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'''Tricin''' (English: /ˈtrɪsin/ ''TRIS-in'' or /ˈtrɪkɪn/ ''TRIK-in''; [[Eevo]]: ''a Smøøh'' /ə smœyh/; [[Clofabosin]]: ''tricin'' /tɾikin/ 'world'; [[Tsjoen]]: ''Xjeof'' /ɬjʌf/) is a collaborative conworld setting originally created by [[User:IlL]] (and to a large extent, [[User:Praimhín]]).


Please note that appearance of a political or religious view, in any time period or region of Tricin, does NOT imply endorsement of said view by the Tricin workgroup or any of its contributors.
'''Hmøøh''' ([[Skellan]]: ''a Hmøøh'' 'world';  [[Naeng]]: ''Sngeaf''; [[Swuntsim]]: ''Ξəp'' /tɬəp/) is an Earth-like planet orbiting a G-type main sequence star, called ''a hond'' in [[Skellan]], and ''fi nieth'' in [[Naeng]], in the Rytsofzyláð Galaxy.


==Licensing==
Hmøøh is a collaborative conworld setting originally created by [[User:IlL]]. [[User:Praimhín]] has also contributed greatly.
CC BY-NC-SA.


==Links==
See also [[Verse:Irta]], [[Verse:Schngellstein]]
*[https://discord.gg/tgEfw7s Tricin Workgroup (Discord server)]


==Active contributors list==
== Todo ==
Contributors may add or remove themselves from this list. You can state what tasks you want to take over in the near future.
Move Tsrovesh to Méich Bhaonnáiqh
== Priorities ==
Talma:
* Tseer
* Anbirese
Bjeheond:
* Netagin
* Nurian
== Sprachbünde ==
* Talma
** Mutations
** large vowel systems
** Insular Celtic/Semitic relexes: Head-initial, historically verb-initial, with inflected prepositions, etc.
* Bjeheond: [[Nurian]], [[Tizian]], Modern Wdm, Modern Ntg
** moderately large vowel systems
** Syntactically similar to SEA
** Slavic-style motion verbs
* Naquian
** construct state? German relexes?
* Peripheral Naquian (Rencad) Sprachbund
** possessed classifiers, alienable vs inalienable possession
*** you have to say "my-CLF tree"
** simple evidentiality systems
* Hetomic/Idosian
** Polish gibby or otherwise very fricativey
** noun classes
** prefixing but head final
* Onishian Sprachbund 1: Uralic/Siberian gibs/relexes
** Suffixaufnahme
** Caucasian-style gender systems
** [[Ryctiac]]
* Onishian Sprachbund 2: "Rulak"?
** Bring Rietz back?
* Onishian Sprachbund 3:
** Honorific mania but not Altaic
* Onishian Sprachbund 4
** "Toneless polyejectiveVietnamese"
* Roshterian
** retroflexes
** head-marking
 
==Team==
Hmøøh is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA.
===Contributors===
*[[User:Praimhín]]
 
===Former contributors===
*[[User:IlL]]
*[[User:IlL]]
*[[User:Immeska]] (new, nothing quite yet)
*[[User:Praimhín]] ([[Camalic]])


==Some ideas and loose guidelines==
==Some loose guidelines==
*The idea behind Tricin is loosely "What if LW rationalists ran the world?"
*In general, conlangs and names should avoid words that sound like
*In general, conlangs and names should avoid words that sound like
**racial etc. slurs
**racial etc. slurs
**profanities in common Earth languages
**profanities in common Earth languages
**names of infamously destructive hurricanes (e.g. "Katrina" or "Harvey")
**names of infamously destructive hurricanes (e.g. "Katrina" or "Harvey")
*Find some microtonalist types
*Find a domain to host a dedicated wiki on
*Global warming might force people to migrate - main driver of linguistic change in the beginning of postmodern Tricin?
*Trician architecture?
*Draw the map
*A Tricin manga series?
**we could certainly ''imagine'' a TV show/video game set in Tricin as food for thought
*When creating a Trician character, you can give them multiple interests (like, say, mathematician and composer) but generally you should give them at most one field to be major or famous in, especially if the character is contemporary.
*When creating a Trician character, you can give them multiple interests (like, say, mathematician and composer) but generally you should give them at most one field to be major or famous in, especially if the character is contemporary.
*Explore cultural contact and conflict, particilarly between Etalocians and non-Etalocians.
*Nonhuman races like "elves"?


==Star system==
==Star system==
Tricin is the second of 7 planets orbiting a G-type main sequence star, called ''a hond'' in [[Eevo]], ''grian'' in [[Clofabosin]], and ''pjeos'' in [[Tsjoen]].
Planet names in Eevo:
<!--Planet names in Phormatolidin: Sphytin, Chlorotricin, Alathoin, Phrycodin, Sterocythin, Tharofudin, Clypharin-->
*''Łyrxíd'' - terrestrial ([[Tseer]] ''Warsid'')
*''Hmøøh'' - terrestrial
**Satellite: ''Søøm''
*''Alvor'' - terrestrial (Tseer ''Almor'')
*''Firot'' - super-Earth (Tseer ''Firodh'')
*''Tservih'' - gas giant (Tseer ''Txermikh'')
*''Darwñð'' - gas giant (Tseer ''Darofwwđ'')
*''Çyñvar'' - ice giant (Tseer ''Khimar'')


Planet names in Eevo, Clofabosin and Tsjoen:
The largest planet is Tservih and the smallest is Alvor.
*''Sfiþ, spitin, Njav'' - terrestrial
 
*''Smøøh, tricin, Xjeof'' - terrestrial
(Tseer, via a Qazhric language? Inspired by Akkadian Simānu, Kislimu > Hebrew Sivan, Kislev)
**Satellite: ''Søøm, porfin, Tud''
*''Aloð, alatin, Joereot'' - terrestrial
*''Fricoð, fricodin, Hepn'' - super-Earth
*''Sderciþ, sterocitin, Atkeo'' - gas giant
*''Taroð, tarofudin, Kjen'' - gas giant
*''Llifr, clifarin, Zjuteom'' - ice giant


==Planetary characteristics==
==Planetary characteristics==
[[File:Tricin map.png|thumbnail|Sketch of Tricin]]
1 Trician solar year = 357.08065278709064 Trician days. These are often grouped into 51 7-day weeks.


1 Trician year = 381.3668618 Earth days = 357.0806527870906 Trician days = 1.04410737342 Earth years
1 Trician solar day = 24 Earth hours


1 Trician day = 25.6323176 hours
A Trician day is divided into 5040 units, each of which is divided into 5040 smaller units.


357 days = 51 7-day weeks
One Trician lunar month is 30.58122882574347 Trician days long; hence months in the lunar calendar usually have either 30 or 31 days. Twelve lunar months are about 366.97474590892164 days, which ''exceeds'' the solar year by 9.89409312183100 solar days. Hence Trician lunisolar calendars ''remove'' a month, approximately once in every 3 years, to keep the months aligned with the solar year.


Leap day every 12.3988275678 years
Atmosphere and atmospheric pressure: Earth-like


months: 30 30 30 29 30 30 30 29 30 30 30 29(30)
===Continents===


Leap year every 12 except when the year is divisible by 372. If the year is divisible by 130944=352*372 it's a leap year.
27% of Hmøøh's surface is land (i.e. not covered by water).
 
so the years 270, 520, 790, X40, 10E0, 1360, 1610, 1880, ... are not leap years
 
===Continents===
28% of Tricin's surface is land (i.e. not covered by water).


Continents (Areas are ballpark estimates):
Continents (Areas are ballpark estimates):
*[[Verse:Tricin/Etalocin|Etalocin]] (Eevo: ''Eþa''): An on average temperate continent, covers 6% of the surface and 20% of the land
*Talma and Txapoalli: Spreads north to south, about 20% of the land
*[[Verse:Tricin/Bjeheond|Bjeheond]] (Eevo: ''Ogxóoŋ''): about 10% of the land
**[[Verse:Hmøøh/Talma|Talma]] (Skellan: ''Talma''): Northern, temperate region
*[[Verse:Tricin/Txapoalli|Txapoalli]]: about 30% of the land, climate varies widely
**Txapoalli (Skellan: ''Eta''): Southern, tropical region
*[[Verse:Tricin/Cualuav|Cualuav]] (Eevo: ''Cualuav''): 30%
*[[Verse:Hmøøh/Bjeheond|Bjeheond]] (Skellan: ''Ogxóoñ''): about 10% of the land, temperate
*Polar ice caps: 10%
*[[Verse:Hmøøh/Avaka|Avaka]] (Skellan: ''Avaga''): about 30% of the land, climate varies widely
*[[Verse:Hmøøh/Cualuav|Cualuav]] (Skellan: ''Cualuav''): 30%, climate varies widely
*Arctica: 10%


Other areas:
Other areas:
*[[Verse:Tricin/Zoom Islands|Zoom Islands]] (near Txapoalli)
*[[Verse:Hmøøh/Zoom Islands|Zoom Islands]] (near Txapoalli)
*[[Verse:Hmøøh/Chunda Capeto|Chunda Capeto]] (lots of languages)


TODO: Residual and spread zones within each continent.
TODO: Residual and spread zones within each continent.


===Calendar===
===Calendar===
The following describes the Etalocian calendar, which is now a global standard across Tricin.
The following describes the Talman calendar, which is now a global standard across Hmøøh.


Year 0 marks the founding of the Windermere Republic. Negative years are written with a minus sign.
Year 0 marks the founding of the Windermere Empire. Negative years are written with a minus sign.


Months in Clofabosin:
The current Trician year is fT 1392.
*''talaporfin''
*''uneporfin''
*''verteporfin''
*''rostaporfin''
*''exeporfin''
*''avidoporfin''
*''temoporfin''
*''padeliporfin''
*''padoporfin''
*''stannsoporfin''
*''lemuteporfin''
*''rufiporfin''


A seven-day week is used. The names of the days of the week in Clofabosin are:
===Major oceans and seas===
*''domorelin''
===Tectonic plates===
*''remorelin''
Major plates:
*''mimorelin''
*one big oceanic plate
*''famorelin''
*Talman plate
*''solmorelin''
*Etalocian plate
*''lamorelin''
*Bjeheondian plate
*''timorelin''
*two to three Txapoallian plates
*one Cualuavian plate
*two to four minor oceanic plates
*one Arctican plate


The current Trician year is fT 2292 (13b0dd).
===Major oceans and seas===
===Time zones===
===Time zones===
===Constellations===
===Natural resources===
Fossil fuels are less abundant than on Earth, which has forced Tricians to rely on nuclear energy. [also slowed down tech progress, but Trician civilization also grew more sustainably than Earth civilization] (?)


==Prehistory==
==Prehistory==
*Long period of glaciation like in our world.
Like Crackfic Hmøøh, Canon Hmøøh itself was a result of a terraforming event where Earth organisms, including early humans, gradually took over a previously uninhabitable planet via a one-way wormhole. All organisms on Hmøøh come from Earth lineages no older than the Miocene. All modern Trician humans are our ''Homo sapiens sapiens''.
==Neurotypes==
 
Mostly similar to Earth humans
The difference between Canon and Crackfic Hmøøh is mainly in when in Trician history later Earth immigration occurs, and what lingua francas are in use in Canon Hmøøh.
*There is a contingent of people who are not stereotypically autistic but they aren't normie-normies either. More common among scientists, mathematicians and artists. (needs more description)
 
*Some people can only trust explicit rules.
==Music==
The Trician musical traditions could be classified roughly as follows. (See individual subpages for more info.)
 
* Meantone temperament (penta or diatonic; I-vi-ii-V-I important): ???
* Pythagorean/53edo: Dodellian
* Low-complexity just intonation (overtone or undertone series based, combination product sets and CS's) or quasi ji edos: classical Talman, popular Fyxoom
* Tetrachords and ajnas: Sowáar, Bjeheondian
* Equal division of the fifth: Naquosphere
* Small inharmonic scales (slendro and pelog and quasi 7edo): Onishia
* JI-agnostic small edos: modern experimental
* Primodality: modern experimental
 
Modern Talmosphere art music is often a mixture of all these elements.


==Languages==
==Languages==
===Major languages===
===Major languages===
Roughly in order of number of speakers:
Roughly in order of number of speakers:
#[[Tizian]]
# [[Mustlup]]
#[[Sjowaazheñ]]
# [[Scellan]]
#[[Eevo]]
# [[Dakwəx]]
#[[Tsjoen]]
# Modern [[Naquian]]
#[[Fyxámian]]
# [[Æ]]
#[[Anvirese]]
# Șinach [[Netagin]]
#[[Clofabosin]]
#[[Modern Windermere]]


===Language families===
===Language families===
The 8 major language families are:
Some major language families are:
*[[Clofabic languages]] (e.g. [[Clofabosin]])
*[[Lakovic languages]] (e.g. [[Naeng]])
*[[Hlou-Ki languages]] (e.g. [[Hlou]])
*[[Quame languages]] (e.g. [[Scellan]])
*[[Quihum languages]] (e.g. [[Eevo]])
*[[Tsimulh languages]] (e.g. [[Swuntsim]])
*[[Tergetic languages]] (e.g. [[Windermere]])
*[[Idavic languages]] (e.g. [[Netagin]])
*[[Tsimulh-Naquic languages]] (e.g. [[Sfətsiv]])
=== Language isolates ===
*Tzaloxic languages (e.g. [[Tzaloxian]])
* [[Suwáá]]
*[[Wakanic languages]] (e.g. [[Dodellian]])
*[[Wiobic languages]] (e.g. [[Tsjoen]])
 
==Geographical clustering of features==
[outsourced]
*dark skin/hair, epicanthal folds, blue eyes, straight hair (Immeska mentioned this)


==In-universe conlangs==
=="Racial" characteristics==
*Fantasy language aesthetics:
*Etalocians have brown skin, black hair, epicanthal folds, blue eyes (sometimes), and straight hair.
**breathy-voiced stops/geminates like Old Eevo, Bhadhagha and Camalic
*Txapoallians: various
**[[Proto-Clofabic]] gib
**pseudo-[[Adutsib]] or pseudo-[[Naquian]]
**pseudo-[[Windermere]]


==Programming languages==
==Programming languages==
Programming languages usually have [[Eevo]] keywords. Some common languages are:
Programming languages usually have [[Scellan]] keywords and use Polish/prefix notation. Some common languages are:
*High-level language (Java + Python hybrid)
*High-level language (Java + Python hybrid)
*Functional language
*Functional language
*C analogue
*C analogue
==People==
Surnames are bolded.
===Modern===
*'''Cholesterol''' Lipitor - [[Clofabian]] dietitian
*'''Mpüntemzlouk''' Ntalß - [[Teiem-Nkahn|Tei]] abstract painter
*'''Picumeterol''' Crestor - [[Clofabian]] actor and comedian
*'''Haests''' Njeolat - [[Tsjoen]] science fiction writer
*[[Verse:Tricin/Schlomo Schngellstein|Schlomo '''Schngellstein''']] - conlanger, co-creator of [[Verse:Tricin/Earth]]
*[[Verse:Tricin/Prăfin fab-Bălang|Prăfin '''fab-Bălang''']] - [[Windermere]] psychologist and composer
*[[Verse:Tricin/Segin Þwhgad|Segin '''Þwhgad''']] - [[Verse:Tricin/Fyxám|Fyxámian]] composer
*Bysgáj '''Malloc''' - Fyxámian computer scientist


==See also==
==See also==
{{List subpages}}
{{List subpages}}
[[Category:Tricin|*]]
[[Category:Hmøøh|*]]

Latest revision as of 17:05, 20 June 2023

In this versespace:

Verse:
Hmøøh
Verse talk:


Hmøøh (Skellan: a Hmøøh 'world'; Naeng: Sngeaf; Swuntsim: Ξəp /tɬəp/) is an Earth-like planet orbiting a G-type main sequence star, called a hond in Skellan, and fi nieth in Naeng, in the Rytsofzyláð Galaxy.

Hmøøh is a collaborative conworld setting originally created by User:IlL. User:Praimhín has also contributed greatly.

See also Verse:Irta, Verse:Schngellstein

Todo

Move Tsrovesh to Méich Bhaonnáiqh

Priorities

Talma:

  • Tseer
  • Anbirese

Bjeheond:

  • Netagin
  • Nurian

Sprachbünde

  • Talma
    • Mutations
    • large vowel systems
    • Insular Celtic/Semitic relexes: Head-initial, historically verb-initial, with inflected prepositions, etc.
  • Bjeheond: Nurian, Tizian, Modern Wdm, Modern Ntg
    • moderately large vowel systems
    • Syntactically similar to SEA
    • Slavic-style motion verbs
  • Naquian
    • construct state? German relexes?
  • Peripheral Naquian (Rencad) Sprachbund
    • possessed classifiers, alienable vs inalienable possession
      • you have to say "my-CLF tree"
    • simple evidentiality systems
  • Hetomic/Idosian
    • Polish gibby or otherwise very fricativey
    • noun classes
    • prefixing but head final
  • Onishian Sprachbund 1: Uralic/Siberian gibs/relexes
    • Suffixaufnahme
    • Caucasian-style gender systems
    • Ryctiac
  • Onishian Sprachbund 2: "Rulak"?
    • Bring Rietz back?
  • Onishian Sprachbund 3:
    • Honorific mania but not Altaic
  • Onishian Sprachbund 4
    • "Toneless polyejectiveVietnamese"
  • Roshterian
    • retroflexes
    • head-marking

Team

Hmøøh is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA.

Contributors

Former contributors

Some loose guidelines

  • In general, conlangs and names should avoid words that sound like
    • racial etc. slurs
    • profanities in common Earth languages
    • names of infamously destructive hurricanes (e.g. "Katrina" or "Harvey")
  • When creating a Trician character, you can give them multiple interests (like, say, mathematician and composer) but generally you should give them at most one field to be major or famous in, especially if the character is contemporary.

Star system

Planet names in Eevo:

  • Łyrxíd - terrestrial (Tseer Warsid)
  • Hmøøh - terrestrial
    • Satellite: Søøm
  • Alvor - terrestrial (Tseer Almor)
  • Firot - super-Earth (Tseer Firodh)
  • Tservih - gas giant (Tseer Txermikh)
  • Darwñð - gas giant (Tseer Darofwwđ)
  • Çyñvar - ice giant (Tseer Khimar)

The largest planet is Tservih and the smallest is Alvor.

(Tseer, via a Qazhric language? Inspired by Akkadian Simānu, Kislimu > Hebrew Sivan, Kislev)

Planetary characteristics

1 Trician solar year = 357.08065278709064 Trician days. These are often grouped into 51 7-day weeks.

1 Trician solar day = 24 Earth hours

A Trician day is divided into 5040 units, each of which is divided into 5040 smaller units.

One Trician lunar month is 30.58122882574347 Trician days long; hence months in the lunar calendar usually have either 30 or 31 days. Twelve lunar months are about 366.97474590892164 days, which exceeds the solar year by 9.89409312183100 solar days. Hence Trician lunisolar calendars remove a month, approximately once in every 3 years, to keep the months aligned with the solar year.

Atmosphere and atmospheric pressure: Earth-like

Continents

27% of Hmøøh's surface is land (i.e. not covered by water).

Continents (Areas are ballpark estimates):

  • Talma and Txapoalli: Spreads north to south, about 20% of the land
    • Talma (Skellan: Talma): Northern, temperate region
    • Txapoalli (Skellan: Eta): Southern, tropical region
  • Bjeheond (Skellan: Ogxóoñ): about 10% of the land, temperate
  • Avaka (Skellan: Avaga): about 30% of the land, climate varies widely
  • Cualuav (Skellan: Cualuav): 30%, climate varies widely
  • Arctica: 10%

Other areas:

TODO: Residual and spread zones within each continent.

Calendar

The following describes the Talman calendar, which is now a global standard across Hmøøh.

Year 0 marks the founding of the Windermere Empire. Negative years are written with a minus sign.

The current Trician year is fT 1392.

Major oceans and seas

Tectonic plates

Major plates:

  • one big oceanic plate
  • Talman plate
  • Etalocian plate
  • Bjeheondian plate
  • two to three Txapoallian plates
  • one Cualuavian plate
  • two to four minor oceanic plates
  • one Arctican plate

Time zones

Constellations

Natural resources

Fossil fuels are less abundant than on Earth, which has forced Tricians to rely on nuclear energy. [also slowed down tech progress, but Trician civilization also grew more sustainably than Earth civilization] (?)

Prehistory

Like Crackfic Hmøøh, Canon Hmøøh itself was a result of a terraforming event where Earth organisms, including early humans, gradually took over a previously uninhabitable planet via a one-way wormhole. All organisms on Hmøøh come from Earth lineages no older than the Miocene. All modern Trician humans are our Homo sapiens sapiens.

The difference between Canon and Crackfic Hmøøh is mainly in when in Trician history later Earth immigration occurs, and what lingua francas are in use in Canon Hmøøh.

Music

The Trician musical traditions could be classified roughly as follows. (See individual subpages for more info.)

  • Meantone temperament (penta or diatonic; I-vi-ii-V-I important): ???
  • Pythagorean/53edo: Dodellian
  • Low-complexity just intonation (overtone or undertone series based, combination product sets and CS's) or quasi ji edos: classical Talman, popular Fyxoom
  • Tetrachords and ajnas: Sowáar, Bjeheondian
  • Equal division of the fifth: Naquosphere
  • Small inharmonic scales (slendro and pelog and quasi 7edo): Onishia
  • JI-agnostic small edos: modern experimental
  • Primodality: modern experimental

Modern Talmosphere art music is often a mixture of all these elements.

Languages

Major languages

Roughly in order of number of speakers:

  1. Mustlup
  2. Scellan
  3. Dakwəx
  4. Modern Naquian
  5. Æ
  6. Șinach Netagin

Language families

Some major language families are:

Language isolates

"Racial" characteristics

  • Etalocians have brown skin, black hair, epicanthal folds, blue eyes (sometimes), and straight hair.
  • Txapoallians: various

Programming languages

Programming languages usually have Scellan keywords and use Polish/prefix notation. Some common languages are:

  • High-level language (Java + Python hybrid)
  • Functional language
  • C analogue

See also

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Verse:
Hmøøh
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