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! Person !! '' | ! Person !! ''he-soldəṋi'' "I praise" (independent) !! ''mīs-hēsoləṋi'' "I do not praise" (dependent) | ||
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| 1SG || | | 1SG || he-soldəṋi || mīs-hēsoləṋi | ||
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| 2SG || | | 2SG || he-soldəri || mīs-hēsoləri | ||
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| 3SG.M || | | 3SG.M || he-soldəmi|| mīs-hēsoləmi | ||
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| 3SG.F || | | 3SG.F || he-soldəsi || mīs-hēsoləsi | ||
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| 3SG.N || | | 3SG.N || he-soldə || mīs-hēsolə | ||
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| 1EX || | | 1EX || he-soldəmē || mīs-hēsoləmē | ||
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| 1IN || | | 1IN || he-soldəṋṱi || mīs-hēsoləṋṱi | ||
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| 2PL || | | 2PL || he-soldəsṱi || mīs-hēsoləsṱi | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3PL || | | 3PL || he-soldəwi || mīs-hēsoləwi | ||
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Revision as of 02:02, 18 November 2017
Old Roshterian is the reconstructed intermediate stage between Proto-Talmic and Roshterian. It was spoken approximately at the same time Thensarian was spoken.
- stress shift to penultimate (endings have not dropped completely yet)
- yields Modern Roshterian ultimate stress
- Old Irishy allomorphy
- ā > iə
Some words
- φlat-nəm "seed" > Old Roshterian *ḽatnə > laaṉ "child (offspring)"
- tekts "child" > Old Roshterian *tejṱ, tejs- > ṯeit, ṯeis- "child (young human)"
- bonditejṱiə, bondejṱiə, bnejṱiə "child-bearer, child-rearer, babysitter" > breit, breiti- "woman"
- soliθe > OR höḽiṱe "5" > helit, lite-
- kabnənts > OR kabrəṋs "woman" > (lost)
- snuwem "round" > OR nǖ "fat" > ṉii "big"
- mārom "tree" > OR miəro "tree" > miar
- dēdī > dēdii "tears" > ḏeeḏ
- gwaθwā > baṱu "throat" > batu
- nā > ṋiə "I" > nia
- som, sam > hum "he"
- sausmam > hauma "moon" > hoom
- sk, st > ść, st > OR sṱ, st > st, s̱ṯ
- Final -s, -m, -r had been deleted in endings
Phonology
Vowels
a e i o u ə ö ü ā ē ī ō ū ȫ ǖ iə uə aj ej öj uj iw
ȫ > aa in later Roshterian; aa also emerges from CL
Consonants
Labial | Dental | Alveolar | Medial | Palatal | Velar | Uvular | Glottal | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nasal | *m | *ṋ | *n | ||||||
Plosive | voiceless | *p | *ṱ | *t | *k | *q | |||
voiced | *b | *ḓ | *d | *g | |||||
Fricative | voiceless | *s | *σ | *h | |||||
voiced | *ζ | *ʁ | |||||||
Resonant | *w | *ḽ | *l, *r | *y |
Stress
The initial stress in Proto-Talmic had shifted to penultimate by Pre-Roshterian. (becomes ultimate stress in Roshterian after final vowels are deleted)
Morphology
Nouns
Case? Maybe just absolute/construct
Construct | Singular | Plural |
---|---|---|
ḽatnai | ḽatnə | hēḽatnə |
Nouns also have an incorporated form, used when the noun is used in noun incorporation.
Verbs
Verbs have absolute and conjunct stems, much like in Old Irish. With a preverb or an incorporandum (incorporated noun stem), the conjunct form is used.
The process of attaching preverbs such as prepositions to verbs was productive in Proto-Talmic, which then was repurposed for applicatives and for noun incorporation in Old Roshterian [unlike in Thensarian which took a path more akin to IE languages].
The forms came from the following stress pattern:
preverb | first | ... | penult | final | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Absolute | - | secondary | unstressed | primary | unstressed | |
Conjunct | secondary | unstressed | unstressed | primary | unstressed |
Handwave: This creates a succession of unstressed syllables in the conjunct form which gets smooshed together in Old Roshterian. Or maybe no syncope, but some sort of vowel harmonization
Examples:
Person | ṋoṱiəṋi "I rest" (independent) | mī-ṋṱiəṋi "I do not rest" (dependent) |
---|---|---|
1SG | ṋoṱiəṋi | mī-ṋṱiəṋi |
2SG | ṋoṱiəri | mī-ṋṱiəri |
3SG.M | ṋoṱiəmi | mī-ṋṱiəmi |
3SG.F | ṋoṱiəsi | mī-ṋṱiəsi |
3SG.N | ṋoṱiə | mī-ṋṱiə |
1EX | ṋoṱiəmē | mī-ṋṱiəmē |
1IN | ṋoṱiəṋṱi | mī-ṋṱiəṋṱi |
2PL | ṋoṱiəsṱi | mī-ṋṱiəsṱi |
3PL | ṋoṱiəwi | mī-ṋṱiəwi |
For verbs that already have a preverb, this works a little differently:
preverb | first | ... | penult | final | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Absolute | - | secondary | unstressed | primary | unstressed | |
Conjunct | secondary | unstressed | unstressed | primary | unstressed |
Handwave: This creates a succession of unstressed syllables in the conjunct form which gets smooshed together in Old Roshterian. Or maybe no syncope, but some sort of vowel harmonization
Examples:
Person | he-soldəṋi "I praise" (independent) | mīs-hēsoləṋi "I do not praise" (dependent) |
---|---|---|
1SG | he-soldəṋi | mīs-hēsoləṋi |
2SG | he-soldəri | mīs-hēsoləri |
3SG.M | he-soldəmi | mīs-hēsoləmi |
3SG.F | he-soldəsi | mīs-hēsoləsi |
3SG.N | he-soldə | mīs-hēsolə |
1EX | he-soldəmē | mīs-hēsoləmē |
1IN | he-soldəṋṱi | mīs-hēsoləṋṱi |
2PL | he-soldəsṱi | mīs-hēsoləsṱi |
3PL | he-soldəwi | mīs-hēsoləwi |
Pronouns
Singular | Plural | |
---|---|---|
1 | *ṋiə | *iəm |
1 + 2 | ??? | |
2 | *wēr | ??? |
3 (masculine) | *hum | ??? |
3 (feminine) | *hī | |
3 (inanimate) | *he | |
4 (obviative) | *pī |