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| ō, u || o || o ~ ɔo | | ō, u || o || o ~ ɔo | ||
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| e, ae || ɛ || eɛ | | e, ae || ɛ || eɛ (> ie; but this was later than 600AD) | ||
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| o || ɔ || oɔ (> uo > ue; but this was later than 600AD) | |||
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| a || a || a | | a || a || a | ||
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| r || r, : (in rs > ss e.g. dorsu- > dosso; tempero-dialectal thing) || r || rj | | r || r, : (in rs > ss e.g. dorsu- > dosso; tempero-dialectal thing) || r || rj | ||
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| l || | | l || l || l ~ r || lj ~ jl | ||
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== Last but definitely not least == | == Last but definitely not least == | ||
(Source I recommend reading the first parts of the "Chronological history" section of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_French) | |||
* word initial s- becomes ǐs- > ēs- (es-) | |||
* Any word final consonant in Latin that isn't -s gets culled off unless it's a monosyllable (e.g. rem > rien) | |||
* ns > s (mensa > mesa) | |||
* rs > ss (sporadically due to different trends in different communities) (*Dorsum > *dossu > dos in Fr, ursum > urso) | |||
* unstressed intertonic vowels get reduced into oblivion in specific circumstances (Consult wikipedia page) | |||
* -er > -re, -or > -ro -- French would lose final -e in general, thus super > supre > suwr(e) > sur; Spanish joins in later with -dad. | |||
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* kt > jt | |||
* ks > js (~sj > š in some areas) | |||
* Some inconsistent treatment of breaking vowels before palatals e.g. French nŏ́jte > nuojte > nujt > nuit; Es. noche, but mucho. | |||
* Less inconsistent treatment of breaking vowels before liquids and nasals, e.g. Spanish tierra but French terre, but O.Fr. tertium > tierz | |||
* Some disagreement between family members on how to treat things before semivowels in general, e.g. French sur but Es. sobre. |
Latest revision as of 08:13, 22 October 2017
Vowels
Classical Latin | Closed | Open & Tonic |
---|---|---|
ī | Example | Example |
ū | Example | Example |
ē, i, oe | e | e ~ ɛe |
ō, u | o | o ~ ɔo |
e, ae | ɛ | eɛ (> ie; but this was later than 600AD) |
o | ɔ | oɔ (> uo > ue; but this was later than 600AD) |
a | a | a |
au | ɔ | ɒɔ |
In addition:
- for all vowels other than closed and au, there are open-stressed variants that are slightly diphthongised, e.g. ɛ might be eɛ and e might be ɛe
- new diphthongs arise as consonants lenite away
- unstressed e often turns into a semivowel before other vowels, this happening quite early on.
Consonants
Classical Latin | Normal | Intervocalic (ignoring r's) | Palatalised |
---|---|---|---|
p | p | p | p (unless voiced first) |
t | t | d | tsj |
c | c | Example | tsj > z <c, ç, z>(unless voiced first) |
qu | qu | gu | rarely tsj > z, mostly k (cf. cinco) |
b | b | Example | j (rubeV-> rojo, rouge) |
d | d | Example | j (diurnal- > journal) |
g | g | event. j | j (g ~ j alternations) |
x | - | js | js ~ sj |
f | Example | Example | Example |
s | s | s ~ z | sj ~ js (cf. x) |
h | Ø? | Ø | Ø |
m | m | m | mj, nj (cambiare > change) |
n | n, Ø (in ns) | n | nj |
r | r, : (in rs > ss e.g. dorsu- > dosso; tempero-dialectal thing) | r | rj |
l | l | l ~ r | lj ~ jl |
In addition:
- L after vowels originally is dark when it becomes a semi-vowel (e.g. altro > otro), but later on it stops being dark in some dialects, allowing for "mucho" to exist).
Last but definitely not least
(Source I recommend reading the first parts of the "Chronological history" section of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_French)
- word initial s- becomes ǐs- > ēs- (es-)
- Any word final consonant in Latin that isn't -s gets culled off unless it's a monosyllable (e.g. rem > rien)
- ns > s (mensa > mesa)
- rs > ss (sporadically due to different trends in different communities) (*Dorsum > *dossu > dos in Fr, ursum > urso)
- unstressed intertonic vowels get reduced into oblivion in specific circumstances (Consult wikipedia page)
- -er > -re, -or > -ro -- French would lose final -e in general, thus super > supre > suwr(e) > sur; Spanish joins in later with -dad.
- kt > jt
- ks > js (~sj > š in some areas)
- Some inconsistent treatment of breaking vowels before palatals e.g. French nŏ́jte > nuojte > nujt > nuit; Es. noche, but mucho.
- Less inconsistent treatment of breaking vowels before liquids and nasals, e.g. Spanish tierra but French terre, but O.Fr. tertium > tierz
- Some disagreement between family members on how to treat things before semivowels in general, e.g. French sur but Es. sobre.