User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole/Sketchbook

Technoquintlan

Premise: Crackfic Earth-Tricin (the old one, we are living in a bad draft!), Inthar and Schngellstein were the first ones to know of the other worlds and so they compiled information on their languages and passed it off as their own, and six conworlders (Cole, Athitrydhen, Inthar, Plu, Balang, and Schngellstein) create a far-future version of the world they're living in

Etymology: Quintlanic + techno(logy) + Tenochtitlan

Spatial reach

Aim for planets close to Earth and Tricin, as well as some moons

Earth`
Moon (satellite)
Mars

(did some digging up and found Clofabosin planets' names, thanks!)

Tricin
Porfin (satellite)
Olatin
Fricadin

Sketches

Neu-Europa (Official languages: English, German, French, Akademiesprache, Riemannic)
- New United Kingdom
- Norwegian Northern Polar Territory
- Swedish Southern Polar Territory
- Kardän
- Neues Deutsches Reich
- Nouvelle République Française
- Uuden Suomen Tasavalta
- Usiletalstaten

Main languages

Colloquial languages

There are over 20,000 colloquial languages spoken in Technoquintlan. The most spoken is ??? followed by ???. Scellan lost its status as a lingua franca very quickly, at about fT 2350, and English and Clofabosin lose their status as lingua francas at around fT 2700.

Nahuatl (main Earth language)
Naquian (main Tricin language)
Anloclofaboserotin
- Madison Tyndall Nibuterol (Medisån Tindol Nibuterol), the new Ativan
- Six vowels: a e i o u å /a ɛ i ɔ u ə/
- this seriously needs to be written in Deseret and be the official language of all Mormons (please no I'm not Mormon)
fT 2700 colloquial Hlou

Academic languages

The two main academic languages of Technoquintlan are:

Wug Nlab (pure mathematicians, physicists, programmers, essentially Future Hlou)
Akademiesprache (applied mathematicians, chemists, biologists, other applied fields, essentially Germano-Greek)

They were created in the period between fT 2400-2550 (approx. Earth 2100-2250) and they were somehow adopted as lingua francas within the academic community. An experiment was created to attempt to have a child with Wug Nlab as his native language. Sadly the experiment didn't work and he learned Hlou instead. However, there are many Akademiesprache native speakers in Kardän, Neu-Europa.

Musical cultures

Most, if not all, major Terran and Trician musical cultures were preserved:

Western European (12edo diatonic)
Sinitic (12edo pentatonic/infradiatonic (Yasser))
Clofabian (meantone/12edo and 7edo)
Indian (roughly 5-limit JI)
Talman-Hlou (tonality diamond scales)
Arab (roughly 24edo, heptamaqamic)
Bjeheondian (roughly 24edo, pentamaqamic)

However, other musical cultures were created due to either prolonged contact or prolonged isolation of Terran and/or Trician groups.

Aim for a Technoquintlan#UnXen

EDO-based

Clofabo-Dutch (31edo) (basically meantone + 3L 4s + harmonic scale from 7-14 + corresponding subharmonic scale, nothing too adventurous)
- Main pitched instruments (all traditionally fully mechanical, though electronic versions are common):
  - focefluin or Fokker-orgel (Fokker organ)
  - focepressin or Fokker-klavecimbel (Fokker harpsichord)
  - focepressofluin or Fokker-klaveorgel (technically a misnomer, Fokker claviorganum)
- Uses Fokker layout for 31edo and Western staff notation
- Main unpitched instruments: pictin of course
- Borrows inspiration from Baroque music as well as traditional Clofab folk music (uses 3L 4s as an approximation to the acen's 7-note scale)
- Western musical forms

JI-based

RT-based

Pludian (some extended hemipyth temperament)
- the people who speak Wug Nlab and have enough balls to play in this temperament seriously are smarter than most of us, including me, a mere messenger

Miscellaneous

Arabo-Bjeheondo-Finnish hemipyth tradition (insert hemipyth nonsense here probably)

Silly language family trees

Platonic languages
- Simplicial languages
- Hypercubic languages
- Orthoplician languages
- Pentagonal languages
  - Dodecahedral
    - Hundachoral
  - Icosahedral
    - Kinexscorchoral
- Octaplicial (highly conservative isolate in the Platonic language family)

Vowel triangle nonsense

i y ɯ u
 e ø o     ə
  ɛ ɔ
   a

Neologisms/already existing words that are actually made up of words from different languages

Vandermonde (lit. of the world) - uses Dutch, German, French
Platterra (I like the spelling Platerra more despite removing one 't' from Platt) (lit. flat earth) - uses German, Latin

North Germanic Old Chinese phonology

Initials: m n ŋ <nk> ŋw <nkw> p t ts k kw b d dz g gw f v ð s z ʃ <sk> ç <ch> w r l j h
Medials: r j
Nuclei: a æ e i o ɔ <å> ø u y ie yø oy <eu> aj <ai> aw <au> uo
Codas: j w l m n ŋ <nk> p t k ð

(C)(C)V(C) structure

Gibberish

(Credit partially to Praveen for the second verse, I corrupted it a bit becaise I couldn't remember the original)

ðyt prot skak tryl
sket vråm hæp kyl
nkak skrið el traum
ðin tsjaink breut wan dzyl

kup brå konk kaup
ða skryp skrank braup
gwra gwrim røð grøð
ðå zrænk gwæð brønk sklaup

Trician music ideas

A balalaika-like instrument in Zlikezhwws?
Zliceans could have a 7edo tradition (with acen included!), borrowed by the Clofabians

Schlaub poetry

Ndleiß dzah xäub
Laub dzah taub
zied an xan,
bluß dzah Schlaub

Turning Wiebian into Riemannic gib

macrons on stressed syllables
write everything phonetically
replace clicks with dental fricatives

Orthographical abuse

Schlaub:

Standard:        Tlad Hei drlah Mbauß, xan schnuh zied nraug, xob Ndzäu beis schraus Ihn Vug, Ngiß Tsahn we jaud schrieb mbug.
Pinyin spoob:    Tlà hăi drlah mbăúng, xǎ sjuh zǜ nrăuh, xō nzăun băí shăú ǐh vuh, ngíng tsǎn we jăù shǖ mbuh.
Riemannic spoob: tlad hə̄i drlah mbəūt, σan hnūh zyd nrəūk, σob ndzəūl bəis σjəūs in vūk, ngit tsān we jəūd σjym mbūk.

Clofabosin:

Standard: cefditoren rupalimab, ziruvenin conalimab, apizanol vactolepin, boracenol seprabuctan
Cyrillic: кефдиторен рупалимаб, зирувенин коналимаб, апизанол вактолепин, боракенол сепрабуктан
Greek:    κεφντιτωρεν ρουπαλιμαμπ, ζιρουβενιν κωναλιμαμπ, απιζανωλ βακτωλεπιν, μπωρακενωλ σεπραμπουκταν

Why I am uninterested in creating a priori languages (in general)

The exact reason why I am uninterested in creating a priori languages is because that they are just that. A priori. A word could mean absolutely anything in an a priori conlang. If you take the same gibberish passage, it can mean two completely different things, in two completely different a priori 'languages', even if they have the same phonology and syntax. With a posteriori you at least have a base (or multiple bases) for your language. Mathematical/philosophical languages are an exception for me. In my mind, they are 'a posteriori' in some sense - the 'words' are based off some mathematical system!

Still, feel free to contest my opinion.

Talma-Zlïkezhẅẅs-Clofabolocin-Spoobland hypothesis

Same as Talma-Spoobland, except that the Zlïke were trading with the Clofabians in addition to the Hlou, and that the ẅ letter, which is completely redundant in Zlïke, was chosen because of its resemblance to a spoob (due to Hlou-Zlïke trading and Gloobic Zlïkezhẅẅs)

Earth#Spoob

Premise:

Schngellstein: ...Anyway, I just want to hear your comments on my conworld called Earth.

Plu: Remove IE.

Schngellstein: ...Why? I spent years working on IE! YEARS! I COULD HAVE MADE IT THE ONLY LANGUAGE FAMILY OF EARTH BUT LISTEN, LISTEN, YOU FOOLS...

(Prafin tries to calm Schngellstein down.)

Prafin: Yeah, Plu's right. Remove IE.

Schngellstein: YOU ARE ALL STUPID! (insert incoherent ranting)

Plu: (shouting) THE MAJOR LANGUAGES OF EARTH SHOULD BE HMONG, SWAHILI, AND ARABIC.

Prafin: Plu, you forgot Hebrew and Aramaic. Were you writing notes?

Plu: I'm sorry, I was too focused on this...

(Plu hands a piece of paper to Schngellstein. He reads the paper out loud.)

Schngellstein: Hmong... Europe... Asia... Wait, that's just Tricin all over again! You can't just copy our world and make it mine!

Plu: But it worked for us here in Tricin, it will work on Earth too.

Ideas for Hlou-Shum

DO NOT USE SPOOB ORTHOGRAPHIES
Use generalized IE sound change laws for sound changes, maybe some non-Hlouic languages have prenasalized fricatives (reverse Grimm)
Sino-Tibetan sound changes too?
Schlaub's old -l tone was glottal descending
Gloob has so many tones because of Schlaub + Clooa, have irregular system of rimes
Just call the Hlou-Shum land Mpfa Wieb (old Tricin reference) (Wieb = North?)
Reverse-engineer PHS
Liaic multisyllables
Hlou-Shum language that resolves its tons of homophones with compounding like Mandarin

Pristac Guanorliviroc extension

TODO: more natlangs

loet3 dan6 zaat5 van4 si2 meng1 tok4
Wise dam strome in Vlamsemock,
Nyiaj cauv txa mleem hnlus plhoob khog,
pristac guanorliviroc!

Hwæt in Dōnaȝ, iċ bin Ðrok,
Szczesbryżęnawolydzwnąk,
Ânggae dylethyff rhwyddoc,
pristac guanorliviroc!

Horrid Clofabosin national anthem parody

(to Alicia's tune)

May this ditoren be heard
See the enin, beautiful bird
Our saviour, Tdap Ativan,
Will drive out the arrogant clan

Wiebians, Zlike, and Dodellians
They're our brothers in our god Vans
But you Naengites, flee from our land
Your Wen Damea's made out of sand

History of Tricin, oversimplified

hlou-shum started the server, made one channel, #etatalma
wendamea entered the server
wendamea: this is our channel
hlou-shum makes another channel, #wieb
ae entered the server
ae in #wieb: this is our channel
hlou-shum: [clooa] no
hlou-shum: [hlou] we can compromise, no?
ae: yes!!!!!

wendamea makes server rules, hlou-shum blocks wendamea
clofabolocin entered the server
wendamea: you little...
clofabolocin: no u
clofabolocin expands
zlike entered the server
clofabolocin sends friend request to zlike
zlike accepts
wendamea: now you two!!!
clofabolocin expands
clofabolocin: no u
<hundred years war>
hlou-shum unmutes #etatalma
hlou-shum: what now
clofabolocin: wendamea bad
hlou-shum: meh
zlike: agreed
clofabolocin sends friend request to hlou-shum
hlou-shum accepts
hlou-shum: [gloob] i wonder what they are doing in zlikezhwws
hlou-shum to zlike: hello, can my people be part of yours
zlike: no
hlou-shum: but wendamea bad
zlike: wtf clofabolocin told me that earlier, are we the same
hlou-shum: no
hlou-shum sends friend request to zlike
zlike reluctantly accepts

etatalma

c, h, z: wendamea bad
clofabolocin: @hlou-shum ban @wendamea
wendamea: who pinged me
<First Pan-Trician War>

why am I doing this

My trousers

trhej yanH dzat lungX phek tsrom nrængH! gunH srak tsjwængX khrengH zip-trajH trhɛkX zyɛk plɛk tsrɛk mɛck nrɛck peck schreck... Ah, my cropsack!

Kleeth

English kleeth <- Old English klēoþ <- PGmc *kleuþaz <- PIE *gleh1t

GF(2)lang

Phonology

Orthography	Consonant	Vowel
0	/ʔ/	/i/
1	/w/	/u/
+	/t/	/e/
×	/l/	/o/
(	/k/	/ɛ/
)	/h/	/ɔ/
p	/m/	/ə/
'	/n/	/a/

Syllables

**Allowed CV sequences**
		0+ /ʔe/	0× /ʔo/		0) /ʔɔ/
		1+ /we/	1× /wo/		1) /wɔ/
+0 /ti/	+1 /tu/			+( /tɛ/		+p /tə/
×0 /li/	×1 /lu/			×( /lɛ/		×p /lə/
(0 /ki/	(1 /ku/			(( /kɛ/		(p /kə/
		)+ /he/	)× /ho/		)) /hɔ/
		p+ /me/	p× /mo/		p) /mɔ/		p’ /ma/
		’+ /ne/	’× /no/		’) /nɔ/		’’ /na/

**Allowed VC sequences**
		0+ /it/	0× /il/		0) /ih/
		1+ /ut/	1× /ul/		1) /uh/
+0 /eʔ/	+1 /ew/			+( /ek/		+p /em/
×0 /oʔ/	×1 /ow/			×( /ok/		×p /om/
(0 /ɛʔ/	(1 /ɛw/			(( /ɛk/		(p /ɛm/
		)+ /ɔt/	)× /ɔl/		)) /ɔh/
		p+ /ət/	p× /əl/		p) /əh/		p’ /ən/
		’+ /at/	’× /al/		’) /ah/		’’ /an/

Phonological rules

Any word that ends with a consonant is always pronounced appended with an /ɨ/. All words alternate consonants and vowels, starting with a consonant.

No word can start with +, ×, ), or ’ (so no starting with any of /t l h n/).

No word can end with +, ×, or ( (so no ending with any of /t l k e o ɛ/).

The rule of kɛhɔ (this string is not allowed). The total sum of k and ɛ phonemes is the same as the sum of h and ɔ phonemes. Any k or ɛ phoneme must always appear before any h or ɔ phoneme chronologically.