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<poem>
<poem>
Hazaj meter:
Hazaj meter:
''Tygům šatlej ry-čannevěr,''
''Tygům šatlej ry-čannevear,''
''Kadob pehlať a-vahmavěr,''
''Kadob pehlať a-vahmavear,''
''ale'ad tu pa-nojjannem,''
''ale'ad tu pa-nojjannem,''
''Hypyre žůj vyto šotnem.''
''Hypyre žůj vyto šotnem.''
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Yigdal meter:
Yigdal meter:
''Peslam mygeptak ďah mynej ve'ůx,''
''Peslam mygeptak ďah mynej ve'ůx,''
''Mirěť čapa korin pa-ruze'ůx.''
''Mireať čapa korin pa-ruze'ůx.''
''Dolper aniv neliem taja tožie,''
''Dolper aniv neliem taja tožie,''
''Bon niem sa pakavin lyma pežie.''
''Bon niem sa pakavin lyma pežie.''
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Vowel diachronics:
Vowel diachronics:
*In stressed syllables: a e i u ā ē ī ū > a ě e o ů ie i u.
*In stressed syllables: a e i u ā ē ī ū > a ea e o ů ie i u.
*In pretonic syllables (open): a o i e > a a y e  
*In pretonic syllables (open): a o i e > a a y e  
*In propretonic syllables: a o i e > a a y y
*In propretonic syllables: a o i e > a a y y
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|-
! Independent
! Independent
| ''tiel'' || ''tied'' || ''qen'' || '''' || ''qej'' || ''toť'' || ''tum'' || ''tinni'' || ''qěv''
| ''tiel'' || ''tied'' || ''qen'' || ''qea'' || ''qej'' || ''toť'' || ''tum'' || ''tinni'' || ''qeav''
|-
|-
! Emphatic
! Emphatic
| ''hali'' || ''hadů'' || ''qemna'' || ''qesna'' || ''qejna'' || ''hynťů'' || ''hynťiem'' || ''hynni'' || ''qěna''
| ''hali'' || ''hadů'' || ''qemna'' || ''qesna'' || ''qejna'' || ''hynťů'' || ''hynťiem'' || ''hynni'' || ''qeana''
|-
|-
! Alienable
! Alienable
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|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
|''lyto'' ||''lytůx''
|''lyto'' ||''lytůx''
|''ďašatlěn'' ||''ďašatlěx''
|''ďašatlean'' ||''ďašatleax''
|''jůšid'' ||''qyjůšid''
|''jůšid'' ||''qyjůšid''
|}
|}
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The newest version of Netagin will be quite weird syntactically. For example, to say "bigger than X" you have to say "to exceed X bigly".
The newest version of Netagin will be quite weird syntactically. For example, to say "bigger than X" you have to say "to exceed X bigly".


:'''''"Qaj, laršip ne dáqer rysohe qacom." barces qama.'''''
:'''''"Qaj, laršip ne dáqer rysohe qacom." barces nea qama.'''''
:/ʔaj lɐr'ʃip nɛ 'daʔɛr rɨso'ɦɛ ʔɐ'tsom bar'tsɛs nɛə ʔɐma/
:/ʔaj lɐr'ʃip nɛ 'daʔɛr rɨso'ɦɛ ʔɐ'tsom bar'tsɛs nɛə ʔɐma/
:MIR me-exceed-he DET.M.SING son.SING big-ADV already speak-3SG.F DET.F mother.SING
:MIR me-exceed-he DET.M.SING son.SING big-ADV already speak-3SG.F DET.F mother.SING
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|-
|-
|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|align="right"|'''Nominative'''
|''ne'' (unstressed); ''nech'' (stressed) ||''''||''na''||''no''
|''ne'' (unstressed); ''nech'' (stressed) ||''nea''||''na''||''no''
|-
|-
|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
|align="right"|'''Genitive'''
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|-
|-
! 10
! 10
| ''1a2e2ě3'' || ''-i12a2ě3'' || ''-i1ym2y3ě3'' || ''1a2e2ů3'' || ''du12a2ie3''
| ''1a2e2ea3'' || ''-i12a2ea3'' || ''-i1ym2y3ea3'' || ''1a2e2ů3'' || ''du12a2ie3''
|-
|-
! 11
! 11
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*''dyCCaC/dyCCeC'': instrument
*''dyCCaC/dyCCeC'': instrument
*''vaCCieC/vaCCiC'': profession
*''vaCCieC/vaCCiC'': profession
*''diCCaCe/dyCCěCe'': process
*''diCCaCe/dyCCeaCe'': process
*''vyCCuC'': patient noun
*''vyCCuC'': patient noun
*''vyCCůC'': resultative noun
*''vyCCůC'': resultative noun
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*''lynoj'' = although
*''lynoj'' = although
*''lynojačir'' = although
*''lynojačir'' = although
*''vyzěq'' = but
*''vyzeaq'' = but
*''daja'' = but
*''daja'' = but
*''qatie'' = if
*''qatie'' = if
*''věn'' = that (complementizer)
*''vean'' = that (complementizer)
*''be'' (ne-word) = that (relativizer)
*''be'' (ne-word) = that (relativizer)
*''myri'' = that, whom  
*''myri'' = that, whom  
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*''=ča'' = or
*''=ča'' = or
*''=qar'' = (''poetic'') for
*''=qar'' = (''poetic'') for
*''='' = interrogative or "if"
*''=hea'' = interrogative or "if"


====Inflected conjunctions====
====Inflected conjunctions====
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*'''''Ba''' ygxar '''duš'''.'' = He is not growing.
*'''''Ba''' ygxar '''duš'''.'' = He is not growing.
*'''''Ba''' ytarrě '''de''' pyžal.'' = The dog does not bark.
*'''''Ba''' ytarrea '''de''' pyžal.'' = The dog does not bark.
*'''''Ba''' ylmě va macni '''da''' qasi.'' (NEG 3SG.N-eat-3SG.N VE.N child NEG.ABS-VE.N fruits) = He does not eat fruits.
*'''''Ba''' ylmea va macni '''da''' qasi.'' (NEG 3SG.N-eat-3SG.N VE.N child NEG.ABS-VE.N fruits) = He does not eat fruits.


''Ba'' also translates "no".
''Ba'' also translates "no".
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===Questions===
===Questions===
Yes-no questions are formed by changing the determiner ''ne'' of the noun being asked about to ''ve''. The particle ''qu'' may optionally be added to the beginning.
Yes-no questions are formed by changing the determiner ''ne'' of the noun being asked about to ''ve''. The particle ''qu'' may optionally be added to the beginning.
:''Lečar qama.'' = Mother is at home.
:''Lečar nea qama.'' = Mother is at home.
:''(Qu) lečar qama?'' = Is Mother at home?  
:''(Qu) lečar vea qama?'' = Is Mother at home?  


Answering yes-no questions in the positive may use the word ''qaj'' 'indeed' or repeat the focused constituent.
Answering yes-no questions in the positive may use the word ''qaj'' 'indeed' or repeat the focused constituent.
:''- (Qu) lečar qama? - Qaj/Lečar.'' = - Is Mother at home? - Yes.
:''- (Qu) lečar vea qama? - Qaj/Lečar.'' = - Is Mother at home? - Yes.


Wh-questions are formed by putting the appropriate interrogative word at the beginning, and using the same determiner change.
Wh-questions are formed by putting the appropriate interrogative word at the beginning, and using the same determiner change.


  Jos qama? = Where is Mother?
  Jos vea qama? = Where is Mother?


  Jal miešsad(ie)? = What (lit. Who) is your name?
  Jal vea miešsad(ie)? = What (lit. Who) is your name?


===Translating "to be"===
===Translating "to be"===
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*"there exists": ''qům ne X'' = "There exists X"  
*"there exists": ''qům ne X'' = "There exists X"  
*"is + adjunct": ''[had lečar] ne X'' = "X is [at home]"
*"is + adjunct": ''[had lečar] ne X'' = "X is [at home]"
*"is + ADJ": ''[baděj] X'' = "X [is big]"
*"is + ADJ": ''[badeaj] X'' = "X [is big]"


===Possession===
===Possession===
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subject:
subject:
:''vůlqe '''''' lyxžam'''is''''' - the woman who loves me
:''nea vůlqe '''bea''' lyxžam'''is''''' - the woman who loves me
direct object:
direct object:
:''páles '''/myri''' '''s'''admurxil'' - the cake that I made
:''nea páles '''bea/myri''' '''s'''admurxil'' - the cake that I made


Only subjects and direct objects can be relativized directly. Relativizing oblique objects requires using the applicative voice:
Only subjects and direct objects can be relativized directly. Relativizing oblique objects requires using the applicative voice:
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Possessors also use the applicative strategy. However, if the verb already has an object, the verb's object affix agrees with the original object, not the relativized noun.
Possessors also use the applicative strategy. However, if the verb already has an object, the verb's object affix agrees with the original object, not the relativized noun.
:''jove '''/myri''' qytymgalxil (*sytymgalxil) ne qeb''
:''nea jove '''bea/myri''' qytymgalxil (*sytymgalxil) ne qeb''
:DET girl REL appl-3SG.M-know.1SG DET father
:DET girl REL appl-3SG.M-know.1SG DET father
:the girl whose father i know  
:the girl whose father i know  
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*For comparison of adverbs, again the auxiliary verb corresponding to the adverb is used with either the transgressive or the verbal noun of the lexical verb. The auxiliary can take applicatives and direct objects: ''the only student I can jump higher than'' = "the only student REL him-APPL-do_better-1SG jump.TRGR" (pseudogloss)
*For comparison of adverbs, again the auxiliary verb corresponding to the adverb is used with either the transgressive or the verbal noun of the lexical verb. The auxiliary can take applicatives and direct objects: ''the only student I can jump higher than'' = "the only student REL him-APPL-do_better-1SG jump.TRGR" (pseudogloss)


The ''pyšme věn'' "such that" + resumptive pronoun construction is always available in post-classical literary Netagin (the applicative has been lost in Modern Netagin vernaculars, which instead use resumptive pronouns for less "relativizable" positions in the relativization hierarchy). Gap and internally headed relative clauses are restricted to poetry.
The ''pyšme vean'' "such that" + resumptive pronoun construction is always available in post-classical literary Netagin (the applicative has been lost in Modern Netagin vernaculars, which instead use resumptive pronouns for less "relativizable" positions in the relativization hierarchy). Gap and internally headed relative clauses are restricted to poetry.


===Complement clauses===
===Complement clauses===
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|-
| to ride, to mount <small>(trans.)</small>
| to ride, to mount <small>(trans.)</small>
| ''qapcě'' (Binyan 4) || ''pecě'' (Binyan 1)
| ''qapcea'' (Binyan 4) || ''pecea'' (Binyan 1)
|-
|-
| to go in
| to go in
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|-
| to rise (of heavenly bodies and other inanimate beings)<br/>to take off (of flying creatures or vehicles)
| to rise (of heavenly bodies and other inanimate beings)<br/>to take off (of flying creatures or vehicles)
| ''ganě'' (Binyan 2) || ''gonně'' (Binyan 7)
| ''ganea'' (Binyan 2) || ''gonnea'' (Binyan 7)
|-
|-
| to set (of heavenly bodies)<br/>to fall (of precipitation)
| to set (of heavenly bodies)<br/>to fall (of precipitation)
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|-
|-
| to fall (of animates)<br/>to go down (of inanimates)
| to fall (of animates)<br/>to go down (of inanimates)
| ''namě'' (Binyan 2) || ''nommě'' (Binyan 7)
| ''namea'' (Binyan 2) || ''nommea'' (Binyan 7)
|-
|-
| to dive, go into water
| to dive, go into water
| ''sadě'' (Binyan 2) || ''soddě'' (Binyan 7)
| ''sadea'' (Binyan 2) || ''soddea'' (Binyan 7)
|-
|-
| to carry, bring (on foot)
| to carry, bring (on foot)