Swyr/Swadesh list

Not to be confused with Schwünter.

fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, sjə̤jl, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
coda -l deleted
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
-wC, -jC simplify to -C
fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, fwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
f- > h-
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨw, sjə̤j, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S

yes

vowel shift?
yes
monophthongization!
ha:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mu:, sje: (breathy), tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S

at least 4 is not mul smile emoticon
i can't bother tracking vowel length in korean
it's not phonemic for me

well you told me it is a few days ago grin emoticon
it isn't phonemic for many, many people
so vowel length just disappears

could it cause a tone split?

as in Cuatham, but a different one
let's make the long vowels high or rising tones

so high, mid, low and rising

low could be falling
low < breathy
as in cuatham

high, mid, falling, rising

yes

mid could be slightly mid falling

falling = high falling

so it's like upside down Mandarin

or maybe not

vowel length should just disappear
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨt, ljə̤t, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

t->ɭ
yes
l- > ɾ-

yes
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hwɨɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

wɨ?

is that a korean diphthong?
that should become something else
as it's not a korean diphthong

a
or wa

grin emoticon
what about wɨ > ə or wə?

wɨ -> we

휄
nope
e + any final doesn't sound sino-korean
wɨ > o?

홃
ham, djə̤-S, njək, mu, sje̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S

no, that's 7

8 should be 렯
final ㅂ = breathy tone?

it could be one way
that wouldn't work tho
for open syllables
some more initial simplification

it's normally h but 렯 for 8 is an exception
hahaha
I see what you did there
여덟
tj-, !j-, sj > tɕ-, |-, s-
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kjə-S
kjə doesn't looks sino-korean
kje? ki? ka?

껴

what about khjə?
nââââeeeuw

why?
idea: schnueher could be the sino-korean jokelang
that has all the missing syllables that should be there

켜다 • (kyeoda) (infinitive 켜어, sequential 켜니)
(…을) To light an oil lamp or candle; strike a match or lighter [quotations ▼]
(…을) To turn something on [quotations ▼]
but it's not sino
that's why
yeo, nyeo, ryeo, jeo, cheo are sino
not byeo or gyeo
maybe I should palatalize kj
nope
i need things like gye
and gyo (as in hakgyo 'school')

that's not schnueher tongue emoticon
what about
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwəm, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

yes
tʰwəm doesn't sound sino-korean either
what do you mean 퉘

thəm?
what about wə > wa first

thwam
then what about 권 as in 태권도
but under that assumption
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰwam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

use quell
syllables that are -wol, -won in sino-korean are things like -jwet, -jwen in middle chinese

anyway
then wa > a after labials and coronals
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S

isn't it a giblang so you can use nonexistent syllables?
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, kə-S
ham, dʑə̤-S, njək, mu, se̤, tʰam, hoɭ, ɾjə̤ɭ, pʰjə̤p, gə-S
함, 저, 녁, 무, 세, 탐, 홀, 렬, 볍 (not in sino-korean), 거

Phonology

Inspired by Sino-Korean (rimes) and Irish (initials).

Initials

Swyr/Swadesh list initials

		Labial	Alveolar	Coarticulated	Velar	Uvular	Glottal
Nasal	voiceless	sm, bpr /m̊/	sn, dtr /n̊/	đŧr /ŋ̊!/	gcr /ŋ̊/
	voiced	m, mb /m/	n, nd /n/	nđ /ŋ!/	ng /ŋ/
Stop	tenuis	p /p/	t /t/	ŧ /ǃ/	c /k/		Ø, fh /ʔ/
	aspirated	pr, hp /pʰ/	tr, ht /tʰ/	ŧr, hŧ /ǃʰ/	cr, hc /kʰ/
	voiced	b, bp /b/	d, dt /d/	đ, đŧ /ɡǃ/	g, gc /ɡ/
Fricative	aspirated	f, ph /f/	s /s/	sc, ŧh /ɧ/	ch /x/		h, th, sh /h/
	voiced	bh, bhf, mh /v~w/	ns /z/	nsc, đh /ɧ̬/	dh, gh /ɣ/
Liquid	voiceless		sl /l̥~ɾ̊/			sr /ʀ̊/
	voiced		l /l~ɾ/			r /ʀ/

Rimes

Lifted from Sino-Korean; spelled like Revised Romanization. Unlike in Sino-Korean, almost any initial-rime combination is allowed.

Grammar

Nouns

Nouns inflect for two cases, nominative and genitive. The genitive derives from the Ancient Wiebian dative.

Definite article an

The definite article has a different tone from the syllable following it.

Number	Singular		Plural
Gender	Masculine	Feminine	Masculine	Feminine
Nominative	an	an-L	na-N	na-L
Genitive	an-H	na-L	na-H	na-N

Number	Singular		Plural
Gender	Masculine	Feminine	Masculine	Feminine
Nominative	an càe an ák	an fyéong an èul	na gcàe na n-ák	na fhyéong na èul
Genitive	an hcáe an h-àk	na fhyéong na èul	na hcàe na h-ák	na bhfyéong na n-èul