User:IlL/Spare pages 1/2: Difference between revisions

m
IlL moved page User:IlL/Spare pages 1-99/2 to User:IlL/Spare pages 1/2 without leaving a redirect
m (IlL moved page User:IlL/Spare pages 1-99/2 to User:IlL/Spare pages 1/2 without leaving a redirect)
 
(74 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
:[[Classical Netagin/Lexicon]]
'''Netagin''' (''ärək Nätagin'' ) is one of the major languages of [[Verse:Tricin]], native to the island nation of Ponetegu. It is a triconsonantal language loosely inspired by Hebrew and PIE.
:[[Classical Netagin/Swadesh list]]
:[[Classical Netagin/he|דף זה בעברית]]


'''Classical Netagin''' (Classical Netagin: ''băric năþågin'' [pəˈrits nəðɒˈgin], [[Eevo]]: traditionally ''Nyðogín Afẃr'' 'Noble Netagin', [[Clofabosin]]: ''netagosin''), also called '''Old Netagin''' ([[Eevo]]: ''Nyðogín Dair''), is the stage of [[Netagin]] descended from [[Ancient Netagin]].  
This page describes Classical Netagin. See also [[Modern Netagin]].
 
Noble Netagin is a classical language in Talma; it was the language of the Netagin Republic in Ancient Talma and lent some loans to other Talman languages such as [[Eevo]] and [[Bênôcian]]. Noble Netagin used to be a mainstay of elite education and is still commonly taught in Talma.
 
It's inspired by the idea of "Hebrew through a looking-glass".
==Soul-searching==
Grammar shd be more Eevo-like: no definiteness, perhaps
*TRIGGERS!
*'es- shd be a Lushootseed-style determiner
*yi = the focused constituent
*rank pronouns, gender derived from 2-level honorific system


==Some gib==
==Some gib==
Line 34: Line 22:


==Todo==
==Todo==
*Actually n should assimilate after all?
*Get rid of gender
*ergativity
*Make the grammar as different from Hebrew as possible
*some Riqimai-esque bhlaoighnity
*Get rid of Windermere words
===Words===
===Words===


Line 129: Line 117:
==Phonology==
==Phonology==
===Consonants===
===Consonants===
Netagin has 23 root consonants:
Netagin has 22 root consonants:


{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width:700px;text-align:center;"
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width:700px;text-align:center;"
Line 135: Line 123:
!  |Labial
!  |Labial
!  |Alveolar
!  |Alveolar
!  |Lateral
!  |Palatal
!  |Palatal
!  |Velar
!  |Velar
!  |Uvular
!  |Labiovelar
!  |Pharyngeal
!  |Glottal
|-
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Nasal
! colspan="2" style="" |Nasal
| '''m''' /m/
| '''m''' /m/
|colspan="2"| '''n''' /n/
| '''n''' /n/  
|
| '''ŋ''' /ŋ/
|  
|  
|  
|  
Line 152: Line 135:
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |Plosive
! rowspan="2" |Plosive
! |<small>unaspirated</small>
!<small>voiceless</small>
| '''p''' /p/
| '''t''' /t/
| '''tj''' /c/
| '''k''' /k/
| '''kw''' /kʷ/
|-
!<small>voiced</small>
| '''b''' /p~b/
| '''b''' /p~b/
|colspan="2"| '''d''' /t~d/
| '''d''' /t~d/
|  
| '''dj''' /c~ɟ/
| '''g''' /k~g/
| '''g''' /k~g/
|
| '''gw''' /gw/
|
| '''ʔ''' /ʔ/
|-
! |<small>aspirated</small>
|
|colspan="2"| '''t''' /tʰ~dʰ/
|
| '''k''' /kʰ~gʰ/
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Affricate
|
| '''c''' /ts/
| '''ć''' /tɬ/
|
|
|
|
|
|-
! rowspan="2" style="" |Fricative
! |<small>spirant</small>
| '''f''' /f~v/
| '''þ''' /θ~ð/
|
|
| '''x''' /x~ɣ/
|
|
|
|-
! |<small>nonspirant</small>
|
| '''s''' /s/<br/>'''z''' /z/
| '''ś''' /ɬ/
|
|
|
| '''ħ''' /ħ/
| '''h''' /h/
|-
|-
! colspan="2" |Approximant
! colspan="2" |Approximant
| '''w''' /w/
| '''w''' /w/
|colspan="2"| '''r''' /ɾ/
| '''r''' /ɾ/, '''l''' /l/
| '''y''' /j/
| '''y''' /j/
|  
|  
|colspan="2"|'''l''' /ʁ~ʕ/
|  
|  
|}
|}
Line 214: Line 161:


===Vowels===
===Vowels===
Classical Netagin has 6 vowels (also cf. [[Dodellian]]):
a ă å è e i ò o ö u
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="text-align:center;"
|-
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2" |Front
! colspan="2" |Back
|-
! style="width: 45px; " |<small>unrounded</small>
! style="width: 45px; " |<small>rounded</small>
! style="width: 45px; " |<small>unrounded</small>
! style="width: 45px; " |<small>rounded</small>
|-
! style="" |Close
| '''i''' /i/
| '''ü''' /y/
| '''ı''' /ɨ~ə/
| '''u''' /u/
|-
! style="" |Open
| '''ä''' /æ/
|
| '''a''' /ɑ/
|
|}


===Stress===
===Stress===
Line 244: Line 167:


===Processes===
===Processes===
The obstruents /p t k tʰ kʰ f θ x/ are lenited to [b d g dʰ gʰ v ð ɣ] after a vowel and after voiced sounds (including lenited obstruents, and except /ɾ/). This is called ''ʔankadö'' in Netagin.
The obstruents /p t k tʰ kʰ f θ x/ are lenited to [b d g t k v ð ɣ] after a vowel and after voiced sounds (including lenited obstruents, and except /ɾ/). This is called ''ʔankadö'' in Netagin.


Morphologically, sequences /rC/ often turn into geminates, due to historical assimilation.
Morphologically, sequences /rC/ often turn into geminates, due to historical assimilation.


==Script==
==Orthography==
[[File:Netagin_script.png|thumbnail|Netagin abugida]]
Netagin is written in a native left-to-right abjad.
 
Netagin is written in a native left-to-right abugida; it developed from an older abjad which was used for [[Ancient Netagin]].


===Consonants===
===Consonants===
Line 267: Line 188:


==Morphology==
==Morphology==
:''See also: [[Classical Netagin/Declension]] and [[Classical Netagin/Gzarot]]''
:''See also: [[Netagin/Declension]] and [[Netagin/Gzarot]]''
The Classical Netagin noun system is typical of "old" Talman languages: nouns, which have gender, inflect for number and state; verbs take both subject and object affixes and display changes according to their syntactic environment.
The Classical Netagin noun system is typical of "old" Talman languages: nouns, which have gender, inflect for number and state; verbs take both subject and object affixes and display changes according to their syntactic environment.


Line 465: Line 386:
|-
|-
! 3
! 3
| ''-∅'' (m.)<br/>''-ö'' (f.) || ''-å'' (m.) <br/> ''-öb'' (f.)
| ''-∅''<br/>''-ö'' (hon.) || ''-å'' <br/> ''-öb'' (hon.)
|}
|}
{{col-break}}
{{col-break}}
Line 480: Line 401:
|-
|-
! 3
! 3
| ''ʔabnes'' (m.)<br/>''ʔabnesö'' (f.) || ''ʔabneså'' (m.)<br/>''ʔabnesöb'' (f.)
| ''ʔabnes'' <br/>''ʔabnesö'' (hon.) || ''ʔabneså'' <br/>''ʔabnesöb'' (hon.)
|}
|}
{{col-end}}
{{col-end}}
Line 497: Line 418:
|-
|-
! 3
! 3
| ''h-''<br/>''h-ö'' (f.) || ''h-å''<br/>''h-öb'' (f.)
| ''h-''<br/>''h-ö'' (hon.) || ''h-å''<br/>''h-öb'' (hon.)
|}
|}
{{col-break}}
{{col-break}}
Line 512: Line 433:
|-
|-
! 3
! 3
| ''hibbenos''<br/>''hibbenosö'' (f.) || ''hibbenoså'' <br/>''hibbenosöb'' (f.)
| ''hibbenos''<br/>''hibbenosö'' (hon.) || ''hibbenoså'' <br/>''hibbenosöb'' (hon.)
|}
|}
{{col-end}}
{{col-end}}
Line 641: Line 562:
|
|
|}
|}
===Derivational morphology===
*''1a2ă3, 1e2ă3, 1o2ă3'' = noun
*''1a2å3, 1a2ö3'' = adjective, noun?
*''1a22u3'' = adjective relating to personal qualities
*''ta12u3'' = noun
*''ʔi12å3'' = agent noun
*''1å2a3, 1å2e3'' = noun
*''1ö2a3'' = noun
*''1i2a3, 1i2i3, 1i2u3'' = noun
*(stolen from hebrew) ''1a2a3ö, 1a2i3ö, 1a2u3ö'' = nouns
*''1i22a3, 1u22a3''
*''1a22e3'' = desire for X
*''-in'' = adjective suffix
*''-åm'' = augmentative
*''-id'' (f) = abstract noun, collective
<!--
from my old Netagin article
*''CáCíC'': quality adjective
*''CúCáC'': resultative adjective
*''CéCóC'': event
*''tiCCúC'': event/place
*''tiCCáC/tiCCéC'': instrument
*''maCCéC/maCCíC'': profession
*''tiCCáCáˀ/tiCCéCáˀ'': process
*''miCCúC'': patient noun
*''miCCóC'': resultative noun
*''CóCáCáˀ': degree/measure
*''CéCéiC'', ''meCaCCéiC'' (''Hebrew''): wannabe X[-er]
-->


==Syntax==
==Syntax==
138,759

edits