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|colspan=21|''Lannarīzānd sēseid R rōd Z ca aliūzella aljūza sei.''||

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|~~Lannarīzānd~~||sē-seid||R||rōd||Z||ca||aliūzell-a||aljūz-a||sei||

|Lanniazānd||sē-seid||R||rōd||Z||ca||aliūzell-a||aljūz-a||sei||

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|twist-{{sc|ipfv.pst-3pl}}|| {{sc|refl.}}intensifier-they.{{sc|dat}}||R||for_purpose_of.{{sc|prep}}||Z||also||different-{{sc|neut.pl}}||thing{{sc|-neut.pl}}||they||

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Let's see... from ''Bhōzōiōm'' from *bʰeh₂, then ''peri'' from *peri... Why voice*h₁és(e)t(i) to ''izd''? Also, I suppose the "she" and "they" are feminine demonstratives? Maybe you could gloss that differently? Also, the ''Lannarīzānd'' is not that transparent to me...! Amazing language, truly! :D [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]''' 20:39, 14 November 2012 (CET)

:In the Continental varieties intervocalic s gets voiced, thus *h₁és(e)ti -> *ízeti -> ízəd -> izd. This is somewhat sporadic because there is some analogical levelling present. Lannarīzānd is actually miswritten I see now. For starters it should be -ānd and not -zānd. Then the stem is off too, '''*lnk-ya-''' (0-grade derivative of PIE **lenk-) should have developed into ''lannia-'' (at least in this dialect). The PIE sigmatic aorist -> imperfective past is here affixed. (s > z) (I appear to have added the Insular version -rī- for some weird reason.)

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|lannia-z-ānd||

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|twist-{{sc|ipfv.pst-3pl}}

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:change/twist/distort are the defs. of the verb ''lanniad''. Thus while literally "they have twisted for themselves" I translated it as changed. And regarding sa/sei: the pronoun system in Dhannuá is quite "broken". The s- forms appear to have taken over, so while the plural sei appears to be from **seh₂i it is not. (the feminine plural is ''sai''). It's instead poor *toi becoming likened to *seh₂i and thus giving sei. Just in case you wonder about the dative in -d; the Dhannuán dative is technically a mischung of the IE ablative with its -d, inherited from thematic -ōt, and the true dative in -ōy.

I wouldn't have caught it had you not pointed it out. Doing things purely in the head is quite uhh, brain-hurting after a while. Thanks :D [[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 23:25, 14 November 2012 (CET)

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