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The '''Ngăthoar''' are a collection of stories and anecdotes, often with some moral lesson, written in [[Windermere|Classical Windermere]].
The '''Imθumăytil''' (CWdm: /imtʰuməjˈtil/, lit. 'Delvings' or 'Inquiries', Modern ''Imthumitil'') is a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, songs, lectures and sermons, in [[Naeng/Classical|Classical Naeng]]. Some passages are in [[Tseer/Classical|Classical Tseer]].
 
==Todo==
*Scientific concepts?
**atoms? evolution?
*Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of their doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols
Perhaps these are too mathy and mystical for Mărotłism but:
*Something based on symmetry? wallpapers and platonic solids are easy examples
*Something geometrical?


==The round table==
==The round table==
''Doan ngith, dur id tach cheth mi mogor lăytheath. Enwiets Păda Brăwied: "Mea ra łănam runse?"''
''Ngiiθ dur mogor se taχ χaaθ. "Măra łĭnam?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. Mi-ăngnuung căχθaaθ năθa emrĭtsal sen doon: "Șrüχ te-stiiw: taχ mognas, θaφ te-müts θraaφ, liw stăliiw, θaφ te-müts sălmeχ, taχ mălüüts, doon tălaχ." "Ǎna mee ra, srü hĭdeen croθ năθa?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. "Op cănga, φin Pĭda: tsor pădiχ φnărtaang, te ămsaχ păχwădiχ năθa ya φin croθ φi!" eφθooc φin χaaθ. "Ăruy șa-χaaθ ses tsărüng φănaw φănaw." esngim șa φin χaaθ φin Pĭda Brăwid.''
 
====Translation====
one time, sit NOM six child in circle VN.discuss. PFV-ask Master B.: "many what 2PL here?"
Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwiid asked them: "How many of you are here?"
 
Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwied asked them: "How many of you are here?"
 
''Roac ăngnung nătha imcheth, emcă'aw doan: "Müeșrüch te-stiw: tach gnas, șrüch te-stiw thref, șrüch chustiw..."''


when PROG-count other PL-child answer one: 63: six individual, 15 pair, 20 group_of_3
While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of 2, 20 teams of 3, 15 teams of 4, 6 teams of 5, and 1 team of 6."


While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of two, 20 teams of 3, ..."
Now Master Brăwiid asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"


Master Șăfaw then asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"
The child said: "It is plain, Master: here we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"


The child nonchalantly responded: "Well, we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"
Master Brăwiid praised the child, saying, "This child has wisdom indeed."


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===Notes===
The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The Naeng recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic [[Verse:Tricin/Etsoj Jopah|Etsoj Jopah]] interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.

Latest revision as of 19:47, 25 January 2023

The Imθumăytil (CWdm: /imtʰuməjˈtil/, lit. 'Delvings' or 'Inquiries', Modern Imthumitil) is a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, songs, lectures and sermons, in Classical Naeng. Some passages are in Classical Tseer.

Todo

  • Scientific concepts?
    • atoms? evolution?
  • Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of their doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols

Perhaps these are too mathy and mystical for Mărotłism but:

  • Something based on symmetry? wallpapers and platonic solids are easy examples
  • Something geometrical?

The round table

Ngiiθ dur mogor se taχ χaaθ. "Măra łĭnam?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. Mi-ăngnuung căχθaaθ năθa emrĭtsal sen doon: "Șrüχ te-stiiw: taχ mognas, θaφ te-müts θraaφ, liw stăliiw, θaφ te-müts sălmeχ, taχ mălüüts, doon tălaχ." "Ǎna mee ra, srü hĭdeen croθ năθa?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. "Op cănga, φin Pĭda: tsor pădiχ φnărtaang, te ămsaχ păχwădiχ năθa ya φin croθ φi!" eφθooc φin χaaθ. "Ăruy șa-χaaθ ses tsărüng φănaw φănaw." esngim șa φin χaaθ φin Pĭda Brăwid.

Translation

Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwiid asked them: "How many of you are here?"

While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of 2, 20 teams of 3, 15 teams of 4, 6 teams of 5, and 1 team of 6."

Now Master Brăwiid asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"

The child said: "It is plain, Master: here we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"

Master Brăwiid praised the child, saying, "This child has wisdom indeed."

Notes

The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The Naeng recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic Etsoj Jopah interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.