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'''Thurish''' /ˈθɚrɪʃ/ ''THER-ish'' (natively ''þawrysko'', ''þawrysk gwered'' /θəwˈrɨsk gwered/ or more formally ''þawrysk wordrad''; ''þawrysk'' is cognate to Russian север 'north') is a Balto-Slavic language spoken in our Norway and Sweden (its speakers are called "the Thurs" in English). It evolved in a sprachbund with English, Brythonic languages and [[Hivatish]]. It's the most spoken Balto-Slavic language in the [[Verse:Unbegotten|Unbegotten]] timeline. It has some non-SAE features, such as split-ergativity (conditioned by tense as in Hindi).
'''Thurish''' /ˈθɚrɪʃ/ ''THER-ish'' (natively ''þawrysko'', ''þawrysk górăd'' /θəwˈrɨsk gorəd/ or more formally ''þawrysk gordrad''; ''þawrysk'' is cognate to Russian север 'north') is an IE language isolate spoken in our Norway and Sweden (its speakers are called "the Thurs" in English). It evolved in a sprachbund with Brythonic languages and [[Hivantish]]. It has some non-SAE features, such as split-ergativity (conditioned by tense as in Hindi). Stress is weakly final (penultimate in "segolates").


Thurish is a stem-Slavic language, meaning that it is descended from a dialect of early Proto-Slavic but not Common Slavic. Some palatalization had already occurred by Proto-Thurish (meaning the stage immediately after the hypothetical split from our Slavic) but later sound changes turned the palatalized consonants into geminates or "Greekified" them (lj > ľľ > ɬ; nj > ňň > jn; śj, tj > śś, ćć > θ, etc.).
Thurish sound changes turned the palatalized consonants into geminates or "Greekified" them (lj > ľľ > ɬ; nj > ňň > jn; śj, tj > śś, ćć > θ, etc.). Proto-Thurish had something similar to the PBS acute, which made vowels RTR/lax and thus had RTR-like effects on vowels (i > e, u > o, a > o in some cases; lack of acute conditions aR > eR).


Thurish has lost the Balto-Slavic pitch accent system. Some vowel reflexes differ by accent; the PBS acute makes vowels RTR and thus has RTR-like effects on vowels (i > e, u > o, a > o in some cases; lack of acute conditions aR > eR). Stress is weakly final.
It is inspired by Welsh, Greek, and Hebrew.


It is inspired by Welsh, Greek, and Hebrew.
TODO: change name


PBS *dōra, *źemē, *waljā, *źwēris > *dōrə, *źemmē₁, *wallā, *ẑē₁rɨ > duar, jemne, gwəllo, ghieră /duər, jɛmnɛ, gwəɬɔ, ʀiərɨ/ "gift, earth, pleasure, animal"
PBS *dōra, *źemē, *waljā, *źwēris > *dōrə, *źemmē₁, *wallā, *ẑē₁rɨ > duar, jemne, gwəllo, ghieră /duər, jɛmnɛ, gwəɬɔ, ʀiərɨ/ "gift, earth, pleasure, animal"
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*dʰer-mos > dermas 'is suitable' > derm "good" (~ firmus, dharma)
*dʰer-mos > dermas 'is suitable' > derm "good" (~ firmus, dharma)


Ăh gworðon þawryske derm /əx gwɐr'ðɔn θəwrɨs'kɛ 'dɛrɛm/ = I speak Thurish well
Ăh gorðon þawryske derm /əx gɐr'ðɔn θəwrɨs'kɛ 'dɛrɛm/ = I speak Thurish well


giwiþ = to live
giwiþ = to live


TODO: Russian/Hebrew-esque vowel reduction
TODO: Russian/Hebrew-esque vowel reduction; should have some Tocharian style weirdness


==Phonology==
==Phonology==
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|-
|-
!
!
! colspan=2| ''gwylk'' = wolf
! colspan=2| ''gwylek'' = wolf
! colspan=2| ''guolo'' = head  
! colspan=2| ''guolo'' = head  
! colspan=2| ''morr'' /mor̥/ = sea
! colspan=2| ''morr'' /mor̥/ = sea
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|-
|-
|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|''gwylk'' ||''gwylke''
|''gwylek'' ||''gwylke''
|''guolo'' ||''guolos''
|''guolo'' ||''guolos''
|''morr''  ||''morre''
|''morr''  ||''morre''
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|align="right" |'''Accusative'''
|align="right" |'''Accusative'''
|''gwerná''  ||''gwranú''
|''gwerná''  ||''gwranú''
|''gwarnó''  ||''gwarnós''
|''gwarnós''  ||''gwarnú''
|-
|-
|align="right" |'''Oblique-Ergative'''
|align="right" |'''Oblique-Ergative'''
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!
!
! colspan=2| ''gwerrma'' = time (m.)
! colspan=2| ''gwerrma'' = time (m.)
! colspan=2| ''korma'' = result (m.)
! colspan=2| ''karma'' = punishment (m.)
|-
|-
!
!
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|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
|''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
|''korma''  ||''kormyno''
|''karma''  ||''karmyno''
|-
|-
|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
|''gwerrmyn''  ||''gwerrmynu''
|''gwerrmyn''  ||''gwerrmynu''
|''kormyn''  ||''kormynu''
|''karmyn''  ||''karmynu''
|-
|-
|align="right" |'''Accusative'''
|align="right" |'''Accusative'''
|''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
|''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
|''korma''  ||''kormyno''
|''karma''  ||''karmyno''
|-
|-
|align="right" |'''Oblique-Ergative'''
|align="right" |'''Oblique-Ergative'''
|''gwerrmyni''  ||''gwerrmynăn''
|''gwerrmyni''  ||''gwerrmynăn''
|''kormyni''  ||''kormynăn''
|''karmyni''  ||''karmynăn''
|-
|-
|align="right"|'''Vocative'''
|align="right"|'''Vocative'''
|''gwerrma!''  ||''gwerrmyno!''
|''gwerrma!''  ||''gwerrmyno!''
|''korma!''  ||''kormyno!''
|''karma!''  ||''karmyno!''
|}
|}
(''Korma'' is the in-universe source of English ''karma''; it began as a slang term borrowed from Thurish immigrants.)
(''karma'' is the in-universe source of English ''karma''; it began as a slang term borrowed from Thurish immigrants.)


===Pronouns===
===Pronouns===
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make vocab less slavic


'''''Wyse llawðe sy răðis sobyne i arwyne yn sne gădynaþi i 'n snăn tiestwăn. Saws se yndărote su arrumi i săwesti i saws winyne păstămpoþ nopăr inin yn dawsi broþărtwa.''
'''''Wyse llawðe sy răðis sobyne i arwyne yn sne gădynaþi i 'n snăn tiestwăn. Saws se yndărote su arrumi i săwesti i saws winyne yþajoþ nopăr inin yn dawsi broþărtwa.''


/wɨˈsɛ ɬəwˈðɛ sɨ rəˈðis sobɨˈnɛ i arʊɨˈnɛ ɨn snɛ gədɨnaˈθi i‿n snən tiəstˈwən. səws sɛ ɨndərɔˈtɛ su ar̥ʊˈmi i səwɛsˈti i səws winɨˈnɛ pəstəmˈpɔθ ˈnɔpər inˈin ɨn dəwˈsi broθərˈtwa./
/wɨˈsɛ ɬəwˈðɛ sɨ rəˈðis sobɨˈnɛ i arʊɨˈnɛ ɨn snɛ gədɨnaˈθi i‿n snən tiəstˈwən. səws sɛ ɨndərɔˈtɛ su ar̥ʊˈmi i səwɛsˈti i səws winɨˈnɛ θajɔθ ˈnɔpər inˈin ɨn dəwˈsi broθərˈtwa./


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