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-'''Thurish''' /ˈθɚrɪʃ/ ''THER-ish'' (natively ''þawrysko'', ''þawrysk gwered'' /θəwˈrɨsk gwered/ or more formally ''þawrysk wordrad''; ''þawrysk'' is cognate to Russian север 'north') is a Balto-Slavic language spoken in our Norway and Sweden (its speakers are called "the Thurs" in English). It evolved in a sprachbund with English, Brythonic languages and [[Hivatish]]. It's the most spoken Balto-Slavic language in the [[Verse:Unbegotten|Unbegotten]] timeline. It has some non-SAE features, such as split-ergativity (conditioned by tense as in Hindi).
+'''Thurish''' /ˈθɚrɪʃ/ ''THER-ish'' (natively ''þawrysko'', ''þawrysk górăd'' /θəwˈrɨsk gorəd/ or more formally ''þawrysk gordrad''; ''þawrysk'' is cognate to Russian север 'north') is an IE language isolate spoken in our Norway and Sweden (its speakers are called "the Thurs" in English). It evolved in a sprachbund with Brythonic languages and [[Hivantish]]. It has some non-SAE features, such as split-ergativity (conditioned by tense as in Hindi). Stress is weakly final (penultimate in "segolates").
-Thurish is a stem-Slavic language, meaning that it is descended from a dialect of early Proto-Slavic but not Common Slavic. Some palatalization had already occurred by Proto-Thurish (meaning the stage immediately after the hypothetical split from our Slavic) but later sound changes turned the palatalized consonants into geminates or "Greekified" them (lj > ľľ > ɬ; nj > ňň > jn; śj, tj > śś, ćć > θ, etc.).
+Thurish sound changes turned the palatalized consonants into geminates or "Greekified" them (lj > ľľ > ɬ; nj > ňň > jn; śj, tj > śś, ćć > θ, etc.). Proto-Thurish had something similar to the PBS acute, which made vowels RTR/lax and thus had RTR-like effects on vowels (i > e, u > o, a > o in some cases; lack of acute conditions aR > eR).
-Thurish has lost the Balto-Slavic pitch accent system. Some vowel reflexes differ by accent; the PBS acute makes vowels RTR and thus has RTR-like effects on vowels (i > e, u > o, a > o in some cases; lack of acute conditions aR > eR). Stress is weakly final.
+It is inspired by Welsh, Greek, and Hebrew.
-It is inspired by Welsh, Greek, and Hebrew.
+TODO: change name
 PBS *dōra, *źemē, *waljā, *źwēris > *dōrə, *źemmē₁, *wallā, *ẑē₁rɨ > duar, jemne, gwəllo, ghieră /duər, jɛmnɛ, gwəɬɔ, ʀiərɨ/ "gift, earth, pleasure, animal"
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 *dʰer-mos > dermas 'is suitable' > derm "good" (~ firmus, dharma)
-Ăh gworðon þawryske derm /əx gwɐr'ðɔn θəwrɨs'kɛ 'dɛrɛm/ = I speak Thurish well
+Ăh gorðon þawryske derm /əx gɐr'ðɔn θəwrɨs'kɛ 'dɛrɛm/ = I speak Thurish well
 giwiþ = to live
-TODO: Russian/Hebrew-esque vowel reduction
+TODO: Russian/Hebrew-esque vowel reduction; should have some Tocharian style weirdness
 ==Phonology==
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 |align="right"|'''Nominative'''
 |''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
-|''karma''  ||''kormyno''
+|''karma''  ||''karmyno''
 |-
 |align="right"|'''Genitive'''
 |''gwerrmyn''  ||''gwerrmynu''
-|''kormyn''  ||''kormynu''
+|''karmyn''  ||''karmynu''
 |-
 |align="right" |'''Accusative'''
 |''gwerrma''  ||''gwerrmyno''
-|''karma''  ||''kormyno''
+|''karma''  ||''karmyno''
 |-
 |align="right" |'''Oblique-Ergative'''
 |''gwerrmyni''  ||''gwerrmynăn''
-|''kormyni''  ||''kormynăn''
+|''karmyni''  ||''karmynăn''
 |-
 |align="right"|'''Vocative'''
 |''gwerrma!''  ||''gwerrmyno!''
-|''karma!''  ||''kormyno!''
+|''karma!''  ||''karmyno!''
 |}
 (''karma'' is the in-universe source of English ''karma''; it began as a slang term borrowed from Thurish immigrants.)
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 make vocab less slavic
-'''''Wyse llawðe sy răðis sobyne i arwyne yn sne gădynaþi i 'n snăn tiestwăn. Saws se yndărote su arrumi i săwesti i saws winyne păstămpoþ nopăr inin yn dawsi broþărtwa.''
+'''''Wyse llawðe sy răðis sobyne i arwyne yn sne gădynaþi i 'n snăn tiestwăn. Saws se yndărote su arrumi i săwesti i saws winyne yþajoþ nopăr inin yn dawsi broþărtwa.''
-/wɨˈsɛ ɬəwˈðɛ sɨ rəˈðis sobɨˈnɛ i arʊɨˈnɛ ɨn snɛ gədɨnaˈθi i‿n snən tiəstˈwən. səws sɛ ɨndərɔˈtɛ su ar̥ʊˈmi i səwɛsˈti i səws winɨˈnɛ pəstəmˈpɔθ ˈnɔpər inˈin ɨn dəwˈsi broθərˈtwa./
+/wɨˈsɛ ɬəwˈðɛ sɨ rəˈðis sobɨˈnɛ i arʊɨˈnɛ ɨn snɛ gədɨnaˈθi i‿n snən tiəstˈwən. səws sɛ ɨndərɔˈtɛ su ar̥ʊˈmi i səwɛsˈti i səws winɨˈnɛ θajɔθ ˈnɔpər inˈin ɨn dəwˈsi broθərˈtwa./
-[[Category:Balto-Slavic languages]][[Category:Stem-Slavic]][[Category:Unbegotten]][[Category:Languages]][[Category:Indo-European languages]]
+[[Category:Balto-Slavic languages]][[Category:Languages]][[Category:Indo-European languages]]