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Umrētet

Interest, care to elaborate how it goes from Umbreao to Umretet? Emperor Zelos 08:10, 17 April 2014 (CEST)

It'simple: Harākti doesn't allow for complex consonant clusters, so -mbr- had to be shortened to either -mr- or (ū)br- (if the nasal is dropped, the preceding vowel is lenghtened, usually), and the final part -ea(o) gets shortened to -ē, with the final -o ignored since such word-final sounds are often assumed to be some sort of a suffix. That gives umrēti or ūbrēti, with -ti being a suffix indicating languages, which becomes -(t)et in locative singular, so umrētet literally means 'in Umbrean'. ^_^ And I just realised that umrēti sounds exactly the same as Slovene umréti, which means 'to die'. Maybe I should use ūbrēti instead. Ø_Ø Ashucky (talk) 14:05, 17 April 2014 (CEST)

English doens't allow 2 fricatives to begin a syllables, except sphere and sphinx, maybe umbrean can be a bit of an exception? :P Emperor Zelos 14:18, 17 April 2014 (CEST)

The cluster would still have to be broken since it's impossible to write it in cuneiform otherwise: umbirēti or umibrēti would be the options then. I can use one of those if you like. :) Ashucky (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2014 (CEST)

First one! Emperor Zelos 09:31, 18 April 2014 (CEST)

Umbirēti it is then! :) Ashucky (talk) 13:37, 18 April 2014 (CEST)

And so it was decreed by the emperor! Emperor Zelos 13:40, 18 April 2014 (CEST)

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 It'simple: Harākti doesn't allow for complex consonant clusters, so ''-mbr-'' had to be shortened to either ''-mr-'' or ''(ū)br-'' (if the nasal is dropped, the preceding vowel is lenghtened, usually), and the final part ''-ea(o)'' gets shortened to ''-ē'', with the final ''-o'' ignored since such word-final sounds are often assumed to be some sort of a suffix. That gives ''umrēti'' or ''ūbrēti'', with ''-ti'' being a suffix indicating languages, which becomes ''-(t)et'' in locative singular, so ''umrētet'' literally means 'in Umbrean'. ^_^ <small>And I just realised that ''umrēti'' sounds exactly the same as Slovene ''umréti'', which means 'to die'. Maybe I should use ''ūbrēti'' instead. </small>Ø_Ø  [[User:Ashucky|Ashucky]] ([[User talk:Ashucky|talk]]) 14:05, 17 April 2014 (CEST)
+English doens't allow 2 fricatives to begin a syllables, except sphere and sphinx, maybe umbrean can be a bit of an exception? :P [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 14:18, 17 April 2014 (CEST)
+The cluster would still have to be broken since it's impossible to write it in cuneiform otherwise: ''umbirēti'' or ''umibrēti'' would be the options then. I can use one of those if you like. :) [[User:Ashucky|Ashucky]] ([[User talk:Ashucky|talk]]) 18:39, 17 April 2014 (CEST)
+First one! [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 09:31, 18 April 2014 (CEST)
+''Umbirēti'' it is then! :) [[User:Ashucky|Ashucky]] ([[User talk:Ashucky|talk]]) 13:37, 18 April 2014 (CEST)
+And so it was decreed by the emperor! [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 13:40, 18 April 2014 (CEST)