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==Azalic music== | ==Azalic music== | ||
Azalic music is built up on similar principles to ancient Greek music theory, but they divide string lengths into constructible ratios which aren't always rational. The most common tunings used in Azalic music divide a JI interval, most commonly 2/1, 3/2 or 12/7, into 16 equal parts, and various MOS subsets of these are used for melody, particularly Lemba, Mavila, and Magic temperaments. | Azalic music is built up on similar principles to ancient Greek music theory, but they divide string lengths into constructible ratios which aren't always rational. The most common tunings used in Azalic music divide a JI interval, most commonly 2/1, 3/2 or 12/7, into 16 equal parts, and various MOS subsets of these are used for melody, particularly Lemba, Mavila, and Magic temperaments. | ||
Common Mavila scales used in Azalic music are the | Common Mavila scales used in Azalic music are the Antilocrian mode, 3 2 2 3 2 2 2, and the seventh mode of the harmonic minor, 3 2 3 2 2 3 1. | ||
In Irtan cultures outside the Azalic Urheimat but influenced by Azalic culture, 16ed12/7, and its octave equivalent counterpart 41edo, became the most prominent tuning whereas Irta's North Africa (the Azalic Urheimat) mostly uses variations on 16 tone octave equivalent and related scales. | In Irtan cultures outside the Azalic Urheimat but influenced by Azalic culture, 16ed12/7, and its octave equivalent counterpart 41edo, became the most prominent tuning whereas Irta's North Africa (the Azalic Urheimat) mostly uses variations on 16 tone octave equivalent and related scales. Knench music, which is generally polyphonic, uses harmonic series approximations to 16edo. | ||
== Irish classical music == | Azalic scales directly influenced the music of Irta's Southern United States and Mexico. | ||
== Irta Irish classical music == | |||
"If Irish/Scottish folk music is the same as in our timeline what would Irish elite music be like" | "If Irish/Scottish folk music is the same as in our timeline what would Irish elite music be like" | ||
=== Irish Renaissance music === | === Irta Irish Renaissance music === | ||
Should be a development of sung bardic poetry | Should be a development of sung bardic poetry, with French Renaissance influences | ||
=== Counter-Remonition === | |||
Tuning: Fixed pitch instruments are tuned to 5 to 10 note subsets of 2-3 chains of Pyth fifths separated by 5/4, commas are | === Irish Counter-Remonition === | ||
Tuning: Fixed pitch instruments are tuned to 5 to 10 note subsets of 2-3 chains of Pyth fifths separated by 5/4, commas are intentionally used. At some point this is standardized to 34edo | |||
Names for the tuning standard and notes relative to it (like how Arabs don't use all 24 notes of 24edo) | Names for the tuning standard and notes relative to it (like how Arabs don't use all 24 notes of 24edo) | ||
=== Irta Irish Romanticism === | === Irta Irish Romanticism === | ||
post-2nd Rem | post-2nd Rem; exists alongside "Western classical" music and influences modernist strains of it | ||
Albionian and folk Irish music influences, Irish lieder are a tradition along with French and Azalic English ones (reaction to excesses of the Counter-Remonition period) | Albionian and folk Irish music influences, Irish lieder are a tradition along with French and Azalic English ones (reaction to excesses of the Counter-Remonition period) | ||
Irish Romantic music in Irta generally uses small scales, mostly 5 limit though some 7's and 11's show up | |||
In literature, nature poetry makes a comeback | In literature, nature poetry makes a comeback | ||
== | ==Irta Spanish music== | ||
Irta's Spain uses Azalic instruments and forms. | |||
The 18th century guitarist Redwen Arantzazumab was responsible for creating many modern Irta Spanish musical styles. Some of these such as Azalic flamenco have influenced music in other parts of Irta. Arantzazumab's treatise ''The Musical Spirit'' is widely read and is perhaps one of the most misunderstood musical treatises in Irta. | |||
== Western European music == | |||
Three distinct classical styles emerge in Western Europe in Irta, all of which are popular. The first two arise directly out of Remonitionism -- the style that arises from the First Remonition is a neo-medievalism developed by John Wellwise, inspired by various Italic-speaking cultures as well as Tsarfati Jewish music. Second Remonitionist music is much more like our timeline's Western music and influenced musical cultures in Cualand. | |||
=== Irta Baroque === | === Irta Baroque === | ||
A neo-medievalist movement which develops in France, Spain and Italy, "what if Baroque used 17edo/17wt" | A neo-medievalist movement which develops in France, Spain and Italy, "what if Baroque used 17edo/17wt" | ||
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2-part counterpart likes resolving to fifths and uses tons of Machaut cadences (Eb-G -> D-A, Ed-Gt -> D-A, E-G# -> D-A) | 2-part counterpart likes resolving to fifths and uses tons of Machaut cadences (Eb-G -> D-A, Ed-Gt -> D-A, E-G# -> D-A) | ||
Nowadays First Remonitionist styles are much more popular in Riphea and Remonitionist colonies in Polynesia. | |||
John Wellwise /wɛlɪz/ is the counterpoint guy (interpreting "Fuxian" as Mandarin 富賢) | John Wellwise /wɛlɪz/ is the counterpoint guy (interpreting "Fuxian" as Mandarin 富賢) | ||
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=== Second Remonitionist music === | === Second Remonitionist music === | ||
Early Second Remonitionist musical styles are derived from | Early Second Remonitionist musical styles are derived from Gregorian chants and approach them in a much more "gestural" fashion. The tonal system that emerged from this is adaptive 12 tone near-equal. This later evolved into 12edo in Western music in Irta and into a more maqam-like melodic system in Cualand. | ||
=== Classical and Romantic music === | |||
Classical and Romantic music are very similar to our timeline. | |||
Todo: move fuzzy intonation elements to Cualand | |||
Triadic polyphony in Irta evolved mainly from folk adaptations of Second Remonitionist polyphony, with melodic tendencies as in our timeline's "expressive intonation" resulting in a roughly 12 tone division of the octave. A notable difference is that the piano isn't as prominent -- in contrast, string ensembles and voice are given precedence which makes the classical idea of intonation in Irta much more fluid than in our timeline, with theorists often acknowledging subtle variations of a note, and there are various proposals to explain intonation in Irtan classical music. Intonational variation correlates with: | |||
* the placement of notes within a phrase, as well as scalar and harmonic context, | |||
* mood, and | |||
* region (e.g. western parts of Hyperfrance use wider leading tones and narrower fifths compared to Riphea). This makes it especially hard for Irtan classical composers to codify an intonational system. | |||
Many composers in Irta regard fixed pitch instruments as inadequate for capturing the nuances of intonation, and these composers mostly write for strings, voice, and trombone. Some developed cross-fingering techniques for woodwinds to better approximate expressive intonation. | |||
Interestingly this results in Irtan Western classical music being thought of as one of the prominent microtonal world traditions and there are various myths across Irta about the number of notes in Western music, 21 and 35 being commonly cited numbers because of the notation system. | |||
== | ====Artistic movements and composers==== | ||
== | The most popular 19th century Western composer in Irta is Mahi Driu, who was also a cello virtuoso. She wrote over 50 string quartets, 6 cello suites and several concerti for cello and string ensemble. | ||
Other prominent figures: | |||
*Utvan Okyv, operatic composer | |||
*Arexudh Šarie, violinist and composer of caprices | |||
*Žufasva Dertai, cellist | |||
*Ženviv Fidutvan | |||
**Irta's Chopin -- of Riphean origin (birth name Zenevīve Antōnastukte); famous for writing adaptations of Riphean folk dances as well as Riphean-inspired violin music | |||
*Krod Erfebh, composer of symphonies | |||
*Máirtín Mac Seanlaoich, composer of Irish-language art songs | |||
** In Irta, "The Raven" most commonly refers to this person's art song "''An Fiach Dubh''", but it's not on the same poem as our Edgar Allan Poe's | |||
* Éamon Budigēgı, composer who incorporated elements of classical Arabic music into Irta Irish Romanticism | |||
*Saoirse Ní Mhaolagáin, symphonist, part of the "Second Viennese School" | |||
**her 9th symphony introduces the pandiatonic style for the first time in Irta | |||
**Tricky violin concertos using modal figurations that stump violinists? | |||
* Blesswise Kim, ethnomusicologist, microtonalist and author of a treatise proposing extended Pythagorean intonation | |||
**Introduces a Bosanquet-like layout which becomes controversial? | |||
The Second Viennese school isn't a thing in Irta; the equivalent is a resurgence of modes outside the major/minor system, developed in Irta's Ireland as a classical take on Irtan Irish Romanticism. Pandiatonicism as well as a total abandonment of earlier classical musical gestures is a part of this trend. This is part of a broader artistic movement that features modernist poetry and abstract painting. This abstractness becomes the most prominent style in modern music in Irta's British Isles and Quelfton and gives rise to various forms of experimentation such as a "tonal New Complexity" style pioneered by Quelftonian composer ____. Irtan "Second Viennese" composers use 53edo as a rough codification of the notes found in earlier classical melodic tropes. | |||
==Riphean== | |||
Folk traditions of Riphea are revived as a part of the Nōje Niđjaste movement and a distinctive Riphean style of classical music develops from this. The "Riphean style" was subsequently incorporated into concert music by late 19th century Irtan composers. | |||
==Japanese== | |||
idea: "what if maqams were pentatonic" | |||
Irta | Irta Japanese music consists of various modes and melodic tropes called ''makān'' and ''āwāji''. Japanese ''makān''s are mostly pentatonic where certain notes are played with vibrato by default. For instance ''makān-i-Hirajōshi'' consists of the scale C D Eb G Ab with vibratos on the notes Eb and Ab. In addition there are non-octave ''makān''s like the "pentatonic" scale C D Eb G Ab Bb with vibratos on Eb and Bb. There are also hexatonic ''makān''s that have Hiberno-Majorcan names and are inspired by Irish folk music. | ||
Irta Japanese "ajnas" are either trichords spanning a perfect fourth or tetrachords spanning a perfect fifth. An exception is ??? which spans a diminished fifth: C E F Gb. | |||
=== | == Arabic == | ||
No maqam 3ajam in places that use a 17edo-based theory; Irta's maqam 3ajam comes from 5-limit Ionian and Mixolydian in Irta Irish theory, often approximated with 34edo | |||
=== Majorcan === | |||
Sean-nós style in Arabic maqams, this style is called ''γine'' /ˈʁɪnə/ (cognate to Maltese ''għana'') in Majorcan Arabic | |||
==== New maqams ==== | |||
Some maqams named after Irish or Celtic places or scales in Irta Irish classical music | |||
More maqams with Arabic names like "Rahat Al Arwah" | |||
Irta Irish borrows maqām names (via Majorcan Arabic, e.g. ''Rāhatı alı-Arvēh'') and the term ''megāmı'' itself, and translates other maqam terms | |||
==Talma== | |||
=== Hebrew cantillation === | |||
Based on oneirotonic, uses modes such as LLLSLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LSLLSLLS, LSLSLSAS, LSLSLLLS, SLSLLSLL, with varying tunings which can change when singing; marimbas are common in synagogues | |||
==Cualand== | |||
* | ===Anglo-Cualandian music=== | ||
English Cualandian music is based on a modal framework in a roughly 12 tone scale, which evolved from early Second Remonitionist music in Irta. There are four main families of scales in use in this system: | |||
*The Lydian family, characterised by a sharpened 4th | |||
*The Ionian family, characterized by natural thirds and fourths | |||
*The Dorian family, characterized by a flat third | |||
*The Phrygian family, characterized by a flat second | |||
===Hebrew cantillation=== | |||
Cantillation tropes in Cualand are diatonic, LCJI-based, or overtone scale-based. Some melodies use Locrian. Doctrinally Judaism is no more weird than the full range of Rabbinic Judaism in our timeline. | |||
[[File:Adon Olam Cualandian.png|thumbnail|A Cualandian tune for Adon Olam|450px]] | |||
== Primodality == | |||
=== Evolution === | |||
Primodality is invented in Cualand. Like in our timeline, primodality is chord-scale theory applied to overtone scales. In Irta, chord-scale theory arises within the Irta Arab maqam tradition (which has a standardized abstract gamut) whereas the original maqam culture survives in other cultures such as Turkic and Midhirian music. | |||
Latest revision as of 22:07, 21 January 2023
Azalic music
Azalic music is built up on similar principles to ancient Greek music theory, but they divide string lengths into constructible ratios which aren't always rational. The most common tunings used in Azalic music divide a JI interval, most commonly 2/1, 3/2 or 12/7, into 16 equal parts, and various MOS subsets of these are used for melody, particularly Lemba, Mavila, and Magic temperaments.
Common Mavila scales used in Azalic music are the Antilocrian mode, 3 2 2 3 2 2 2, and the seventh mode of the harmonic minor, 3 2 3 2 2 3 1.
In Irtan cultures outside the Azalic Urheimat but influenced by Azalic culture, 16ed12/7, and its octave equivalent counterpart 41edo, became the most prominent tuning whereas Irta's North Africa (the Azalic Urheimat) mostly uses variations on 16 tone octave equivalent and related scales. Knench music, which is generally polyphonic, uses harmonic series approximations to 16edo.
Azalic scales directly influenced the music of Irta's Southern United States and Mexico.
Irta Irish classical music
"If Irish/Scottish folk music is the same as in our timeline what would Irish elite music be like"
Irta Irish Renaissance music
Should be a development of sung bardic poetry, with French Renaissance influences
Irish Counter-Remonition
Tuning: Fixed pitch instruments are tuned to 5 to 10 note subsets of 2-3 chains of Pyth fifths separated by 5/4, commas are intentionally used. At some point this is standardized to 34edo
Names for the tuning standard and notes relative to it (like how Arabs don't use all 24 notes of 24edo)
Irta Irish Romanticism
post-2nd Rem; exists alongside "Western classical" music and influences modernist strains of it
Albionian and folk Irish music influences, Irish lieder are a tradition along with French and Azalic English ones (reaction to excesses of the Counter-Remonition period)
Irish Romantic music in Irta generally uses small scales, mostly 5 limit though some 7's and 11's show up
In literature, nature poetry makes a comeback
Irta Spanish music
Irta's Spain uses Azalic instruments and forms.
The 18th century guitarist Redwen Arantzazumab was responsible for creating many modern Irta Spanish musical styles. Some of these such as Azalic flamenco have influenced music in other parts of Irta. Arantzazumab's treatise The Musical Spirit is widely read and is perhaps one of the most misunderstood musical treatises in Irta.
Western European music
Three distinct classical styles emerge in Western Europe in Irta, all of which are popular. The first two arise directly out of Remonitionism -- the style that arises from the First Remonition is a neo-medievalism developed by John Wellwise, inspired by various Italic-speaking cultures as well as Tsarfati Jewish music. Second Remonitionist music is much more like our timeline's Western music and influenced musical cultures in Cualand.
Irta Baroque
A neo-medievalist movement which develops in France, Spain and Italy, "what if Baroque used 17edo/17wt"
Baroque dance suites in 17edo which use Baroque dance rhythms but not our Baroque harmony; canons and fugues, but not using Fuxian counterpoint
2-part counterpart likes resolving to fifths and uses tons of Machaut cadences (Eb-G -> D-A, Ed-Gt -> D-A, E-G# -> D-A)
Nowadays First Remonitionist styles are much more popular in Riphea and Remonitionist colonies in Polynesia.
John Wellwise /wɛlɪz/ is the counterpoint guy (interpreting "Fuxian" as Mandarin 富賢)
Irta Baroque trends
Bleu temperament often shows up as an attempt to capture an "Azalic" sound in a 17edo framework
Second Remonitionist music
Early Second Remonitionist musical styles are derived from Gregorian chants and approach them in a much more "gestural" fashion. The tonal system that emerged from this is adaptive 12 tone near-equal. This later evolved into 12edo in Western music in Irta and into a more maqam-like melodic system in Cualand.
Classical and Romantic music
Classical and Romantic music are very similar to our timeline.
Todo: move fuzzy intonation elements to Cualand
Triadic polyphony in Irta evolved mainly from folk adaptations of Second Remonitionist polyphony, with melodic tendencies as in our timeline's "expressive intonation" resulting in a roughly 12 tone division of the octave. A notable difference is that the piano isn't as prominent -- in contrast, string ensembles and voice are given precedence which makes the classical idea of intonation in Irta much more fluid than in our timeline, with theorists often acknowledging subtle variations of a note, and there are various proposals to explain intonation in Irtan classical music. Intonational variation correlates with:
- the placement of notes within a phrase, as well as scalar and harmonic context,
- mood, and
- region (e.g. western parts of Hyperfrance use wider leading tones and narrower fifths compared to Riphea). This makes it especially hard for Irtan classical composers to codify an intonational system.
Many composers in Irta regard fixed pitch instruments as inadequate for capturing the nuances of intonation, and these composers mostly write for strings, voice, and trombone. Some developed cross-fingering techniques for woodwinds to better approximate expressive intonation.
Interestingly this results in Irtan Western classical music being thought of as one of the prominent microtonal world traditions and there are various myths across Irta about the number of notes in Western music, 21 and 35 being commonly cited numbers because of the notation system.
Artistic movements and composers
The most popular 19th century Western composer in Irta is Mahi Driu, who was also a cello virtuoso. She wrote over 50 string quartets, 6 cello suites and several concerti for cello and string ensemble.
Other prominent figures:
- Utvan Okyv, operatic composer
- Arexudh Šarie, violinist and composer of caprices
- Žufasva Dertai, cellist
- Ženviv Fidutvan
- Irta's Chopin -- of Riphean origin (birth name Zenevīve Antōnastukte); famous for writing adaptations of Riphean folk dances as well as Riphean-inspired violin music
- Krod Erfebh, composer of symphonies
- Máirtín Mac Seanlaoich, composer of Irish-language art songs
- In Irta, "The Raven" most commonly refers to this person's art song "An Fiach Dubh", but it's not on the same poem as our Edgar Allan Poe's
- Éamon Budigēgı, composer who incorporated elements of classical Arabic music into Irta Irish Romanticism
- Saoirse Ní Mhaolagáin, symphonist, part of the "Second Viennese School"
- her 9th symphony introduces the pandiatonic style for the first time in Irta
- Tricky violin concertos using modal figurations that stump violinists?
- Blesswise Kim, ethnomusicologist, microtonalist and author of a treatise proposing extended Pythagorean intonation
- Introduces a Bosanquet-like layout which becomes controversial?
The Second Viennese school isn't a thing in Irta; the equivalent is a resurgence of modes outside the major/minor system, developed in Irta's Ireland as a classical take on Irtan Irish Romanticism. Pandiatonicism as well as a total abandonment of earlier classical musical gestures is a part of this trend. This is part of a broader artistic movement that features modernist poetry and abstract painting. This abstractness becomes the most prominent style in modern music in Irta's British Isles and Quelfton and gives rise to various forms of experimentation such as a "tonal New Complexity" style pioneered by Quelftonian composer ____. Irtan "Second Viennese" composers use 53edo as a rough codification of the notes found in earlier classical melodic tropes.
Riphean
Folk traditions of Riphea are revived as a part of the Nōje Niđjaste movement and a distinctive Riphean style of classical music develops from this. The "Riphean style" was subsequently incorporated into concert music by late 19th century Irtan composers.
Japanese
idea: "what if maqams were pentatonic"
Irta Japanese music consists of various modes and melodic tropes called makān and āwāji. Japanese makāns are mostly pentatonic where certain notes are played with vibrato by default. For instance makān-i-Hirajōshi consists of the scale C D Eb G Ab with vibratos on the notes Eb and Ab. In addition there are non-octave makāns like the "pentatonic" scale C D Eb G Ab Bb with vibratos on Eb and Bb. There are also hexatonic makāns that have Hiberno-Majorcan names and are inspired by Irish folk music.
Irta Japanese "ajnas" are either trichords spanning a perfect fourth or tetrachords spanning a perfect fifth. An exception is ??? which spans a diminished fifth: C E F Gb.
Arabic
No maqam 3ajam in places that use a 17edo-based theory; Irta's maqam 3ajam comes from 5-limit Ionian and Mixolydian in Irta Irish theory, often approximated with 34edo
Majorcan
Sean-nós style in Arabic maqams, this style is called γine /ˈʁɪnə/ (cognate to Maltese għana) in Majorcan Arabic
New maqams
Some maqams named after Irish or Celtic places or scales in Irta Irish classical music
More maqams with Arabic names like "Rahat Al Arwah"
Irta Irish borrows maqām names (via Majorcan Arabic, e.g. Rāhatı alı-Arvēh) and the term megāmı itself, and translates other maqam terms
Talma
Hebrew cantillation
Based on oneirotonic, uses modes such as LLLSLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LLSLLSLS, LSLLSLLS, LSLSLSAS, LSLSLLLS, SLSLLSLL, with varying tunings which can change when singing; marimbas are common in synagogues
Cualand
Anglo-Cualandian music
English Cualandian music is based on a modal framework in a roughly 12 tone scale, which evolved from early Second Remonitionist music in Irta. There are four main families of scales in use in this system:
- The Lydian family, characterised by a sharpened 4th
- The Ionian family, characterized by natural thirds and fourths
- The Dorian family, characterized by a flat third
- The Phrygian family, characterized by a flat second
Hebrew cantillation
Cantillation tropes in Cualand are diatonic, LCJI-based, or overtone scale-based. Some melodies use Locrian. Doctrinally Judaism is no more weird than the full range of Rabbinic Judaism in our timeline.
Primodality
Evolution
Primodality is invented in Cualand. Like in our timeline, primodality is chord-scale theory applied to overtone scales. In Irta, chord-scale theory arises within the Irta Arab maqam tradition (which has a standardized abstract gamut) whereas the original maqam culture survives in other cultures such as Turkic and Midhirian music.