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==Real world development==
==Real world development==
Around June 2013, a Germanic conlang with a naïve interpretation of French sound changes applied to it was sketched up and called ''Jaillais'' (located currently on [https://sites.google.com/site/lairezjaillais/ Google Sites])
Around June 2013, a Germanic conlang with a naïve interpretation of French sound changes applied to it was sketched up and called ''Jaillais'' (located currently on [https://sites.google.com/site/lairezjaillais/ Google Sites]). Later on, resources on [[w:Phonological_history_of_French | the Phonological history of French]], [[w:History_of_the_Spanish_language | the History of the Spanish language]] and [[w:History_of_Romanian | the History of Romanian]] (amongst many others) were encountered, highlighting some of the deficiencies of Jaillais.
 
For a while, no further development on Jaillais was made, but casual sketches with both more and less authentic Romance sound changes applied to the Germanic languages were made over the years. In the end, Spanish-inspired sound changes won out, as, next to French, Spanish has some of the stranger sound changes in the Romance language family, making it easier to obscure the original Proto-Germanic roots.
 
Over time, other conlangers developed better fleshed-out French-inspired mixed Romance-Germanic conlangs, and so Jaillais has been left unfinished to avoid crowding that creative space.
 
In December 2019, 6 and a half years after Jaillais, an absurdist, untranslated text was left in a conlanging group on Facebook with the intent of it being deciphered; this text demonstrated an earlier stage of Ceuja.
 
==History of sound changes==


==Historical Phonology==


==Phonology==
==Phonology==

Revision as of 07:36, 5 January 2019

Ceutch language
Léban Goceuja, Ceuja
Pronunciation[/ˈleβan goˈθeuxa, ˈθeuxa/]
Created byCeige
Indo-European
Early forms
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Ceuja, or the Ceutch language, (also known as Thutch; Léban Goceuja and Ceuja in Ceuja itself) is a Germanic language best characterised as Proto-Germanic with Spanish sound changes (via relevant Western Romance and Iberian sound changes) applied.

Name

The name Ceuja comes from Proto-Germanic *þiudiskaz, and is thus cognate to Deutsch, the endonym of the German language. It is often elongated to Goceuja, related to the rare translation of Gothia in Gothic, 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌸𐌹𐌿𐌳𐌰 (gutþiuda). The association of Ceuja with the Goths does not necessarily refer to actual historical Goths so much as the medieval label given to Germanic peoples in general.

Real world development

Around June 2013, a Germanic conlang with a naïve interpretation of French sound changes applied to it was sketched up and called Jaillais (located currently on Google Sites). Later on, resources on the Phonological history of French, the History of the Spanish language and the History of Romanian (amongst many others) were encountered, highlighting some of the deficiencies of Jaillais.

For a while, no further development on Jaillais was made, but casual sketches with both more and less authentic Romance sound changes applied to the Germanic languages were made over the years. In the end, Spanish-inspired sound changes won out, as, next to French, Spanish has some of the stranger sound changes in the Romance language family, making it easier to obscure the original Proto-Germanic roots.

Over time, other conlangers developed better fleshed-out French-inspired mixed Romance-Germanic conlangs, and so Jaillais has been left unfinished to avoid crowding that creative space.

In December 2019, 6 and a half years after Jaillais, an absurdist, untranslated text was left in a conlanging group on Facebook with the intent of it being deciphered; this text demonstrated an earlier stage of Ceuja.

History of sound changes

Phonology

The phonology of Ceuja is not unlike that of a somewhat artificial and sanitised form of European Spanish. For more context, see Spanish phonology on Wikipedia.

Debuccalisation

The main changes concern the voiced fricatives and /ʝ/.

In Modern Spanish dialects, the voiced fricatives are often pronounced debuccalised between vowels and other voiced sounds. In addition, ⟨y ~ ll⟩ (from *j and *lj respectively, now /ʝ/) is pronounced more closed. In practice, this results in ⟨b, d, g, ll~y⟩ all having similar phonation.

In Ceuja, the voiced fricatives and ⟨y ~ ll⟩ are all generally pronounced as actual voiced fricatives in the medial position. More debuccalised pronunciations are allowed, but not considered necessary for sounding "native".

Phonemes Cueja initially Ceuja medially Ceuja devoiced Spanish equivalents
b b β f b β̞ ɸ̞
d ð θ d̪ ð̞ θ̞
g g ɣ x g ɣ̞ x̞
y, ll (d)ʒ ʒ ʃ ɟʝ ʝ̞ *ç̞

This trend against debuccalisation can be seen in the treatment of fricatives before plosives, with many modern Spanish dialects debuccalising these fricatives to a breathy sound, something not as common in Ceuja (but still acceptable).


Grammar