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{{Ast}}-lja: Va. ''-lya'' "indicates negative polarity of verb"; El. ''-lya'' "indicates negative polarity of verb" | {{Ast}}-lja: Va. ''-lya'' "indicates negative polarity of verb"; El. ''-lya'' "indicates negative polarity of verb" | ||
{{Ast}}-aʔiC: Va. ''-ä'' "pronominal genitive-dative case suffix"; Elas. ''-á'' "dative case ending" | |||
:<sup>1</sup> — The original vowel cannot be reconstructed with safety as Va. shows /æ/ while El. has /a/; historically the equivalent of Va. /æ/ is El. /e/. It does not appear to be a reduced diphthong either as neither language shows a long vowel or diphthong. Furthermore, the Va. reflex shows /ht/ which is believed to usually originate from earlier /kt/-sequences. If the original stem contained /kt/ then the expected Elasian reflex would be **''pás'', reduced from **''paks'' as clusters of the /kts/-type in Elasian show t-deletion. | :<sup>1</sup> — The original vowel cannot be reconstructed with safety as Va. shows /æ/ while El. has /a/; historically the equivalent of Va. /æ/ is El. /e/. It does not appear to be a reduced diphthong either as neither language shows a long vowel or diphthong. Furthermore, the Va. reflex shows /ht/ which is believed to usually originate from earlier /kt/-sequences. If the original stem contained /kt/ then the expected Elasian reflex would be **''pás'', reduced from **''paks'' as clusters of the /kts/-type in Elasian show t-deletion. | ||
:If we assume paʔś- as stem, then why doesn't the Elasian reflex surface with /ɑh/ nor Va. with /ɑː/? Instead Va. shows /æht/ which would point at a stem ''**pähĭt'' which is problematic as the Elasian reflex would be ''*pét'' /peht/ alt. ''*péit'' /pehit/ and '''not''' ''pasz'' /pat͡s/. One suggestion is *pæś- which while solving the problem in Välyatalle does not explain the irregularity in æ > a in Elasian. A possible *paĭhś- is also discounted primarily on grounds that / | :If we assume paʔś- as stem, then why doesn't the Elasian reflex surface with /ɑh/ nor Va. with /ɑː/? Instead Va. shows /æht/ which would point at a stem ''**pähĭt'' which is problematic as the Elasian reflex would be ''*pét'' /peht/ alt. ''*péit'' /pehit/ and '''not''' ''pasz'' /pat͡s/. One suggestion is *pæś- which while solving the problem in Välyatalle does not explain the irregularity in æ > a in Elasian. A possible *paĭhś- is also discounted primarily on grounds that /aĭh/ should reflex as Va. /æː/ and El. /ah/. |
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*aʔtsa: Va. aas "girl"; Elas. -áz "nouns denoting female referents"
*aʔra: Va. aars "large", Elas. -ár "animate augmentative suffix"
*eʔil: Va. eelas "strong", välya "noble"; El. Élász "wild, fierce".
*kaʔlʲaśa: Va. kaalas "party, celebration"; Elas. kályaz "dance".
*mir: Va. torm(<*tormi) "father", ; Elas. mir "head"
*mer: Elas. meret "language"; Va. merilinna (archaic) "poet"
*pV(h)ś-1, maybe *pæśi or *paĭhśi: Elas. pasz "stone"; Va. päht "stone"
*śalima: Va. salma "belief" ; El. szólim "trust"
*śilima: Va. silma "star"; El. szilin "star"
*tieje: Va. tee, older teeye "I"; El. tá "I (dat.)"
*talilet: Va. talle, from earlier tallet "speech"; El. tollet "a proverb"
*tur: El. turáz "maiden", possible compound of *tur + *aʔtsa, Va. torm "father"
*vaha: Va. välya "noble", Va. tavaha "holy"
*-en/-in: Va. -in "denotes plural"; Elas. -en "denotes plural"
*-lja: Va. -lya "indicates negative polarity of verb"; El. -lya "indicates negative polarity of verb"
*-aʔiC: Va. -ä "pronominal genitive-dative case suffix"; Elas. -á "dative case ending"
- 1 — The original vowel cannot be reconstructed with safety as Va. shows /æ/ while El. has /a/; historically the equivalent of Va. /æ/ is El. /e/. It does not appear to be a reduced diphthong either as neither language shows a long vowel or diphthong. Furthermore, the Va. reflex shows /ht/ which is believed to usually originate from earlier /kt/-sequences. If the original stem contained /kt/ then the expected Elasian reflex would be **pás, reduced from **paks as clusters of the /kts/-type in Elasian show t-deletion.
- If we assume paʔś- as stem, then why doesn't the Elasian reflex surface with /ɑh/ nor Va. with /ɑː/? Instead Va. shows /æht/ which would point at a stem **pähĭt which is problematic as the Elasian reflex would be *pét /peht/ alt. *péit /pehit/ and not pasz /pat͡s/. One suggestion is *pæś- which while solving the problem in Välyatalle does not explain the irregularity in æ > a in Elasian. A possible *paĭhś- is also discounted primarily on grounds that /aĭh/ should reflex as Va. /æː/ and El. /ah/.