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Inspiration: Old Chinese, [[Heleasic]], Akkadian, Amharic
Inspiration: Old Chinese, [[Heleasic]], Akkadian, Amharic


In [[Verse:Irta|Irta]], Far East Semitic is one of the major branches of Semitic. Proto-Far East Semitic was a prestige language of Southeast Asia. It's in a clade with Akkadian. It was first observed to be related to other Semitic languages by the linguist Eimh-Cla' Fian, himself a native speaker of both [[Cuam]] and Far East Semitic.
In [[Verse:Irta|Irta]], Far East Semitic is one of the major branches of Semitic.


Loans from Old Chinese and Sino-IE in addition to the usual SEA families (except Austronesian)
Loans from Old Chinese and Sino-IE in addition to the usual SEA families (except Austronesian)
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Verner's law in random words? plax "to open" <- *pdax <- *phthax
Verner's law in random words? plax "to open" <- *pdax <- *phthax


lhor "king", mëlkh "prince"?
lhor "king", mələkh "prince"?


(ğurayb >) ''qraib'' "crow, raven" > ''qhaiv'' in Hmooblang
(ğurayb >) ''qraib'' "crow, raven"


hlān 'language' (> Hmooblang hlaum)
hlān 'language'


nəpəs "soul" -> npws in Hmooblang
nəphəs "soul"


nəphle "to fall" -> nplhe in Hmooblang?
nəphle "to fall"


bəihl "egg"
bəihl "egg"
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Lots of dvandvas
Lots of dvandvas


Final tav likes to become -h/breathy voice
bayth X = expert in X


bayh: world/homeland (for a coincidence with bith)
šmay 2ərətlh: world


šmay artlh: world
Gmad = to resist
 
Gmad = to oppose, to resist


Gəmed = to support (same sense as Arabic 3amada)
Gəmed = to support (same sense as Arabic 3amada)
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yiθ = there is, liθ = there is not (yiθ becomes 'have' in later languages: *nā yiθ phkar 'I have cows')
yiθ = there is, liθ = there is not (yiθ becomes 'have' in later languages: *nā yiθ phkar 'I have cows')


Gabəd 'slave' > qawd (奴) '(humble) I' in Hmooblang
Gabəd 'slave'


laqhəm 'fish' (< 'food') > nqhwb
laqhəm 'fish' (< 'food')


t=ār 'bird' > tiaj (禽) 'fowl, chicken' (aar > iaj)
t=ār 'bird'


ts⁼pʰur 'bird' > txhuj (鳥) 'bird, esp. passerine'
ts⁼pʰur 'bird'


==Family tree==
==Family tree==
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Vowels: i ɨ u e ə o a ā
Vowels: i ɨ u e ə o a ā


''p'' shows up by assimilation or in loanwords from Indo-European and Sino-Tibetan languages.
''p'' and ''ŋ'' show up by assimilation or in loanwords from Indo-European and Sino-Tibetan languages.


ɣašt, θian, l̥āθ, ɚbaɣ, qhamš, šɨš, šbaɣ, šmān, dɨšq, l̥əl
ɣašt, θian, l̥āθ, ɚbaɣ, qhamš, šɨš, šbaɣ, šmān, dɨšq, l̥ər


11: l̥əl had, 12: l̥əl θian, etc.
11: l̥ər had, 12: l̥ər θian, etc.


θina, l̥əθa, ɚbɣa, qhəmša, šɨša, šbəɣa, šməna, dɨšqa, mə'a
θina, l̥əθa, ɚbɣa, qhəmša, šɨša, šbəɣa, šməna, dɨšqa, mə'a
əlp
ələp
100,000: ləkš
100,000: ləkəš
100,00,000: kot
100,00,000: kot
-> aws, xiam, hlaus, plaub, qhaab, sws, pha, hmaum, dwg, hloj


==Orthography==
==Orthography==
Most Far East Semitic languages are written with an abugida inspired aesthetically by Ahom. The consonant letters are based on the Proto-Sinaitic abjad.
Most Far East Semitic languages are written with an abugida inspired aesthetically by Ahom. The consonant letters are based on the Proto-Sinaitic abjad.
One FES language historically used a Chu Nom-like system.


==Grammar==
==Grammar==
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As in English, Far East Semitic verbs are analytic with some vestigial ablaut; participial (with ''m-'') and verbnoun (with ''t-'' and other grammaticalized noun derivations) forms are common, as in modern Aramaic dialects. It's relatively unpredictable which Semitic verb root was assigned to which pattern (but it should correlate with the semantics of the noun patterns before they turned into verbs, e.g. agency)
As in English, Far East Semitic verbs are analytic with some vestigial ablaut; participial (with ''m-'') and verbnoun (with ''t-'' and other grammaticalized noun derivations) forms are common, as in modern Aramaic dialects. It's relatively unpredictable which Semitic verb root was assigned to which pattern (but it should correlate with the semantics of the noun patterns before they turned into verbs, e.g. agency)
==== Derivation ====
==== Derivation ====
Morphologybthat corresponds to binyanim in other Semitic languages are more concatenative and are used as triggers:
Morphology that corresponds to binyanim in other Semitic languages are more concatenative and are used as triggers:
*G-stem: xtab, xtob, xtib (agent trigger)
*G-stem: xtab, xtob, xtib (agent trigger)
** D-stem: kʰətʰVb as opposed to xtVb should become an iterative?
** D-stem: kʰətʰVb as opposed to xtVb should become an iterative?
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the pa'al / pi'el distinction surfaces as initial clusters vs minor syllables
the pa'al / pi'el distinction surfaces as initial clusters vs minor syllables


mə- prefix for derived nouns -> prenasalization in the quasi-Hmoob language
mə- prefix for derived nouns


Some former VN patterns (also noun patterns)
Some former VN patterns (also noun patterns)
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* 2pl ''kʰmu wɨl~kʰmu kʰol~kʰmɨl''
* 2pl ''kʰmu wɨl~kʰmu kʰol~kʰmɨl''


Largely replaced with rank pronouns in descendants in non-intimate speech except in the hyperconservative FES language, where directional adverbs are sometimes used instead of pronouns
Largely replaced with kinship terms and rank pronouns in descendants in non-intimate speech except in the hyperconservative FES language, where directional adverbs are sometimes used instead of pronouns


==Derivation==
==Derivation==
==Syntax==
==Syntax==
Proto-Far East Semitic syntax is close to Tagalog. It's a VSO language. Modern Far East Semitic languages though have a much more similar syntax to Thai, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew or Arabic.
Proto-Far East Semitic syntax is close to Tagalog. It's a VSO language. Modern Far East Semitic languages have a much more similar syntax to Thai, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew or Arabic.


[[Category:Semitic languages]]
[[Category:Semitic languages]]
[[Category:Stem-Akkadian languages]]
[[Category:Stem-Akkadian languages]]
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