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* If the person spoken of is respected (of higher rank), then the appropriate formula is used the first time they're mentioned, then the norm is to use a shorter form - in this case, a form like ''yamei Læhimausa murkadhāna'' is accepted, while it is not when speaking directly to that person. The higher rank that person is, usually the longer it takes to completely shift to a shorter form — e.g. while the Great Inquisitor will not be referred to every time as ''nanū aveṣyotāra lallāmaha Hæliyǣšāvi yamei Dhīvajhūyai Lairē camimurkadhāna lāma'', it will not probably get shorter than ''nanū aveṣyotāra yamei lallāmaha'' ([Her] Respectable Most Excellent Highness) or ''nanū aveṣyotāra lallāmaha camimurkadhāna'' ([Her] Most Excellent Highness, the Great Inquisitor); | * If the person spoken of is respected (of higher rank), then the appropriate formula is used the first time they're mentioned, then the norm is to use a shorter form - in this case, a form like ''yamei Læhimausa murkadhāna'' is accepted, while it is not when speaking directly to that person. The higher rank that person is, usually the longer it takes to completely shift to a shorter form — e.g. while the Great Inquisitor will not be referred to every time as ''nanū aveṣyotāra lallāmaha Hæliyǣšāvi yamei Dhīvajhūyai Lairē camimurkadhāna lāma'', it will not probably get shorter than ''nanū aveṣyotāra yamei lallāmaha'' ([Her] Respectable Most Excellent Highness) or ''nanū aveṣyotāra lallāmaha camimurkadhāna'' ([Her] Most Excellent Highness, the Great Inquisitor); | ||
* If the person spoken of is of equal rank, in a polite context they'll be referred to with ''tanta'' (the usual title for equal grades), or ''lāma''; | * If the person spoken of is of equal rank, in a polite context they'll be referred to with ''tanta'' (the usual title for equal grades), or ''lāma''; | ||
* The use of the bare given name (or matronymic or surname) and of the informal name follow the same guidelines as when talking to that person. Note that, though, in a family context it will be more common to use the names of older family members in order to disambiguate about them (e.g. ''Amabu paṣmeinā ukula Læhimausa paṣmeinā prišniliukula no'' (Grandma Amabu has spoken and Grandma Læhimausa has answered [her]). | * The use of the bare given name (or matronymic or surname) and of the informal name follow the same guidelines as when talking to that person. Note that, though, in a family context it will be more common to use the names of older family members in order to disambiguate about them (e.g. ''Amabu ga paṣmeinā ukula Læhimausa ga paṣmeinā prišniliukula no'' (Grandma Amabu has spoken and Grandma Læhimausa has answered [her]). | ||
The second- and third-person pronouns used with the various honorific styles also vary. See [[Chlouvānem/Morphology#Honorific_pronouns|the respective section of the Grammar]] for more details. | The second- and third-person pronouns used with the various honorific styles also vary. See [[Chlouvānem/Morphology#Honorific_pronouns|the respective section of the Grammar]] for more details. | ||