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Front page

I love the new front page, its awesome! Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:11, 14 July 2013 (CEST)

I agree! It looks simpler and cleaner. Keep up the good work! Newrhotic (talk) 01:29, 15 July 2013 (CEST)


Thanks, both of you! Any criticism? I have no problems to improve it continuously! Sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 15:53, 15 July 2013 (CEST)

Agreed! The new front page is freaking awesome! You're awesome! --Admin.png Chrysophylax 23:00, 18 July 2013 (CEST)

Let's not exaggerate! :P Do tell if you need me to change anything. Waahlis.png Waahlis 00:46, 21 July 2013 (CEST)

Cwengâr&Fén Ghír

The pages for these two languages on my computer do not have a side or top bar and cut off before the end [specifically at "vowels" and "ba" respectively], other language pages seem to be working fine. Could you look into this for me?

-Cheers, Fauxlosophe (talk) 00:53, 18 July 2013 (CEST)


Of course, I'll look into it. However, I don't quite grasp the problem? Waahlis.png Waahlis 16:20, 18 July 2013 (CEST)

I should have gotten a screen grab but it seems to have resolved itself. If you're interested, just incase this is a recurring error;

  • The main page itself was the only thing visible; the side bar [Mainpage, Announcements, Recent Changes... Toolbox, Other], tabs [Mainpage, Discussion, Read, Edit... Go, Search] and top bar [My Talk, My Preferences, My Watchlist... etc] were simply blank; there was no visible text or anything where they should have been.
  • The end of the page also cut off; nothing after certain sections were accessible and the browser treated it as if the page ended there in the middle of the article, not allowing me to scroll further down; thus the Category section was not accessible.
  • Attempting to link to the areas cut off from the navigation box or using ctrl+f to find a word would give no response [or no result in the case of ctrl+f], though the navigation box would link me directly to the parts of the article as it would normally on other pages.

Hasn't happened to me before on any other forums so I suspect it may have been an error with Linguifex, possibly due to my trying to access these pages through history or favourites? Either way, it is resolved now.

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2013 (CEST)


Hmm, I haven't experienced anything similar. Have you encountered it more than once? Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:40, 24 July 2013 (CEST)

A Priori

I want to create a completely new language to use while I work on my Germanic conlang. I want it to be totally unrelated to any living languages but still go with the old European Nominative-Accusative fusional deal. The thing is, I want to make it so it seems to flow easily and look good/beautiful when written. Do ye have any ideas for this and maybe any notable alphabets or ideas to create a constructed script? --OlySlayer (talk) 01:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

And I'm not just talking about visually flowing, but I mean it could just roll off the tongue like a delicious smoothy of sorts :) --OlySlayer (talk) 01:41, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Try a hawaiian esque free vowel no dipthong system, but replace all stops with a lot of taps, trills, nasals, and approximants like you see in Indian languages. Add tone to give it a songlike quality. As for the writing system, look at the alphabets of southern india, they were written on palm leaves which would rip if the script was too rough. Also make all your sounds voiced, voiceless sounds interrupt the hum of speech. Of course, I'm defining flow as sounds which do not interrupt the hum of voiced speech. You might not actually know what what you want when you think of something so subjective as how a language "rools of the tongue", in which case, you are the only one who can decide.

Greatbuddha (talk) 08:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Hey, thanks for the great insight! I'll definitely check out the Hawaiian speech and southern Indian script. I hadn't thought of the voicing and I don't really know what tone is but I'll definitely look into it, and yeah that is quite subjective I s'pose :p Thanks! --OlySlayer (talk) 09:58, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


Greatbuddha makes a few great points. My personal trick for this is to try to imitate an orthography of a language that I really like, be it a conlang or natlang, and make a completely different grammar. Think of it as a car, you paint it, add a few features, but under the bonnet, no one grasps its complexity!

I'd say you should do this: Take a shorter text and then semi-translate it into a few different sketchlangs, all of them with different orthographies and phonologies, then see which one you like the best, or mix them up! Hope it helps at all, Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:36, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Sounds like a plan! In my conworld it's supposed to be a sort of language of the angels so that's what I'm looking for. :) --OlySlayer (talk) 00:47, 27 July 2013 (CEST)

¡Hola, guapetón!

Hola, chicote, ¿cómo andas? No nos sentimos desde hace tiempo. Te escribo para dejarte un recado: dentro de dos días me marcho a Alemania para hacer un curso avanzado de alemán, vuelvo el 31 de augusto, entonces no creo que nos vamos a hablar hasta aquel día :( He aprobado el test de sueco con 86/100 puntos y ahora tengo uficialmente un nivel B1 de lengua sueca, ¡todavía no lo creo! Tú, ¿qué me cuentas? ¿Vacaciones? ¿Viajes? Te doy un gran abrazo y hasta pronto :) Llyn.png Llais 20:39, 28 July 2013 (CET)


¡Hola! Ando bien, como siempre. :) ¡Felicidades, lo mereces! :D Vale, te estaré esperando. Espero que lo pases bomba; he oido que el tiempo en Alemania hace extremadamente bien. Jajaja, mis vacaciones terminan dentro de pronto, y después vuelvo al instituto para continuar mis estudios. :)

¡Un gran abrazo a ti también! Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:28, 31 July 2013 (CEST)

Voting

Can I nominate a language to be featured which I feel to be sufficiently complete but without the featured banner translated yet? Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd (talk) 05:16, 13 August 2013 (CEST)

As long as you can translate the banner and does it, yes Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 11:55, 13 August 2013 (CEST)

That wouldn't be necessary. A nomination doesn't really need the translation banner. But it won't pass the voting round without the banner. :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:40, 17 August 2013 (CEST)

Välyatalle etymologies

From Välyatalle/Etymologies I present you with

*kaʔlʲaśa: Va. kaalas "party, celebration"; Elas. kályaz "dance".
*chuckles* --Admin.png Chrysophylax 03:04, 30 August 2013 (CEST)

Congradulations

Congrats on usurping my title as featured language. However mark my words that a Sphaeran language will return! You haven't seen the last of Galavic on the front page. Maaaaaaaark my wooooorrrrrddddddddds!

Sincerely though; congrats on the election,

Cheers,

Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


Mehe, The Usurper does have a certain ring to it...! But when it returns, believe me, then the Ris and Rana languages will be prepared! I shall mark your words with Indian ink if that's what it'll take! ^^And thank you, it was nail-biting in the end! Sincererly, Waahlis.png Waahlis 10:42, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Congratulations indeed! Neym rope hat ahezinimy nik napek phorik! "I'm happy that your language was featured!" Juhhmi (talk) 11:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

*mutters in high front/back vowels, rounded and unrounded with lots of geminate consonants* Vahalya cometh! --Admin.png Chrysophylax 11:30, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Congratulations! Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 11:41, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Ie ham ganalkáltiji themsármȁ! And don't underestimate Themsaran! Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Dônalh Cwengâr 'ongŷgw gwô ôrha ngâr ngàr ô ffetam ât hôrha rŷnobanaff... cwê ugwôn! Cwengaer will crush your languages underfoot and burn your writings... eventually!--Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:16, 2 September 2013 (CEST)


Thank you! I'm sure all of you will outperform me! ^^ Let's just avoid multicultural war. Waahlis.png Waahlis 18:13, 2 September 2013 (CEST)

First Linguifex Relay

Tag, you're it! You can find the torch here! Have fun. :)

Relaytorch.svg This user is currently the torch bearer for First Linguifex Relay/Harākti and was handed it on 18:30, 6 September 2013 (CEST) by Ashucky. The torch will automagically pass on to the next relay member in 48 hours.


Arena

I can't create new threads here. Should we get the ball rolling on this? -Fauxlosophe (talk) 22:52, 16 September 2013 (CEST)


Sorry, that's from when I thought it was supposed to be a relay forum! I shall change it right away! By the way, I won't be very active here for about a week; I am currently writing the Second Linguifex Relay, and reconstructing a proto-language of mine! ^^ Waahlis.png Waahlis 23:15, 16 September 2013 (CEST)

Then as tempting as it may be, I won't usurp you with my own already finished text until after but I do have a few good ideas for other things we could do in the meantime. I'll put them up soon-Fauxlosophe (talk) 06:56, 17 September 2013 (CEST)

Let's decide that's the third one then! And please, go ahead! Message all the people you want there or ask Chrys to make cross-wiki announcement! I shall try to participate, myself. Waahlis.png Waahlis 07:45, 17 September 2013 (CEST)

I put up a few threads, the proverb one was specifically with you in mind. I've got a few proverbs in Fén that I'm happy with but you've got some catered perfectly for your language. Check out the rest as well!-Fauxlosophe (talk) 23:35, 25 September 2013 (CEST)

The Comlang

Are we going to finish it? Or do you want to start a new one? (Or not do a comlang at all?)

I don't really care, I was just look forward to all the linguistic experience probably it'd give me.
CLtɔk ˈpeɪdʒ/ 23:42, 9 October 2013 (CEST)

Neghal díril

Cíné me ít. Té re ba fhaben cur bhoci!

Tel té bér cór re.

--Fauxlosophe (talk) 05:27, 25 November 2013 (CET)

PS. This relay reminded me of how much I love Fén and why. It just sounds so pretty next to the near inpenetrable and unpronouncable Cwengâr.

Alska Reversion

Why was Alska reverted to how it was before? I'm going through and updating/remaking the language. Just wondering Darthme (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2013 (CET)


Oh, my dear bloody God! What have I done!? I'm so sorry, I'm on my tablet when browsing the site nowadays, I must've mistakenly reverted your edits! Have you fixed it, or shall I do it in the morning?

Pardon me, most sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 00:37, 1 December 2013 (CET)


No it's fine, I reverted it again. For a moment I freaked out but the I remembered there was a changelog for each page, so I just set it back to how I had it. It's all good, so no worries. :) Darthme (talk) 11:18, 1 December 2013 (CET)

I'm ever so sorry! :P It shan't happen again! Waahlis.png Waahlis 11:21, 1 December 2013 (CET)

Next Relay

I have the text ready for the next relay as of ages ago. Chrys has volunteered to be the first victim as his conlang shares a few similarities to mine and will make the transition a little easier. As soon as you're ready to start collecting volunteers, I'm able to assemble a gloss.

Also when are we doing the next featured language?

Slán,

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 07:08, 13 December 2013 (CET)

On behalf of Waahlis (and indeed, all Swedes), I apologise for the tardy response. December 13 is Lucia day in Sweden where we celebrate the memory of light, warmth and sacrifice in the midst of seemingly everlasting darkness and cold with sweet saffron-buns and cookies. Furthermore, I am would like to inquire about which language specifically you have in mind? None of my languages are as analytic as yours :P And, I have a new pet project, at User:Chrysophylax/Skājamāl, which I'd love to use in the next relay if that's fine. It's YAIEL (Yet Another Indo-European Conlang) like Dhannuá so it shouldn't be too far removed grammatically in general terms, if you want to know what to expect. --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 07:26, 14 December 2013 (CET)
I just assumed that I put in fair late for you guys and it might take 24ish hours to get a reply, so no worries for lateness. Happy Lucia, by the way.
I was thinking of Dhannuá, since both draw on celtic elements. Generally though, it's the fact that you've already done a translation of The Wildman and the King, which I felt got the flavour of what I was going for, means you have some experience rooting through what I feel is a rather difficult conlang and one which might be even more difficult for someone going into it blind with a language that has a vocabuluary better suited for a futuristic or contemporary setting, in the same way that I tend to have trouble translating really contemporary elements. But I'm definitely okay with whatever, so Skājamāl suits me if that's what has your interest at the moment.
-Fauxlosophe (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Certainly, I can initiate the sign-ups right now! However, bear in mind that the draught will take about one week, and then there's one week for the relay itself; we are after all approaching the Christmastide, and as such the activity will reach new lows. :P


The featured language nominations on the other hand, I'm willing to initiate on the spot!

Sincerely, and Happy Lucia,Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:47, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Awesome!

Cheers and Happy Lucia, -Fauxlosophe (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Gamla saker

Kollar in Voldemorts lya på sistonde? Samma dåliga skit på framsidan som då vi drog :P Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 16:51, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Välkommen tillbaka! Allt väl? Ah, jag besökte honom nyss, var ju inte livat precis. Här har ju blivit väldigt tyst å det senaste också! Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Translations for those who don't speak Swedish (trolol)

"Calling in Voldemort's lair pass sister? Some daily skit pass from-side some day we drink :P"
"Welcome till back! All's well? Ah, I besought him n-yes, were you not living precisely. Har-har you believed welding this and that so-nasty oxen!"

--OlySlayer (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Tillbaka? Jag drog aldrig :) jag håller koll på stället hela tiden här! Det är mer liv här än där XD Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:08, 1 January 2014 (CET)

Haha, Oly, did you get it all? ^^Och Zelos, vi ska nog få fart på det litet grand nu. Det är snart omröstning för ett månadens språk - se te att rösta! Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:37, 3 January 2014 (CET)

Jag håller min röst gisslan :P Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 15:49, 3 January 2014 (CET)

Apologies/Third Relay

Hey,

Sorry for delaying everything around here! I got blindsided by a lot of stuff over the holidays and fell behind, I've been playing a frantic game of catchup since. I should have hte first leg up soon and will vote promptly.

Apologies,

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:45, 19 January 2014 (CET)

Oh no worries! I myself ought to apologise, I have been fairly busy as well! I'm just glad it's started. :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 08:32, 21 January 2014 (CET)

On the template

Hey Waahlis, I just got a message on my talk page reminding me of something that came up a few months ago. I was wondering if the language template could be changed to allow V2 as an option rather than only SVO or OSV. --OlySlayer (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2014 (CET)


Hi! I apologise, I have been away for a while! No matter, I have adjusted the template, and it now allows for the following extra word orders:


| V2=Verb-second
| VF=Verb-final
| SV=Subject-verb
| VS=Verb-subject
| OV= Object-verb
| VO=Verb-object
| SO=Subject-object
| OS=Object-subject
| Free=Free
| Non-configurational=Non-configurational

Hope it helps! Sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 08:41, 21 January 2014 (CET)

Death by SVG

Sorry, I think I broke something here: File:MorphSyntAlign2.svg!! --Aquatiki (talk) 02:58, 30 January 2014 (CET)


Ah, yes, an SVG! We attempted to install support for them, but it backfired somewhat! No worries, I'll just delete it - I saw you updated a PNG equivalent. :) It can't affect the wiki as a whole, but I'm glad you left a message! Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:35, 30 January 2014 (CET)
OK. It was a major undertaking to get it working on my own personal wiki. Getting the latest version of PHP, ImageMagick, and dependencies is a real pain. I recommend people try http://image.online-convert.com/convert-to-png if they need PNG's made. --Aquatiki (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2014 (CET)

Missing words

So, now I've finally managed to make sense of most of your text, but it seems these words/affixes are missing in the wordlist:

  • Unaccented ti-
  • Wuwúa-
  • Shakíne
  • -tsi
  • ay-

I hope I will be able to make sense of the whole text if you give me the translations of those words as well :P Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 19:05, 23 February 2014 (CET)



Sorry, most of these are clashes of draughts!

  • Unaccented ti- = 2.SG.POSS, also as tí--
  • Wuwúa- = 1PL.HE-
  • Shakíne = with that which is swift ~ quickly-
  • -tsi = CON, conative, "attempting to do something". The -tsi in Téeyimbaatsi is supposed to be an imperfective, though.
  • ay- = there is no inherent meaning as a prefix, but it does signify the subjunctive in words after ku; (uyáhahambay, yáahambayak).

I'm glad it wasn't any worse than this! ^^ Do tell if there's anything else! Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:11, 23 February 2014 (CET)

Ok, thanks. But if there is no prefix ay-, what's then going on with aytsurin? Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 13:36, 25 February 2014 (CET)


Hmm... Gloss it as "about". :P Hehee... :( Waahlis.png Waahlis 20:40, 25 February 2014 (CET)

Buerkáns

I was just wondering if you had any critique for my newest conlang, Buerkáns. Is it a plausible within the Germanic language family? Or just your thoughts on it in general. Darthme (talk) 23:40, 2 March 2014 (CET)

Hi! Sorry, I've been pretty absent lately! I'll leave a response on your talk page, instead! :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 18:59, 28 March 2014 (CET)

sj

What would be the best realisation for the Swedish "sj-sound" for a foreigner to adopt? PMOB.png Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán 14:04, 25 March 2014 (CET)


I would recommend a post-alveolar or possibly alveolo-palatal voiceless fricative, mainly because it's a common realisation in many dialects. It is not at all the accurate pronunciation, and not phonetically very close, however. Phonetically, try maybe, a voiceless labio-velar approximant or a very labialised voiceless velar fricative. Waahlis.png Waahlis 20:32, 25 March 2014 (CET)


Thanks for the advice! What is it for you? PMOB.png Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán 16:29, 29 March 2014 (CET)

Tree-fity

I absolutely hate when people whom are swedish does not make a distinction between sköld and köld, comon D: .

Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:39, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


I agree! I tried to remain a bit objective! ^^ Well, the true "sj"-sound doesn't have an agreed upon transcription. For me, a (rather) close approximation before rounded vowels is [ɸˠʷ], whilst [x̞ʷ] kind of works in other contexts. Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:54, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

It is our nation, we can be as much of mean bastards as we can! *shakes fist* Let's call the sound sklrplhglykhh and call it a day so no one can pronounce it as it requires 3 tounges and another 8 places of articulation Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 20:29, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

Can one use fingers as additional tongues? Though I won't start naming all the other places of articulation here... :P Juhhmi (talk) 22:27, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


¿Adivina quién está aquí?

Hola chico, ¿cómo estás? ¡La mar de tiempo que no nos hablamos! Muchísimo, mejor, "muchimuchísimo" :( Me han pasado muchas cosas en estos meses y no todas bonitas... ¡¡¡Por fin puedo volver a escribir algo a esta página y a modificar y continuar mis conlangs!!! Ahora estoy acabando mi trabajo para la graduación (la última graduación de las dos que sirven para completar un ciclo de estudios universitarios aquí) y he hecho una solicitud para ir a una Folkshögskola en Suecia y ahora tengo que esperar el resultado  :) Desde hace un poquito trabajo - pero sin salario - como profesor de italiano para extranjeros y me gusta mucho :) ¿Y tú? ¿Todo bien? ¡Una gran abrazada! Llyn.png Llais 02:56, 10 April 2014 (CEST)

Llyn! De verdad, Hace poco me he graduado de la escuela secundaria sueca, y por eso no he tenido tiempo por nada para trabajar en el wiki. Me alegra que todo va tan bien!! Yo también he trabajado como profesor privado (de las matemáticas)! Ya no has visitado Suecia? Qué pena! Cuál Folkhögskola has eligido? :O

Y como siempre, todo bien, visité España hace una semana! ^^ Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:43, 23 June 2014 (CEST)

¡Hola! La verdad ya no esperaba tu respuesta :P ¡Jajajaja! No te preocupes, te entiendo bien. ¡Felicidades! ¿Conoces bien las matemáticas también? ¡Qué bueno! :) Las cosas han mudado: he trabajado estos últimos tres meses como profesor privado de italiano CON salario :P Me han eligido para irme a Suecia, pero la Folkhögskola ha sido eligida por el Svenska Institutet: Vindeln. El 28 de augusto me voy y me quedo allá hasta el final de noviembre. Ya visité Estocolmo en 2009, esta va a ser mi segunda vez en Suecia :) Lo siento que yo no vaya a estar cerca de tu ciudad, me gustaría muchísimo conocerte en persona :) Ahora voy, estos días estoy preparando mis maletas y lo que me sirve para viajar a Suecia y quedarme allá durante tres meses :) Espero que me vaya a gustar como hace cinco años. Un beso Llyn.png Llais 21:59, 06 August 2014 (CEST)

Delete Conlang page please?

Hi Wåhlis! I was wondering if you could please delete my conlang pages:

User:Mcmisher96/Unnamed

and

User:Mcmisher96/Khavar

They are no longer desired.


Of course! One moment! Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:26, 23 June 2014 (CEST)

Hey again! Could you delete all my Czecklish documents and categories please? I want to start over again, because I've completely overhauled my conlang, with a new name, new phonology, and new morphology. Thanks!

Fixing this up

Linguifex:Policy

Domine, this page reads like a shoddy wikipedia expy. Maybe we should clean it up? As you've declared yourself policy taskmaster I won't edit unless you give me the OK. --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 21:38, 6 July 2014 (CEST)

Table Troubles

Hi! I was busy doing some work on Czecklish, and I just added the Template:Infobox and the Template:Classmeter to my main page Czecklish. I would like to know how to put the Template:Classmeter underneath the Template:Infobox. The two of them next to each other is unsightly, and distracting.

Dir auch frohe Weihnachten

Hallöchen, ganz erfrischend zu sehen, dass du zurück bist :-) Vielleicht könntest du betrachten darüber nachdenken, dich zu registrieren, wenn du Zeit hast, im vierten Linguifex Relay teilzunehmen? Ich habe noch eine weitere Sprache auszuprobieren und zur Schau zu stellen, darum habe ich mir erlaubt, vorzeitig darauf vorzubereiten... IlL (talk) 04:10, 24 December 2014 (CET)


Oh dear God, that was a pain translating! Thank you! Why yes, I might just join; I'm going to guess you haven't started yet. I have an annoying tendency to suddenly disappear nowadays, but I'll try to fight myself and participate!

Sincerely, and as we say in Sweden, God Fortsättning! Waahlis.png Waahlis 23:19, 26 December 2014 (CET)

Ah, tut mir leid, dass "that was a pain translating!" (Ich sehe, dass ich da das falsche Verb verwendete!) Ich hoffe, dass sich mein Deutsch inzwischen verbessert hat, wenn auch nur ein wenig. Nun endet bei mir dieses Semester... ich verspreche, dass ich in diesem Monat einen akzeptablen Quelltext fürs Relay verfasse. IlL (talk) 05:50, 2 May 2015 (CEST)

Dump

Sorry about this!

Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 18:40, 5 July 2015 (CEST)

Hallå? Det är dags.

[ insert IKEA-dalahäst ] vassegå --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 11:08, 13 July 2015 (CEST)

Offensive

I find this offensive Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 16:37, 21 June 2016 (CEST)

Sixth Linguifex Relay

Hay Nankôre sikorôsno ras. Pahi ha tahitáh ne!

Here are the Nankôre words. Good fortune to you! Anyar (talk) 04:02, 28 August 2018 (CEST)