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= Bantu Bants =
== Convenient Consonant Mappings ==
== Convenient Consonant Mappings ==
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== Cool Phonological Laws ==
== Cool Phonological Laws ==
=== Both ===
* CV except for prenasalised consonants
* Both are bitonic
=== Bantu ===
* Prenasalised voiceless plosives are rarer than voiced
* Prenasalised consonants can appear at the start of an utterance.
=== Japonic ===
=== Japonic ===
''Sources include: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Japanese#Restrictions WP:Old Japanese#Restrictions]''
''Sources include: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Japanese#Restrictions WP:Old Japanese#Restrictions]''
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* "A bare vowel does not occur except for word-initially: vowel sequences were not permitted." (WP 2018)
* "A bare vowel does not occur except for word-initially: vowel sequences were not permitted." (WP 2018)
* "Arisaka's Law states that -o2 is generally not found in the same morpheme as -a, -o1 or -u." (WP 2018)
* "Arisaka's Law states that -o2 is generally not found in the same morpheme as -a, -o1 or -u." (WP 2018)
* Also Japanese vowel devoicing (especially for closed vowels /i/ and /u/)
* Japanese vowel devoicing (especially for closed vowels /i/ and /u/)
* Rendaku & Lyman's law, which prevents more than one voiced obstruent per morpheme (but not in the compound as a whole). <!-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku -->

Revision as of 09:02, 8 January 2018

Bantu Bants

Convenient Consonant Mappings

Bantu Japonic
Grapheme Phoneme Grapheme Phoneme
m m m m
p p p p
b β w ɰᵝ
n n n n
t t t t
d d~l r ɺ
ɲ ɲ n n
c c s s
j j j j
k k k k
g ɣ

Less Convenient Vowel Mappings

Bantu Japonic
Vowel Allophone Vowel Descendant
i i i, ui, ǝi i, i₂
ɪ e ai, ǝi e₂
e ɛ ia, iǝ e₁
a a a a
u u u u (ɯᵝ ?)
ʊ o ǝ o₂
o ɔ ua, uǝ o₁

Cool Phonological Laws

Both

  • CV except for prenasalised consonants
  • Both are bitonic

Bantu

  • Prenasalised voiceless plosives are rarer than voiced
  • Prenasalised consonants can appear at the start of an utterance.

Japonic

Sources include: WP:Old Japanese#Restrictions

  • "Words do not begin with r or the voiced plosives b, d, z and g, with the exception of a few loanwords." (WP 2018)
  • "A bare vowel does not occur except for word-initially: vowel sequences were not permitted." (WP 2018)
  • "Arisaka's Law states that -o2 is generally not found in the same morpheme as -a, -o1 or -u." (WP 2018)
  • Japanese vowel devoicing (especially for closed vowels /i/ and /u/)
  • Rendaku & Lyman's law, which prevents more than one voiced obstruent per morpheme (but not in the compound as a whole).