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| '''{{PAGENAME}}''' ({{PAGENAME}}: ''An dobhâdhaigh Cuatham'' /an33 dʷaj21 kʷam22/) is a Wiebic language. It has a large number of click consonants, and is a monosyllabic tonal language with fusional morphology using mutations and tone changes. | | '''{{PAGENAME}}''' ({{PAGENAME}}: ''An dobhâdhaigh Cuatham'' /an33 dʷaj21 kʷam22/) is a Wiebic language. It has a large number of click consonants, and is a monosyllabic tonal language with fusional morphology using mutations and tone changes. |
| ==Numbers== | | ==Lexicon== |
| *AW: va:m, *dɛɧɐ, nark, g!auf, ze:lɪɧ, ʃtu:m, ru:t, lɛrts, pfarp, ki:r
| | ''droch'' > ''drobhòdh'' ('zhuo') /gǃ˞ó/ |
| *Pre-Kurmo-Schnüher: va:m, dɪʃɐ, nɛɐk, g!a:f, ze:ləɧ, ʃtuom, ʀu:t, lɛɐts, pfɛɐp, kioɐ
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| *Pre-Schnüher: fˠa:m, dʲəs-S, nʲa:k, mʷo:l, zʲe:ləɧ, tʰʷwəm, vˠo:t, lʲatʰ, pʰʲa:p, kʲa:
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| <poem>
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| we need tones!
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| lʲatʰ->lʲat(breathy)
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| 9 and 10 sound similar
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| ok let's try tʰ > t(breathy)
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| _Cʰ -> _C(breathy)
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| yes
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| _ɧ -> _h -> _(breathy)
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| yes
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| maybe not p-celticization?
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| final k -> glottalization
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| we should have that
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| but final p -> w-glide!
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| 9 -> pʰʲa:w
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| or pʰʲa:wʔ
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| this is so fun
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| vˠa:m, dʲə̤-S, nʲa:ʔ, mʷo:l, zʲe̤:l, tʰʷwəm, vˠo:ʔ, lʲa̤ʔ, pʰʲa:wʔ, kʲʷa:
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| i don't want final plosivess to diasppear yet!
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| i need them for sino-korean gib
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| yes
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| vˠa:m, dʲə̤-S, nʲa:k, mʷo:l, zʲe̤:l, tʰʷwəm, vˠo:t, lʲa̤t, pʰʲa:p, kʲʷa:
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| let me look at what vowel phonemes we had before slenderization
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| ɪ i: ʏ y: u:
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| ə
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| ɛ e: œ ø: o:
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| a:
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| au ai ay iu io uo yø
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| should au ai ay front to ɛu ɛi ɛy?
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| perhaps
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| looks abɛut right
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| actually maybe not
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| we need some "plain" consonants
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| why?????
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| for some balance?
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| au ai ay all merge into ɐː
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| let's say au->ɛ:, ai->ɑ: as in australian or cockney(ish)
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| ai, ay > a:
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| yes
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| ɪ i: ʏ y: u:
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| ə
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| ɛ e: œ ø: o:
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| ɛ: œ
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| a:
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| iu io uo yø
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| should i have œ: < ay?
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| yes!
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| symmetry!
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| ɪ i: ʏ y: u:
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| ə
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| ɛ e: œ ø: o:
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| ɛ: œ:
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| a:
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| iu io uo yø
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| btw Californian English looks like it has /y/ and no /u/
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| so we're now at the "oddball accent of german"-stage
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| yes
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| i think now is a good time to slenderize!
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| yes
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| ɪ -> ʲə, i: -> ʲə:, ʏ -> ʲʷə, y: -> ʲʷə:, u: -> ʷə:...
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| what should the semi-vertical vowel system look like?
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| a:->ˠa:
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| a 3-level system?
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| fleibenschwankenschraft
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| with a ə ï
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| that looks good
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| so pre-cuatham:
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| ɪ i: ʏ y: u:
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| ə
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| e: ø: o:
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| ɛ ɛ: œ œ:
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| a:
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| iu io uo yø
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| ɪ i: ʏ y: u: -> ʲï ʲï: ʲʷï ʲʷï: ʷï:
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| old cuatham:
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| jɨ jɨj jwɨ jwɨj wɨw
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| better than my proposal
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| let's continue
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| ə is just ə
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| e: ø: o: > jəj jwəj wəw
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| yes
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| *middle chinese intensifies*
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| ɛ ɛ: œ œ: -> ja jai jwa jwai
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| a: -> a:
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| or jwaw?
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| a: > a:
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| iu io uo yø -> jɨw, jəw, wəw, jwəj?
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| jɨ, jə, wə, jwə
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| yes i can feel the middle chinese
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| so i and iu merge?
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| iu > jɨw
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| what does final -r do now?
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| fleibenschwankenschraft...
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| -w -j replaced w/ -a?
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| perhaps
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| with a subsequent sandhi
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| ɨa,əa-> ə:, aa->a:
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| this is pretty convenient as a, eo, eu are common in sino-korean
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| what? the sandhi?
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| the vertical vowel system
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| tho i also need -yu(C), -yo(C)
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| jɨw, jəw!
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| i can get them from jw-
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| ?
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| ok
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| CjɨwC->CyuC
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| yes
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| we still haven't gone over uo, üö and io
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| we have: iu io uo yø -> jɨw, jə, wə, jwə
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| so:
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| va:m, dəɧɐ, nɛɐk, mu:l, ze:ləɧ, ʃtuom, ʀu:t, lɛɐts, pfɛɐp, kioɐ
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| va:m, dəɧ-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, ʃtwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| the language should split at this stage or soon after
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| yes!
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| well it was descher in early curmian
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| sorry
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| va:m, djəɧ-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, ʃtwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| either german is the mother of all languages
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| or it's vietnamese
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| or wakashan
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| or clicky polynesian
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| (from a zulian perspective)
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| ʃC > Cʰ at this stage
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| va:m, djəɧ-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| forgot
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| va:m, djə̤ɧ-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| what about mutations caused by unstressed prefixes
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| i think they should be dropped before final endings are dropped
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| be-, ge-, ger- lenites
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| en-, wen- eclipses
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| des- aspirates
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| let's work the effects out
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| then when you lenite be-, you actually get bhe- (pronounced)
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| *gussnish intensifies*
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| sino-korean but with mutations, tone and gender is so funny
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| i can see you're more focused on Schnüher grin emoticon
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| b > v
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| d > dh (fric)
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| g > gh
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| that's pretty much gussnish
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| p > f
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| t > þ
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| k > x
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| dh > gh?
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| we're still at the "old irish" stage
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| irish/elephant gaelic
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| th -> h
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| dh -> gh
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| the following consonants can occur initially in late pre-old cuatham:
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| m n
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| p t ! k ʔ
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| b d g! g
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| ph th !h kh
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| f s h
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| v z
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| l j ʀ
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| right before prefixes trigger initial mutations
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| m
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| seimhius to ṽ
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| uru's to m
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| aspirates to mʰ
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| n
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| seimhius to n
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| urus to n
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| aspirates to nʰ
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| p
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| seimhius to f
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| urus to b
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| aspirates to pʰ
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| t
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| seimhius to θ
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| urus to d
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| aspsirates to tʰ
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| forgot ɧ as a possible initial fricative
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| !
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| seimhius to ɧ
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| urus to g!
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| aspirates to !ʰ
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| k
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| seimhius to x
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| urus to g
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| aspirates to kʰ
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| b
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| seimhius to v
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| urus to m
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| aspirates to bʰ?
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| b shouldn't aspirate unlike in Middle Wiobian
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| or An Bhl grin emoticon
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| b
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| seimhius to v
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| urus to m
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| d
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| seimhius to ð
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| urus to n
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| g!
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| seimhius to ɧ̬
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| urus to ŋ!
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| g
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| seimhius to ɣ
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| urus to ŋ
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| ph th !h kh
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| seimhius to p t ! k (!)
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| blaoighniúil
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| ph th !h kh
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| urus to m̊ n̊ ŋ̊! ŋ̊
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| sorry not blaoighniuil
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| seimhiu: ph > p > f
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| h drops out entirely
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| f s
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| seimhius to h h
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| urus to v z
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| v z
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| seimhius to ʔ ʔ
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| l j ʀ do not mutate
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| oops maybe i should have aspirated hl hj hr?
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| l j r
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| aspirate to hl hj hr
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| and v z aspirates to f s
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| ɧ seimhius to h and urus to ɧ̬
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| ɧ̬ seimhius to to ʔ and aspirates to ɧ
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| ʔ urus to n
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| and aspirates to h!
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| ok so what inventory do i have now
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| m̊ n̊ ŋ̊! ŋ̊
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| m n ŋ! ŋ
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| p t ! k ʔ
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| b d g! g
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| ph th !h kh
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| f s ɧ x h
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| ṽ v z ɧ̬ ɣ
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| l̊ j̊ ʀ̊
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| l j ʀ
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| this is "old cuatham"
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| pʰ tʰ !ʰ kʰ are pinyined p̂ t̂ ŧ̂ k̂
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| ĉ you mean
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| yes sorry
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| p̂ t̂ ŧ̂ ĉ
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| or:
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| use pr tr ŧr cr
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| i could derive aspirates from Cr!
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| as Cuatham has no initial consonant clusters
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| or maybe not?
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| you don't have to change the diachronics
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| r blocks medials from forming
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| i just picked something irishy
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| yes I could do that
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| because ŧ̂ is a little heavy on the diacritics
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| phr thr ŧhr chr
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| bpr dtr đŧr gcr?
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| bpr dtr đŧr gcr actually represetn voiceless nasals
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| yes
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| i don't know why i didn't think of that idea before
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| that's funny
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| but i'm adopting the idea anyway because irish
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| yes
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| also because nobody really knows what <r> is in Wiob
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| it should be the in universe orthography!
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| well <r> *is* sometimes /r/
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| Reber = ráp
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| but not always
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| that's why r could mean /r/ in Cuatham
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| in isolation
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| Schnueher uses Wiob orthography while Cuatham uses the irishy one
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| yes
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| because German read like Sino-Korean
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| or you could have Irish read as Sino-Korean tongue emoticon
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| that's why Hussmauchian conlangers like to do funny things with r
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| or avoid it
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| anyway
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| the language splits after slenderization?
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| yes!
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| I want to drop final plosives in cuatham while retaining them in schnueher
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| yes
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| so here are the numbers again:
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| va:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| cuatham splits from schnueher by...
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| clicky clicky clicky!
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| what do you think abot -p -> -w?
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| yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| with all the !'s pronounced
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| yes, -p > -w in cuatham
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| -t just disappears
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| yes
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| or becomes -j?
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| -k -> -j
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| actually
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| hence -abh/-aigh?
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| final
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| p/jp/wp -> w/j/w
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| t/jt/wt -> Ø/j/w
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| k/jk/wk -> j/j/w
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| yes
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| yes
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| final -ŧ?
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| > Ø/j/w
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| final -l?
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| retained
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| final m, n, and ng are retained
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| yes
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| high from falsetto: ŧrâdha
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| mid tone: ŧra
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| low tone: ŧrà
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| high tone: ŧrá
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| mid falling: ŧradh
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| glottalized: ŧràdh
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| high falling: trádh
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| high from falsetto: ŧrâdh
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| yes
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| maybe hmong is a cuatham jokelang
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| so what does -th- do?
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| i don't like ŧràthadh ...
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| let's say that -thadh- or -thidh- becomes -ch!
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| ŧrath
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| ŧràth
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| ŧráth
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| ŧrach
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| ŧràch
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| trách
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| ŧrâch
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| yes
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| this is def my irish jokelang
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| it's even funnier with the falsetto!
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| or an awesomenesslang
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| irish + khoisan + chinese
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| this is Old Kurmian right before it splits
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:k, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwt, ljə̤:t, pʰjə̤p, kjə:-S
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| yes
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| in modern kurm:
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| @am, |e, n|ek, n@ul, |el, |wem, @wit, ||et, @jep, !e:
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| schnueher drops -l
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| cuatham drops -p -t -k
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| yes
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| I'm doing cuatham first
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| @ = bilabial click
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨw, ljə̤:, pʰjə̤, kjə:-S
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| sorry
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, fwɨw, ljə̤:, pʰjə̤, kjə:-S
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| then final -w -j disappear before -m -n -l
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:, mwɨl, zjə̤l, tʰwəm, fwɨw, ljə̤:, pʰjə̤, kjə:-S
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| yes
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| actually
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| -p turns to -w and deletes any -j before it
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:, mwɨl, zjə̤l, tʰwəm, fwɨw, ljə̤:, pʰjə̤w, kjə:-S
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| yes
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| i also had -k -jk -wk > -j -j -w
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| fa:m, djə̤-S, njə:j, mwɨl, zjə̤l, tʰwəm, fwɨw, ljə̤:, pʰjə̤w, kjə:-S
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| yes
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| I had this
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| va:m, djə̤-S, njə:jQ, mwɨwl, zjə̤jl, tʰwəm, vwɨwQ, ljə̤:Q, pʰjə̤wQ, kjə:-S
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| va:m, djə̤-S, njə:jQ, mwɨl, zjə̤l, tʰwəm, vwɨwQ, ljə̤:Q, pʰjə̤wQ, kjə:-S
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| then I had some tone splits
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| va:m, djə̀-S, njə:jQ, mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, vwɨwQ, ljə̀:Q, pʰjə̀wQ, kjə:-S
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| breathy > low
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| fa:m, djə̀-S, njə:jQ, mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwɨwQ, ljə̀:Q, pʰjə̀wQ, kjə:-S*
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| low glottalized is easier than breathy glottalized
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| fa:m, djə̀-S, njə̌:j, mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwɨ́wQ, ljə̌:, pʰjə̌w, kjə:-S
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| yes
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| fa:m, djə̀-S, njə̌:j, mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwɨ́w, ljə̌:, pʰjə̌w, kjə:-S
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| and right then you monophthongized everything
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| I changed it so that we have less e's and o's
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| yes
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| i want to keep--jə̌w because mandarin
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| yóu
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| I do agree with ɨj/ɨw > i:/u:
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| "gozaimasu" should be an emphatic particle in kagasa
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| good time for the long vowel > tone split
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| yes
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| with the blaoighnity
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| same tones that we originally had
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| falsetto is too funny
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| early modern cuatham can sound like yodelling
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| fa:m, djə̀-S, njə:j (high), mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwû:, ljə̀:, pʰjə̌w, kjə-S (high falling)
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| with long vowels?
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| sorry
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| fa:m, djə̀-S, njəj (high), mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwû, ljə̀, pʰjə̌w, kjə-S (high falling)
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| then we can harmonize jə to je and perhaps wə to wo
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| yes
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| except you don't have jew
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| shouldn't fa:m have a tone change?
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| sorry
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| fam (mid falling), djə̀-S, njəj (high), mwɨl, zjə̀l, tʰwəm, fwû, ljə̀, pʰjə̌w, kjə-S (high falling)
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| i'll use tone numbers now
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| next crazy idea!
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| a monosyllabic tonal language based on Schwünter
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| where each word gets compressed to a single syllable
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| fam31, djə22-S, njej55, mwɨl33, sjəl22, tʰwəm33, fwu51, ljə21, pʰjəw15, kjə51-S
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| yes
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| wɨ, jɨ > u, i
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| fam31, djə22-S, njej55, mul33, sjəl22, tʰwəm33, fwu51, ljə21, pʰjəw15, kjə51-S
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| so 4 can be "mul"
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| that's the joke
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| bevolo -> beolo -> beol -> meol -> mul
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| now the clickification
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| fam31, gǀə22-S, ŋǀej55, !aw21, sjəl22, tʰwəm33, fɨ51, ʎə21, ʘʰəw33, cə51-S
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| fadham, dè, néidhigh, đàdhabh, sèil, trobhuam, faoidh, lèidh, preobh, céidh
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| ur > u:ə > uə > Modern Kurmian ua
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| so Cuam, genitive Cuatham
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| </poem>
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