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'''Tamizh''' is an Indo-European language spoken in [alternate history].
A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs as well as diachronic Dravidian ones
=Todo=
Conjugation of "to carry":
<poem>
peruva, peruvar, peruva, peruvóm, peruvai, peruven = future/habitual tense inflection
perutti, peruttir, perutti, peruttóm, peruttai, perutten = past tense inflection
perukir, perukir, perukir, perukiróm, perukirai, perukiren = present tense inflection


needs more TAM suffixes
==Kyravar Mazhi revamped==
</poem>
Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund


kuzhai = hill
Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh" through some kind of Czech ř-like sound (which can be dialectal)


ót(u)- = to run (from h₃ed- semantically drifted from 'hate')
mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?
 
h2er-t- 'order' (c.f. sanskrit ṛta, avestan arta) -> ārþ 'time' -> -árt (when) (like how clofabosin got sertib) -> -ál (if) (e.g. peruttál = if (someone) carried)
 
ariþ 'time'
 
límai 'lake'
 
aittru 'bear' (the animal)
 
toru 'house' (from *dóru 'wood' -> 'timber' -> 'house')
 
virat 'root'
 
þintu 'string'
 
tí 'fire' (from *dyéws 'sky' -> 'sun' -> 'fire')
 
kém 'ice' (from *ǵʰyems)
 
stáva, státti, stákir 'stand'
 
kwinsuva, kwinsutti, kwinsukir 'wander' (from *gʷem 'come/go' + -sḱe durative)
 
poríva, porítti, poríkir 'give' (from *bʰoreyeti)
 
firsuva, firsutti, firsukir 'deny' (from *pṛsḱe- 'ask' -> 'suspect' -> 'deny')
 
veippa, veitti, veikkir 'know' (from *weyd)
 
Vrippa, Vritti, Vrikkir 'believe' (to decide on V; from *ḱred-dʰeh3 'believe' -> hret- -> Vrit-, with the dʰeh3 reinterpreted as a perfective marker)
 
alispa, alisti, aliskir 'protect' (from *h₂léḱseti); ''aliskiren'' means "they are protecting"
 
orukíva, orukítti, orukíkir 'pull' (from *h₃roǵéyeti 'straighten' -> 'stretch' -> 'pull')
 
-mṇ -> -men -> -me -> -mai (abstract noun)
 
=Plan=
In the first stage, verbs develop aspect marking by suffixing -dheh3 and -bhuh2 (the first is perfective and the second imperfective, much like Welsh uses gwneud and bod).
 
In the second stage, the imperfective and perfective aspects turn into nonpast and past tenses, like what happened in Israeli Hebrew and Arabic. Erosion turns the suffixes into -v-/-pp-/-p- and -nt-/-tt-/-t- respectively (through Grimm-like sound changes: dh -> d -> t while old t -> þ; the nasal in -nt- comes from PIE verbs where -nu- is infixed in the present tense).
 
In the last stage, a new present tense is innovated from a combination of *gʰi- and *kʷel 'to turn', which gets morphed into a suffix -kir- (by a somewhat Persian-like sound change: l -> r, rd/rt -> l. and old *rH and *lH -> zh) Meanwhile, the old nonpast is used for both the habitual present and the future tense. Verbs analogically level into 7 classes with variations.
 
The syntax gets more head-final and agglutinative as it evolves (and grammatical gender gets correlated with lexical gender), and the modern form is practically Altaic.
 
=Phonology=
Ejectives from the glottalic theory
 
=Grammar=
 
-kki / -kku = dative case (from PIE *ǵʰes- 'hand')
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Latest revision as of 09:44, 26 July 2022

A sketchpad for Tamil- and Old Tamil-inspired conlangs as well as diachronic Dravidian ones

Kyravar Mazhi revamped

Dravidian but in our Balkan sprachbund

Phonology: loosely like Romanian/Bulgarian but with retroflexes? the old Tamil retroflex flap (which I believe is what evolved into the retroflex approximant) should officially become a fricative "zh" through some kind of Czech ř-like sound (which can be dialectal)

mãzhã "rain" /mɨʒə/?

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