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'''Stance on ego and identity'''
'''Stance on ego and identity'''


Ancient stoic take on ego death. Modern usage of ego deaths usually refers to our self-esteem, and our tendency to defend our self-esteem against attack, and our tendency to view the world in terms of our perceived identities. For example, if people identify themselves in terms of their political preferences or their social status or their skill set, then they will defend these abstractions as they defend themselves, and they will interact with the world as members of these groups.
Modern 21<sup>st</sup> century usage of ego deaths usually refers to our self-esteem, and our tendency to defend our self-esteem against attack, and our tendency to view the world in terms of our perceived identities. E.g. if people identify themselves in terms of their political preferences, social status, skill set, general concensus of physical attractiveness, then they will defend these abstractions as they defend themselves, and they will interact with the world as members of these groups.


The ancient Stoics would say that all of these things are external to us, that they come and go and there is no need to cling to them, and that it is a falsehood to identify one's self with them. Our real selves, as they see it, are our judgment and our will, our capacity for choice and experience. The part of you that is convinced of things, and that chooses things, is the real you. Everything else is external to you, a thing that you might enjoy or use while it is available, but not part of your core self.
These things are external to us, they come and go and there is no need to cling to them, and that it is a falsehood to identify one's own self-entity with them. Our real selves are our experience of our senses, emotions and thoughts, our judgment, will and capacity for choice. The part of you that is convinced of things, and that chooses things, is the real you. Everything else is external to you, a thing that you might enjoy or use while it is available, something that is easy to use for information, but not part of your core self.


We are entities, we have ideas and beliefs of who we are that we identify with. These are identities. Identities might help convey information, but are in actuality external to us. We ought to stop forming self-images of ourselves from these identities since these external views of ourselves are clouding our experience as self-entities. This is because our self-entities are in fact impossible for us to concretely think of.
We are entities, we have ideas and beliefs of who we are that we identify with. These are identities. Identities might help convey information, but are in actuality external to us. We ought to stop forming self-images of ourselves from these identities since these external views of ourselves are clouding our experience as self-entities. This is because our self-entities are in fact impossible for us to concretely think of.
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