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/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/
/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/
== Indo-Arabic ==
== Arabic ==
=== "Arabs assimilate to Indian culture" ===
=== "Culturally Indian Arabic" ===
q k g ğ ng (g is a foreign phoneme)
q k g {{gh}} {{ng}}
C c j ž ny (zh is also foreign)
ts{{phar}} t{{sh}} j {{ž}} nj
T t d δ n
t{{phar}} t d ð n
P f b b m (P is added)
p{{phar}} f b b m  
y r l w š S s h
y r l w š s{{phar}} s h


Skt CiCāCa gets borrowed as Stem III
Skt CiCāCa gets borrowed as Stem III
=== "Indian MSA analogous to Indian English" ===
 
=== Non-Persianized Indian reading tradition ===
2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y
2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y
== Hiberno-MSA ==
{{aleph}}+ b+ t+ t+ d{{ž}}+ h{{phar}} x d+ d+ r z+ s+ {{sh}} s d t d {{aleph}}{{phar}} {{gh}} f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+


(+ = causes a u ā ū to become e y e: y:)
# [besmeˈl{{den}}:a:he r:ɐh{{phar}}ˈma:n{{den}}e r:ɐˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ʔəl{{den}} ˈh{{phar}}ɐmɖo l{{den}}eˈl{{den}}:a:he ˈrəb:el{{den}} ʔ{{phar}}a:l{{den}}əˈmi:n{{den}}]
# [ʔər:ɑh{{phar}}ˈma:n{{den}}e r:ɐˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ˈma:l{{den}}ekʰe ˈjəwme ˈɖ:i:n{{den}}]
# [ʔi:ˈja:kʰə ˈn{{den}}ɐʔ{{phar}}boɖo ʋə ˈʔi:ˈja:kʰə n{{den}}əʂʈʰɐˈʔ{{phar}}ɐi:n{{den}}]
# [ˈʔehɖen{{den}}a: s{{uvu}}:ɛˈra:t{{den}}{{uvu}}ʌl{{den}} moʂʈʰəˈqi:m]
# [s{{uvu}}ɛˈra:t{{den}}{{uvu}}ə l{{den}}:əˈd{{den}}i:n{{den}}ə ʔən{{den}}ˈʔ{{phar}}ɐmʈʰə ʔ{{phar}}ɐˈl{{den}}əjhem ˈgʰəjrel{{den}} məgʰˈz{{uvu}}u:be ʔ{{phar}}ɐˈləjhem ʋəl{{den}}a: ˈd{{den}}{{uvu}}:ɑ:l{{den}}:i:n{{den}}]
 
=== Irish reading of Arabic ===
{{aleph}}+ b+ t+~θ+ t+~θ+ d{{ž}}+ h{{phar}} x d+ d+ r{{vel}} z+ s+ {{sh}}+ s{{vel}} z{{vel}} d{{vel}} z{{vel}} {{aleph}}{{phar}} {{gh}} f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+
 
(+ = causes following a u ā ū to become ɛ ʊ̈ e:~æ: ü:)
 
# [bɪsmɪˈl:ɛ:hɪ r{{vel}}:ɑh{{phar}}ˈmɛ:nɪ r:{{vel}}:ɑˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ʔəl ˈh{{phar}}ɑmdʊ̈ lɪl:ˈlɛ:hɪ ˈr{{vel}}ɑb:ɪl ʔ{{phar}}a:ləˈmi:n]
# [ʔər{{vel}}:ɑh{{phar}}ˈmɛ:nɪ r:{{vel}}:ɑˈh{{phar}}ɐi:m]
# [ˈmɛ:lɪcʰɪ ˈjɛ̈wmɪ ˈd:i:n]
# [ʔi:ˈjɛ:cʰə ˈnæʔ{{phar}}p⁼ʊ̈dʊ̈ və ʔi:ˈjɛ:cʰə nəstʰæˈʔ{{phar}}ɐi:n]
# [ˈʔɪht⁼ɪnɛ: s{{vel}}:ëˈr{{vel}}ɑ:d{{den}}{{vel}}əl mʊ̈stʰəˈgi:m]
# [s{{vel}}ëˈr{{vel}}ɑ:d{{den}}{{vel}}ə l:əˈdi:nə ʔənˈʔ{{phar}}æmtʰə ʔ{{phar}}æˈlɛ̈ɪhɪm ˈɣɐjrɪl məɣˈz{{vel}}u:bɪ ʔ{{phar}}æˈlɛ̈ɪhɪm vəlɛ: ˈz{{vel}}:ɑ:l:i:n]

Latest revision as of 14:07, 30 July 2022

Irish reading tradition for an Indic language

-h's interpreted as lenition

retroflexes are ignored but Th and Dh become dental fricatives

should be for a middle Prakrit (a liturgical form of Sauraseni)

Jamaican/Finnish Latin

  • Ecclesiastical Latin ti -> tsi gone wild: in this dialect it becomes si
    • Reflexive pronouns disappear (since tibi and sibi merge)
  • ē, ō -> ie, uo (the opposite of Romance languages)
    • could create interesting false friends with Romance languages like "bacon"/"beer can"

Tonal Latin

  • louksnā -> lū̀ˀna

Traditional English pronunciation of Sanskrit

Idea: "What if Sanskrit had a reading tradition from Medieval England"

  • "Cerebrals" merge with dentals as in southeast Asian languages
  • Word-final nasal -ṃ merges with -m as in the traditional reading of Latin
  • Miraculously final -aḥ and -o merge into /-oʊ/, the former is an independent development from Prakrit languages -- it comes from the usual assimilation of "silent gh"

Rigveda

/ægnɪmaɪli pəroʊhitəm jædʒnəsjə diwəm əɹtwɪdʒəm hoʊteɪɹəm ɹætnəðeɪtəməm/

Arabic

"Culturally Indian Arabic"

q k g ɣ ŋ tsˁ tʃ j ʒ nj tˁ t d ð n pˁ f b b m y r l w š sˁ s h

Skt CiCāCa gets borrowed as Stem III

Non-Persianized Indian reading tradition

2 b Th t j h(phar) kh(emph) D d r z~jh s š s(emph) d(emph) t(emph) d(emph) 2(phar) gh(emph) f k(emph) kh l m n h v y

  1. [besmeˈl̪:a:he r:ɐhˁˈma:n̪e r:ɐˈhˁɐi:m]
  2. [ʔəl̪ ˈhˁɐmɖo l̪eˈl̪:a:he ˈrəb:el̪ ʔˁa:l̪əˈmi:n̪]
  3. [ʔər:ɑhˁˈma:n̪e r:ɐˈhˁɐi:m]
  4. [ˈma:l̪ekʰe ˈjəwme ˈɖ:i:n̪]
  5. [ʔi:ˈja:kʰə ˈn̪ɐʔˁboɖo ʋə ˈʔi:ˈja:kʰə n̪əʂʈʰɐˈʔˁɐi:n̪]
  6. [ˈʔehɖen̪a: sʶ:ɛˈra:t̪ʶʌl̪ moʂʈʰəˈqi:m]
  7. [sʶɛˈra:t̪ʶə l̪:əˈd̪i:n̪ə ʔən̪ˈʔˁɐmʈʰə ʔˁɐˈl̪əjhem ˈgʰəjrel̪ məgʰˈzʶu:be ʔˁɐˈləjhem ʋəl̪a: ˈd̪ʶ:ɑ:l̪:i:n̪]

Irish reading of Arabic

ʔ+ b+ t+~θ+ t+~θ+ dʒ+ hˁ x d+ d+ rˠ z+ s+ ʃ+ sˠ zˠ dˠ zˠ ʔˁ ɣ f+ g c+ l+ m+ n+ h+ v+ j+

(+ = causes following a u ā ū to become ɛ ʊ̈ e:~æ: ü:)

  1. [bɪsmɪˈl:ɛ:hɪ rˠ:ɑhˁˈmɛ:nɪ r:ˠ:ɑˈhˁɐi:m]
  2. [ʔəl ˈhˁɑmdʊ̈ lɪl:ˈlɛ:hɪ ˈrˠɑb:ɪl ʔˁa:ləˈmi:n]
  3. [ʔərˠ:ɑhˁˈmɛ:nɪ r:ˠ:ɑˈhˁɐi:m]
  4. [ˈmɛ:lɪcʰɪ ˈjɛ̈wmɪ ˈd:i:n]
  5. [ʔi:ˈjɛ:cʰə ˈnæʔˁp⁼ʊ̈dʊ̈ və ʔi:ˈjɛ:cʰə nəstʰæˈʔˁɐi:n]
  6. [ˈʔɪht⁼ɪnɛ: sˠ:ëˈrˠɑ:d̪ˠəl mʊ̈stʰəˈgi:m]
  7. [sˠëˈrˠɑ:d̪ˠə l:əˈdi:nə ʔənˈʔˁæmtʰə ʔˁæˈlɛ̈ɪhɪm ˈɣɐjrɪl məɣˈzˠu:bɪ ʔˁæˈlɛ̈ɪhɪm vəlɛ: ˈzˠ:ɑ:l:i:n]
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