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 Inspiration: Old Chinese, [[Heleasic]], Akkadian, Amharic
-In [[Verse:Irta|Irta]], Far East Semitic is one of the major branches of Semitic. Proto-Far East Semitic was a prestige language of Southeast Asia. It's in a clade with Akkadian. It was first observed to be related to other Semitic languages by the linguist Teann-Gà' Fén, himself a native speaker of both [[Cuam]] and Far East Semitic.
+In [[Verse:Irta|Irta]], Far East Semitic is one of the major branches of Semitic.
 Loans from Old Chinese and Sino-IE in addition to the usual SEA families (except Austronesian)
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 Verner's law in random words? plax "to open" <- *pdax <- *phthax
-lhor "king", mëlkh "prince"?
+lhor "king", mələkh "prince"?
-(ğurayb >) ''qraib'' "crow, raven" > ''qhaiv'' in Hmooblang
+(ğurayb >) ''qraib'' "crow, raven"
 hlān 'language'
-nəps "soul" -> npos in Hmooblang
+nəphəs "soul"
-nəphle "to fall" -> nplhe in Hmooblang?
+nəphle "to fall"
 bəihl "egg"
 qe "egg" in Hmooblang (from a substrate)
-Hmooblang should have two "fangyans", one tonal with Hmong tone values and another "literally read" (inspiration: Lhasa vs Amdo Tibetan)
 Lots of dvandvas
-Final tav likes to become -h/breathy voice
+bayth X = expert in X
-bayh: world/homeland (for a coincidence with bith)
+šmay 2ərətlh: world
-šmay artlh: world
+Gmad = to resist
-Gmad = to oppose, to resist
 Gəmed = to support (same sense as Arabic 3amada)
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 yiθ = there is, liθ = there is not (yiθ becomes 'have' in later languages: *nā yiθ phkar 'I have cows')
-Gabd 'slave' > qawd '(humble) I' in Hmooblang
+Gabəd 'slave'
+laqhəm 'fish' (< 'food')
+t=ār 'bird'
+ts⁼pʰur 'bird'
 ==Family tree==
 *Proto-Far East Semitic (~ 500 AD)
-** [[Far East Semitic/Hmooblang]]: literally read Hmoob gib, possibly with tones? (greeting: ''Schlaub lag!'')
+** [[Far East Semitic/Tonal Semitic]]: A language with two tones from the register split and lots of preinitials. Irta's only tonal Semlang.
 **hyperconservative Far East Semitic
 Far East Semitic is phonologically one of the more conservative branches of Semitic, with different reflexes for almost all the consonants of Proto-Semitic. Morphologically, though, it is the exact opposite -- it is a rather typical Southeast Asian sprachbund language even in the proto-stage.
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 *p b t ṭ d k q g ħ ʕ -> ph b th t d kh k g x ɣ~ɢ
 *m n l r w y -> m n l ɹ w j
-*θ θ̣ ð s ṣ z ś ṣ́ š x ɣ h -> θ θ ð s ts z~dz l̥ l̥~ts (from koineization) š qʰ q h
+*θ θ̣ ð s ṣ z ś ṣ́ š x ɣ h -> θ θ ð s ts z~dz l̥ tl̥~ts (from koineization) š qʰ q h
 Vowels: i ɨ u e ə o a ā
-''p'' shows up by assimilation or in loanwords from Indo-European and Sino-Tibetan languages.
+''p'' and ''ŋ'' show up by assimilation or in loanwords from Indo-European and Sino-Tibetan languages.
-ɣašt, θian, l̥āθ, ɚbaɣ, qhamš, šɨš, šbaɣ, šmān, dɨšq, l̥əl
+ɣašt, θian, l̥āθ, ɚbaɣ, qhamš, šɨš, šbaɣ, šmān, dɨšq, l̥ər
-: l̥əl had, 12: l̥əl θian, etc.
+: l̥ər had, 12: l̥ər θian, etc.
 θina, l̥əθa, ɚbɣa, qhəmša, šɨša, šbəɣa, šməna, dɨšqa, mə'a
-əlp
+ələp
-,000: ləkš
+,000: ləkəš
 ,00,000: kot
--> aws, xiam, hlaus, plaub, qhaab, sws, pha, hmaum, dwg, hloj
 ==Orthography==
-Far East Semitic is written with an abugida inspired aesthetically by Ahom. The consonant letters are based on the Proto-Sinaitic abjad.
+Most Far East Semitic languages are written with an abugida inspired aesthetically by Ahom. The consonant letters are based on the Proto-Sinaitic abjad.
 ==Grammar==
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 As in English, Far East Semitic verbs are analytic with some vestigial ablaut; participial (with ''m-'') and verbnoun (with ''t-'' and other grammaticalized noun derivations) forms are common, as in modern Aramaic dialects. It's relatively unpredictable which Semitic verb root was assigned to which pattern (but it should correlate with the semantics of the noun patterns before they turned into verbs, e.g. agency)
 ==== Derivation ====
-Derivations that correspond to binyanim in other Semitic languages are more concatenative:
+Morphology that corresponds to binyanim in other Semitic languages are more concatenative and are used as triggers:
 *G-stem: xtab, xtob, xtib (agent trigger)
 ** D-stem: kʰətʰVb as opposed to xtVb should become an iterative?
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 the pa'al / pi'el distinction surfaces as initial clusters vs minor syllables
-mə- prefix for derived nouns -> prenasalization in the quasi-Hmoob language
+mə- prefix for derived nouns
 Some former VN patterns (also noun patterns)
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 * 2pl ''kʰmu wɨl~kʰmu kʰol~kʰmɨl''
-Largely replaced with rank pronouns in descendants in non-intimate speech except in the hyperconservative FES language, where directional adverbs are sometimes used instead of pronouns
+Largely replaced with kinship terms and rank pronouns in descendants in non-intimate speech except in the hyperconservative FES language, where directional adverbs are sometimes used instead of pronouns
 ==Derivation==
 ==Syntax==
-Proto-Far East Semitic syntax is close to Tagalog. It's a VSO language. Modern Far East Semitic languages though have a much more similar syntax to Thai, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew or Arabic.
+Proto-Far East Semitic syntax is close to Tagalog. It's a VSO language. Modern Far East Semitic languages have a much more similar syntax to Thai, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew or Arabic.
 [[Category:Semitic languages]]
+[[Category:Stem-Akkadian languages]]