤊 𐤄𐤄𐤃𐤉𐤒𐤅𐤕 𐤅𐤁𐤋 𐤄𐤄𐤅𐤍𐤉𐤕 ''drk hhdyqwt wbl hhwnyt''
In translation, a Hadīqūt teacher is described as teaching as follows: "The Way of Piety is justice and righteousness; lovingkindness towards every soul and refraining from wrongdoing towards any of them; and steadfast devotion to the study and practice of Piety."
"Way of Piety and Nonviolence"? ''hadīqūt'' is a loan translation from Greek ''eusébeia'', which translates ''dharma'')
 
In translation, a Hadīqūt teacher is described as teaching as follows: "The Way of Piety is justice and righteousness; lovingkindness towards every soul and refraining from violence towards any of them; and steadfast devotion to the study and practice of Piety."


== Middle Knench religion ==
== Middle Knench religion ==
Middle Knench Christian Bible translation codifies the modern Literary Knench register
Middle Knench Christian Bible translation (from the Vulgate, not the Hebrew/Greek) codifies Knench


== Modern Knench religion ==
== Modern Knench religion ==
Hirom ven-Henni revives and reconstructs Hadīqūt; he translates many Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts into Knench
There is a "xenharmony but for religion" culture of comparative religion
 
Qhirom ben-Qhenni constructs a neo-Hadīqūt to rebel against what he views as the exclusivism of Christianity; he translates many Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts into Knench. He views paganism as natural, rather than racial/essential to IE-speaking people. (He studies Judaism just like any non-Christian religion and focuses on the rabbinical texts; he notes how Rabbinic Judaism encourages pluralism in interpretation, and he even sees some common cause with the Tanakh itself, because some objectionable things it condemns were also condemned by the Hadīqīm. Thus he emphasizes that Jews are not the enemy of pluralism.)
 
Another Knench scholar Mathaj Faros disagrees somewhat, saying that he can't believe in any gods because he already started out disbelieving in most gods thanks to Christianity
 
Another Knenchman, Antre Niri, proposes a more Japanese model for neopaganism
 
Most modern Knench people describe themselves as not being in any particular religion, because of the enduring influence of "xen-religion" in Knench culture. Among the religious, the largest religions are Christianity > syncretic paganism (modeled after Indian and Japanese paganisms) > Judaism ≈ Islam (People usually don't go from Christianity/Islam to paganism, they go to irreligion)
 
Many Knench people, even nominally irreligious people and Christians, have folk beliefs

Latest revision as of 19:32, 11 May 2026

Main differences from OTL:

  • Ashokan missionaries get to Carthage (this fact isn't provable in-universe)
  • ... whose lect of Canaanite also somewhat differs from OTL and is more IE-influenced (from Azalic speakers; e.g. tense markers and negated adjectives/abstract nouns (e.g. bl h3wlt or later hbl 3wlt 'refraining from violence/wronging/victimizing') are more common)

Hadīqūt

Hadīqūt (out-of-universe note: this is a loan translation from Greek eusébeia, which translates dharma) is an offshoot of Punic religion that among other things condemns both human and animal sacrifice; its beliefs are somewhat poorly attested because of Christian suppression, but evidence about it survives in Latin and Greek texts.

It is forbidden to overexploit sacred groves (2šrym/2ašērīm, 2šr/2ōšēr is collectivized from 2šrt/2ašērō)

In translation, a Hadīqūt teacher is described as teaching as follows: "The Way of Piety is justice and righteousness; lovingkindness towards every soul and refraining from wrongdoing towards any of them; and steadfast devotion to the study and practice of Piety."

Middle Knench religion

Middle Knench Christian Bible translation (from the Vulgate, not the Hebrew/Greek) codifies Knench

Modern Knench religion

There is a "xenharmony but for religion" culture of comparative religion

Qhirom ben-Qhenni constructs a neo-Hadīqūt to rebel against what he views as the exclusivism of Christianity; he translates many Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts into Knench. He views paganism as natural, rather than racial/essential to IE-speaking people. (He studies Judaism just like any non-Christian religion and focuses on the rabbinical texts; he notes how Rabbinic Judaism encourages pluralism in interpretation, and he even sees some common cause with the Tanakh itself, because some objectionable things it condemns were also condemned by the Hadīqīm. Thus he emphasizes that Jews are not the enemy of pluralism.)

Another Knench scholar Mathaj Faros disagrees somewhat, saying that he can't believe in any gods because he already started out disbelieving in most gods thanks to Christianity

Another Knenchman, Antre Niri, proposes a more Japanese model for neopaganism

Most modern Knench people describe themselves as not being in any particular religion, because of the enduring influence of "xen-religion" in Knench culture. Among the religious, the largest religions are Christianity > syncretic paganism (modeled after Indian and Japanese paganisms) > Judaism ≈ Islam (People usually don't go from Christianity/Islam to paganism, they go to irreligion)

Many Knench people, even nominally irreligious people and Christians, have folk beliefs