User:Ceige/Manchu Grammar Overview
Intro
This guide is meant to give people with an interest in historical linguistics and conlanging an overview of the Manchu language. Manchu is the language that descended from earlier Jurchen; "Manchu" was sort of a rebranding for the Jurchen after they absorbed surrounding peoples.
Xibe is a daughter language of Early Modern Manchu, splitting off in 1764 thanks to a Qing military garrison.
Orthography
The Manchu script has a Proto-Sinaitic (and thus likely Egyptian, via grapheme borrowing + phonemic calquing) heritage along with the Roman, Greek, Hebrew, Arabian and Devanagari writing systems, amongst many others.
Specifically, the Manchu script's lineage is thus: Manchu < Mongolian < Old Uyghur < Sogdian < Syriac < Aramaic < Phoenician < Proto-Sinaitic < Egyptian Hieroglyphs.
The Old Uyghur script was used for Buddhist, Manichaean and Christian texts.
Phonology
Please refer to the Wikipedia Manchu Phonology section for the following notes.
Music
Here's some music to get a feel for the modern phonology as sung (note some contractions, e.g. tebufe na > /të:f nei/:
- Hargaxame Wecere Alin (Bilingual)
- Arki Ucun - probably as close as you can get to a Manchurian tavern diddly, very catchy
- Xongkoro - I have no idea what's happening here but it's fun
- Saisa gabtara ucun(the song of archery) - Manchu trad/classic rock, slow but has a nice surprise towards the end.
Consonants
- Fortis-lenis distinction ala Mandarin, English
- Apparently a historic ts ~ s alternation
- coda /r/ can sometimes be followed by an epenthetic duplicate of the vowel before it.
- Most f are seemingly derived from *p, with remaining p's from onomatopoeia, ideophones and loans. Cf. Japanese, Arabic.
Vowels
- e = schwa-ish sound ala Mandarin but considered "front"
- ū/v/ü = probably some sort of central u sound, but in Xibe this has supposedly merged with u.
Phonactics in general
- Manchu phonology has more or less followed a cycle of contracting open syllables to produce CVC syllables, before simplifying the inevitable internal CC clusters, and then repeating that process.
- -n is the one reoccurring coda consonant (ala Japanese).
- Wikipedia mentions abtara-mbi as an example of this sort of simplification, resulting in atara-mbi; however, even -mbi appears to be a combination of -mV* and -bi *(frequent verb nominaliser in the Altaic language area, cf. Korean, Japanese; even the Uralic and IE families like -mV as a nominaliser).
Grammar
Noun cases
Manchu primarily marks noun case via a series of clitics/suffixes (that's a debate for another time).
Here the core Manchu noun cases will be covered, with comparison to other languages with similar noun cases, for mnemonic effect and to stimulate the inner lumper in all of us (the reader should not take this as defacto evidence of a genetic relationship). See Wikipedia for examples of cases in glossed sentences.
| Case | Form | Xibe Equivalent | Comparisons & Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nominative | Ø | Ø | |
| Accusative | be, or Ø - be has ~definiteness | -f/və | Cf. Japanese -he, -wo; note -he could conceivably have Chinese origins too |
| Genetive | i, or ni | i | I need to confirm what possible the difference in usage is |
| Dative-locative | de | də, -t | cf. Turkic, Mongolic, Japanese; Xibe can get away with -t even after -n, e.g. ɢazn-t |
| Ablative | ci | dəri | cf. Partitive in Uralic (can be used in comparison, see Wikipedia examples) |
| Lative | - | ći | Note correlation between Manchurian Initiative and Xibe Ablative |
| Instrumental-Sociative | - | maq | ~ with |
In addition, there is a series of less used cases:
| Case | Form | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Initiative | deri | Starting point of an action |
| Terminative | tala, tele, tolo | End point of an action |
| Indefinite allative | si | "to somewhere around X" - allative, but when you don't know precisely where you'll end up relative to the goal of your movement. |
| Indefinite locative | la, le, lo | "at somewhere around X" |
| Indefinite ablative | tin | "from X or somewhere like that" |
| Distributive | dari | every one of something |
| Formal | gese | as, like, in the form of |
| Identical | ali, eli, oli | same as X, from adali "same" |
| Orientative | ru | facing/towards something, not actually moving |
| Revertive | ca, ce, co | backward/against something |
| Translative | ri | change in quality/form |
Nominalisers
Derivational Suffixes
- Adjective forming -ngga/-ngge/-nggo
Verbs
- -mbi is used for the present. It is seemingly descended from a combination of a gerund ending with a copula/existential verb, e.g. -mV-bi
Vocabulary
For a more extensive list of words (446 apparently): Wikibooks: Manchu/Vocab
- ama, eme = father, mother
- akū = COP.NEG
- boo = house
- bu = give
- dahame = about
- dzengse = orange (Manchu loan)
- ejen = master
- encu = other
- ere = this
- erin = time
- fe = old
- fulu = better??
- haha, hehe = man, woman
- han = khan
- jui = child
- kooli = regulations
- ningge = nominaliser
- niyalma = man
- oyonggo important
- ši/si = PLU
- tua (tuwa) = consider
- tuci = go away
- weile = build
- yabu = act