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==Dialects==
==Dialects==
Proto-Grekelin had been spoken across different parts of Central Europe, usually with no connection between the populations speaking Proto-Grekelin, evolving completely differently from one another. The 4 known dialects so far are:
Old Grekelin was spoken from Belgrade to Budapest, so it didn't take long to split into different dialects. Those dialects are usually categorized in 4 groups. Modern Grekelin derives directly from the Danube dialect (Although the Slavic dialect is basically the result of the homonymous Old Grekelin dialect), and the last two have gone extinct. The following are the 4 groups of Old Grekelin and their status today.
:: - Northern Dialect, which was directly derived from [[Urlogrok|Urlogrok]] and the main ancestor to Grekelin.
:: - Danubian Dialects (Once spoken between Budapest and Northern Vojvodina, now the basis of Modern Grekelin, with about 3/4's of all Grekelin speakers)
:: - The Slavic dialect which also involved into the Slavic dialect of Grekelin. It was probably the only dialect in contact with another (Northern).
:: - Slavic Dialects (The only surviving variant of this language, currently spoken in spread out places of Eastern Hungary, Slovakia and Southern Vojvodina)
:: - Western-Germanic, which was spoken in Eastern Austria (Mostly Burgenland). Eventually it went extinct after giving Grekelin some Germanic influence.
:: - Northern Dialect (Dialects that developed when Grekelin speakers yet again fled the Ottoman threat in the Alps. No longer spoken)
:: - Savvian Dialect (The least significant in socio-linguistic terms, due to its low population (Just above 2.000) and their late divergence from Greek).


The differences between dialects were huge in their last documented stage (15th century):
The Savvian dialects were far more divergent than the other three, possibly due to their late settlement (13th century, during the Slavic raids into Greece) and their nearly complete isolation from Hungarian influence. Some could call them an entirely separate language, as they remained very conservative and close to Greek up until the 19th century (When the last speaker was identified). The following parts compare the sentence "I would like to see it with my eyes" (Modern [[Grekelin]]: "Ennacsinallo davto na ivlo mi ek opiek mei, /ˌɛt͡ɕiˈnɑɫo ˈdɑv.to nɑ iv.ˈlo mi ɛk ˈopjɛk mʲi/"
:: - Northern: Tilo egy percho vizo.
:: - Slavic: Tilo egy ckasta vodae.
:: - Western-Germanic: Ich thilo eni preg vazzer.
:: - Modern Grekelin (Latinized): Gro tilko egy pakharri idra


Despite Grekelin now being one language with two variants, some consider the Slavic dialect a seperate language, since it derives from another Proto-Grekelin dialect (Compare the Slavic and Northern dialects from above) and was not in contact with the rest of the Proto-Grekelin dialects for over 500 years.
===Danubian dialects===
The Danubian dialects are the root of Modern Grekelin.
 
==Slavic Dialects==
Key evolutions of the Slavic dialects are the introduction of the dative (Initially as slang but eventually as a regular practice) and the /y/ > /ɨ/ evolution. It also contains considerably fewer words of Hungarian origin, and the use of palatalization in regular speech.
 
==Northern Dialect==
The only dialect to introduce a glottal stop (ʔ) and glottalization. Apart from that, it was mostly just a subdialect of the Danubian dialects, just divergent enough to have its own group.
 
==Savvian Dialect==
The Savvian dialect is not directly a dialect of Old Grekelin as it split off from Medieval Greek two centuries afterwards. However, it is conventially treated as one.
 
 
Despite Grekelin now being one language with two variants, some consider the Slavic dialect a seperate language, since it derives from another Old Grekelin dialect (Compare the Slavic and Northern dialects from above) and was not in contact with the rest of the Old Grekelin dialects for over 500 years.


==Example Texts==
==Example Texts==
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