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Here below are given the known etymologies for words in Proto-Tenarian, the reconstructed ancestor of [[Valian|Valian]], [[Elasian]], and [[Lillet|Lillian]]. For forms no longer extant in Valian, examples are given from its direct ancestor Old Valian (OV.).
Here below are given the known etymologies for words in [[User:Chrysophylax/Reconstructing Proto-Tenarian|Proto-Tenarian]], the reconstructed ancestor of [[Valian|Valian]], [[Elasian]], and [[Lillet|Lillian]]. For forms no longer extant in Valian, examples are given from its direct ancestor Old Valian (OV.).


{{Ast}}-a: Va. ''-a'' "(OV.) genitive case suffix"; Elas. ''-o'' "genitive case suffix"
{{Ast}}-a: Va. ''-a'' "(OV.) genitive case suffix"; Elas. ''-o'' "genitive case suffix"
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{{Ast}}pétaqĭ: Va. ''pead'' "sparrow"; Elas. ''pet'' "bird"; Lil. ''pidoig'' "bird"
{{Ast}}pétaqĭ: Va. ''pead'' "sparrow"; Elas. ''pet'' "bird"; Lil. ''pidoig'' "bird"


{{Ast}}śalima: Va. ''salma'' "belief" ; El. ''szólim'' "trust"
{{Ast}}śalima: Va. ''salma'' "belief" ; El. ''szólim'' "trust" (should be szálim??)
 
{{Ast}}śajan: Va. ''saya'' "badger"; El. ''szaj'' "wolverine"


{{Ast}}śilima: Va. ''silma'' "star"; El. ''szilin'' "star"
{{Ast}}śilima: Va. ''silma'' "star"; El. ''szilin'' "star"
{{Ast}}talilet: Va. ''talle'', from earlier ''tallet'' "speech"; El. ''tollet'' "a proverb"
{{Ast}}taʔnikos: Va. ''taankos'' "steed, warhorse"; Elas. ''tónisz'' "beast of burden" from earlier ''tónix'', Lil. ''tōneg'' "reindeer".


{{Ast}}tieje: Va. ''tee'', older ''teeye'' "I"; El. ''tá'' "I (dat.)"
{{Ast}}tieje: Va. ''tee'', older ''teeye'' "I"; El. ''tá'' "I (dat.)"
{{Ast}}talilet: Va. ''talle'', from earlier ''tallet'' "speech"; El. ''tollet'' "a proverb"


{{Ast}}tur: El. ''turáz'' "maiden", possible compound of ''*tur'' + ''*aʔtsa'', Va. ''torm'' "father"
{{Ast}}tur: El. ''turáz'' "maiden", possible compound of ''*tur'' + ''*aʔtsa'', Va. ''torm'' "father"
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:<sup>1</sup> — The original vowel cannot be reconstructed with safety as Va. shows /æ/ while El. has /a/; historically the equivalent of Va. /æ/ is El. /e/.  It does not appear to be a reduced diphthong either as neither language shows a long vowel or diphthong. Furthermore, the Va. reflex shows /ht/ which is believed to usually originate from earlier /kt/-sequences. If the original stem contained /kt/ then the expected Elasian reflex would be **''pás'', reduced from **''paks'' as clusters of the /kts/-type in Elasian show t-deletion.  
:<sup>1</sup> — The original vowel cannot be reconstructed with safety as Va. shows /æ/ while El. has /a/; historically the equivalent of Va. /æ/ is El. /e/.  It does not appear to be a reduced diphthong either as neither language shows a long vowel or diphthong. Furthermore, the Va. reflex shows /ht/ which is believed to usually originate from earlier /kt/-sequences. If the original stem contained /kt/ then the expected Elasian reflex would be **''pás'', reduced from **''paks'' as clusters of the /kts/-type in Elasian show t-deletion.  
:If we assume paʔś- as stem, then why doesn't the Elasian reflex surface with /ɑh/ nor Va. with /ɑː/? Instead Va. shows /æht/ which would point at a stem ''**pähĭt'' which is problematic as the Elasian reflex would be ''*pét'' /peht/ alt. ''*péit'' /pehit/ and '''not''' ''pasz'' /pat͡s/. One suggestion is *pæś- which while solving the problem in Välyatalle does not explain the irregularity in æ > a in Elasian. A possible *paĭhś- is also discounted primarily on grounds that /aĭh/ should reflex as Va. /æː/ and El. /ah/.
:If we assume paʔś- as stem, then why doesn't the Elasian reflex surface with /ɑh/ nor Va. with /ɑː/? Instead Va. shows /æht/ which would point at a stem ''**pähĭt'' which is problematic as the Elasian reflex would be ''*pét'' /peht/ alt. ''*péit'' /pehit/ and '''not''' ''pasz'' /pat͡s/. One suggestion is *pæś- which while solving the problem in Välyatalle does not explain the irregularity in æ > a in Elasian. A possible *paĭhś- is also discounted primarily on grounds that /aĭh/ should reflex as Va. /æː/ and El. /ah/.
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