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*I am king: ''Nu luh Hauer.'' (''Nà là ho.'') | *I am king: ''Nu luh Hauer.'' (''Nà là ho.'') | ||
*Zürde ('offering') > ''xuyết'' | |||
==Numbers== | ==Numbers== | ||
Revision as of 05:50, 13 November 2015
Tchwerian (Wieb-Muts [Vạp Mã] or Reber-Muts [Rạp Mã]) is a Wiebian dialect continuum that includes Modern Standard Wiebian (both the European and the North American varieties). It is often simply called "Wiebian" in-universe.
Words
- good: wick (vệch)
- I am king: Nu luh Hauer. (Nà là ho.)
- Zürde ('offering') > xuyết
Numbers
va:m, dɪɧɐ, naɐ̯k, !au, ze:lɪɧ, ʃtu:m, ʀaut, lɛɐ̯ts, pfaɐ̯p, ki:ɐ̯
væ:m, dɛɧ, naɐ̯k, !au, ze:ʟəɧ, ʃtu:m, ʀəut, lɛɐ̯ts, pfaɐ̯p, ki:ɐ̯
ve:m, dɛɧ, naak, !oo, zi:ʟəɧ, ʃtaum, ʀaut, ljaats, pfaap, kaiɐ
ve:m, dɛɧ, naak, !oo, zi:ŋɧ, tʰaum, ʕaut, ljaas, faap, kaiɐ
fe:m (l -p m), ɗɛj (l -p b), naak (l -p g), !oo (h -p m), si:ŋ (l -p b), tʰaum (h -p m), 'aut (l -p g), ljaa (l -p b), faap (h -p g), kaiɐ (h -p m)
- 1 wahm: viềm
- 2 discher: đẫy
- 3 narg: nộc
- 4 muhl: màng
- 5 sälisch: xỡng
- 6 stuom: thim
- 7 rut: ứt
- 8 lerz: lỡ
- 9 pfarb: vốp
- 10 kior: ra
- 100 däll: đầng
- 1000 seit: xượt
- 10000 krüeb: kệp
- 11 (dozenal): gepfod: phứt
- 12 (dozenal): gepfemm: phâm
- 12^2 zann: xăn
- 12^3 uog: ích
Letters
- T: Trabe > tˁɑɑp > độp
- G: Galst > galʔ > kwaʔ > quạ
- K: Kohl > kool > koow (h -p m) > củ > cư
- W: Wier > vjaʔ > vaʔ > vạ > vơ
- N: Narch > naaç > naaj (l -p b) > noi > nổi
- Q: Kried > qˁeit > keit (h +p g) > kiệt
- L: Lecken > *Leck > EMW lek > LMW lek (l -p g) > lậc
- P: Pfut > faut > ... > vát
- C: Ang > ʔaŋ > ăng
- Ŧ: Ŧeib > ǃeip (Canadian raising!) > chiếp
- J: Jamm > dằm
- F: Fitt - pretty sure it's vết
- M: Mersch > maa (l -p b) > mả > mở
- D: Dachel > EMW daxu > LMW ɗoo (l -p b) (with compensatory lengthening) > đủ > đử
- Đ: Đruche > EMW g!ˁoux > !ow (l +p b) > !xẻo > chảo
- R: Rift > EMW ʕeft > ʔew (l +p g) > ếu > éo
- S: Schnade > nʰeit > ... > niết
- ß: Discherschnader > *discher Schnade > đẫy niết
- H: Hammel > hamu > hom (h -p m) > hỏm > hôm
- B: Bruog > EMW bˁook > ɓook (l +p +g) > bức
- Z: Zamm > xăm
- I: *ii > ai > ai > aa > ưa
- U: uu > au > au > ea > a
- E: ee > ii > ii > ơi?
- O: oo > uu > uu > yy > i
- A: aa > ei > ia > ia
Phonology
Based on Vietnamese. Pinyin in bold.
Consonants
| Labial | Dental | Alveolar | Click | Palatal | Velar | Uvular | Glottal | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nasal | m /m/ | n /n̪/ | nh /ɲ/ | ng /ŋ/ | |||||
| Plosive | plain | p /p/ | t /t̪/ | tr /ǃ/ | ch /c~tɕ/ | c, qu /k/ | k /q/ | Ø /ʔ-/ | |
| implosive | b /ɓ/ | đ /ɗ/ | |||||||
| Fricative | voiceless | x /s/ | s /ɧ/ | h /h/ | |||||
| voiced | v /v/ | d /ð/ | gi /z/ | g /ɣ/ | |||||
| Affricate | ph /pf/ | th /ts/ | kh /kx/ | ||||||
| Trill | r /r/ | ||||||||
| Approximant | ł, o, u /w/ | l /l/ | j /j/ | ||||||
Vowels
| Front | Central | Back | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Close | i, y /i/ | ư /ɨ/ | u /u/ |
| Close-mid | ê /e/ | ơ /ɤ/ | ô /o/ |
| Open-mid | e /ɛ/ | â /ə̆/ | o /ɔ/ |
| Open | ă /ă/ a /a/ | ||
LMW > Early Reber Wiebian
An Bhlaoighne-style tone mergers
-phar:
h -p b: hoi
h -p g: sac
h -p m: ngang
l -p b: nga
l -p g: nang
l -p m: huyen
+phar:
h +p b: huyen
h +p g: nang
h +p m: hoi
l +p b: ngang
l +p g: sac
l +p m: nga
Consonant shift
Vowel shifts
I need Late Middle Wiebian (placeholder name) > Early Viet gib Wieb
Perhaps I'll start with au > eaa
because we need luh > là
funny that even the tone matches
Sie should become 'shi' in your chinese gib
zi: > zaj > zʲeai > Si (central vowel) > shi
/ʂɻ̩/
all the same tone!
yes
that would make a great Chinese parody
I should have a language named Shi
1: shi1
2: shi4
3: shi2
4: shi4
5: shi3
6: shi4
7: shi1
8: shi3
9: shi1
10: shi2
how do you tell the difference between 1, 7 and 9?
it's a jokelang
grin emoticon
like everything in Kuusi Palaa is "kuusi palaa"
yes
ɑɑ > ɔɔ
ææ > eə̆
btw the word for 'not' in Gussnish, 'owwan' is just the exlocative of 'la'
is o-S the exlocative?
or was it on-?
ow-S(genitive)
sorry
ow-
æn / sæn
me / ow
rø / tsø
λø / ød
?? / ??
in / not in
with / without
?? / ??
to / not to (used in negative imperatives)
in / not in
with / without
like / unlike
the first two don't trigger séimhiú but the rest do
jia > iə
ɥa, ɥø > wiə (uya, uyê-)
Zürde ('offering') > xuyết
nice!
ɥa, ɥø, ɥya > wiə
I probably won't be able to get all the viet rimes
wo wua > uə
actually
ɥa > wɛ?
ɥø > we
yy > uy
/wi/
oo > ô:
> u:
uu > ɨɨ
ou > ô:?
ei > ê:?
øy > ơ:?
ai > ay in open syllables, ɛ: in closed?
same for ay
au > au in open syllables, ɔ: o in closed?
jaa sounds like eaa from au
let's merge them
waa > oa /wa:/
ɥaa > ?
ưa?
that's a good idea
əa > ə:
øø > ə:?
ơi?
the problem: where do I get -j finals?
I should have vowel reflexes specific to open syllables
yes
or have AW -l -> -j
like in Viet
how?
Viet cây (tree) ~ Mương câl
Viet mười < Proto-Vietic *maal
some -j finals are not allowed in vietnamese
for example after /e/
just merge them
về ~ Muong wềl
- êy -> ê
that's one option
or alter the nucleus
êy -> ây?
- êy > ơi
yes
we went over
ɑ > o
æ > ă
e. ø > â
i > ê
o > o
u > ô
y > ơ
ii should move out of the way
to a diphthong
ơi?
øø > ươi(?)
i forgot wa > oă
perhaps ei ou øy should become ơi ơu ơi
in open syllables
I need to look at each Viet rime and ask "how can I get it?"
don't care much about oeo, uyu
viet does have quẹo
i can get -w from -f and -ft
Grammar
Copula
The copula is luh (là - just like in Vietnamese!).
Pronouns
Correlatives
- mahr: like this
- ahr: like that
- jahr: how?